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CatoCooper13 · 09-30-2003, 06:14 PM

I agree with you, Peachy Lady -- when I first got out of high school, I had the assistance of a VR and a deaf facility that assisted deaf people to learn how to put together a resume, looking for a job and how to approach the company with our applications and in interviews as well.

Oddball · 09-30-2003, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peachy Lady

Because of "Ticket to Work", we need to have more Employment Service for the Deaf, several in each states, depending on the number of deafies living there, so that they can help deaf learn how to fill out job application, job interview properly, dress up properly for job interview, look for jobs in the ads, internet, word of the mouth, learn how to get along with hearies at work, teach the hearies how to communicate with deaf at work, how to get promoted, etc. Employment Coordinator can be an advocate for companies to hire deaf employees. Also need a deaf person to be job coach to train a new deaf employee to work in new job until get used to new job. We do need that program everywhere. I used to be Vocational Skills Specialist for the Deaf and I am deaf myself. The deaf employees really benefitted from my training them and some of them remained in their jobs to this day.

Most of Deaf people need jobs and get off on SSI because they do want to be productive and gain self esteem. I have no against Deaf people with SSI incomes for specific various reasons (ex. lay off, economic changes, medical issues, etc). For people with SSI have no reasons...then I am against it.

deafdyke · 10-01-2003, 01:56 AM

Oddball, I don't think ANYONE has issues with deafies and disies (to coin a term) who REALLY need SSI/Disabilty, receiving it. Even people WITHOUT disabilties can have severe difficulties with the whole healthcare system. I mean, did you know that a big part of the reason why Lasik surgery is so popular is NOT b/c people hate glasses that much? It's b/c they are sick of spending bazillions of dollahs on glasses.
Did you know that one of the biggest reasons for personal bankrupcy is b/c of health related reasons? Look at all the editorals in newspapers demanding that drug companies must lower their prices! I myself would NOT be on Disabilty if A) Zoloft was cheaper (on my parent's insurance it's a $20.00 co-pay, on Mediacid it's only $2.00) and B) if hearing aids were covered by insurance. Hearing aids aren't generally covered by insurance. Hearing aids represent a VERY significent drain on personal income b/c they are so expensive and b/c they need to be replaced every couple of years! (and that's with out of pocket money!)
However something does need to be done about the lazy ones.They may not be well educated but on the other hand they could become blue collar workers. I remember once I worked in a crouton factory for one night, but I made over a hundred dollahs for just that one night!
Maybe more Deaf schools should start Deaf/hoh postgrad employment programs on their campuses, sort of like the one at American School for the Deaf. Also, maybe something that might be a good idea would be a post-grad academic program, sort of like a bridge between high school and college for those who aren't ready for even commuinity college programs.

CatoCooper13 · 10-01-2003, 04:02 AM

My alumni school provides that -- has always for the past 15 years, I reckon. It was around my time and my sister went through that in 1990 -- we both haven't relied on SSI for long periods at all...been working just about since day 1 after completing high school and attending college as well.

Kalista · 10-01-2003, 08:14 AM

Each Social Security Office should have effective procedures for complying with these requirements, determining the method of communication the deaf person prefers, and procuring interpreter services.

To request an interpreter at a local Social Security office, contact that office directly. Deaf callers may also call 1-800-325-0778 (TTY) and ask for an appointment with an interpreter at a specific local office. The national operator will arrange the appointment through the local office. If a local office refuses to provide an interpreter when requested, the Social Security Administration Office for Civil Rights and Equal Opportunity will accept and investigate complaints against non-complying offices.

To file an official complaint of discrimination against a Social Security office that refuses to provide an interpreter, contact the Social Security Administration at 410-966-7507 V, or at the following address:

Social Security Administration
Office of the General Counsel
General Law Division
Room 617, Altmeyer Bldg
6410 Security Boulevard
Baltimore, MD 21235

Ask the SSA to send Form SSA-437 (Civil Rights Discrimination Complaint Form).

CatoCooper13 · 10-01-2003, 05:28 PM

Another reason I stay away from receiving SSI is because just about every time I applied (4 in total) for SSI -- they always haggled over how much I had earned and if I started working whilst still on SSI, I'd inform them, but they never moved their arses in reducing the payments or stopping it altogether for like a few months. Finally stopped then they demand money to be paid back as I was 'overpaid'.

Another thing - everytime I booked an appointment, I always asked for an interpreter to be booked as well...then show up at the appointed time - NO INTERPRETER. I always cancel and tell them they should have an interpreter there, they always refused.

10-01-2003, 08:42 PM

I don't think giving Deaf people "pity jobs" will solve the discrimination problem.

That's also great for Deafies who can work, but it is a big problem for those who stay at home and do nothing. If being Deaf is no longer an option to consider as disability, they'll claim disabilty on their own fat ass, "I can't work because I gained too much fat sitting at home and getting free SSI! If I have to work now, it's gonna hurt my ass and it'll break!! *sob* *sob*"!!!

It's also a downfall because there are Deaf people who need SSA benefits. Hearing people STILL discriminate the Deaf. If the Deaf are forced to use "Tickets to Work", then hearing people will take advantage of this as "cheap labor" or "pity jobs". If you do not know what "cheap labor" or "pity jobs" mean, it mean that most of the Deaf will be hired as janitors, cashiers for big corps, cleaners, stockers, sweepers, courtesy clerks, and most low-end, menial, minimum wage positions. Oh, yay!! The employers are given a tax break or credit for having a Deaf employee.

Hmm, what a dilemma! Option One: stay home, have a boring life and get fat with SSA benefits. Option Two: Get a "ticket to Work" job, lose your dignity working as a human being with a low paying, menial job that no one else would do it.

If you picked options one and two, this is the end result: "You are CHEAP."

There is another option, a third one. While you are getting help from VR and getting SSA benefits, you get off your ass, go to school and graduate from college/university with a decent degree. Then find a job. And you do it all before they cut your benefits.

End result: "You have respect and a way to make your own living without others pushing their rules on you."

I, for one, refuse to believe this "rumor" until I get a letter in the mail from SSA stating that it will definitely happen!!!

10-02-2003, 12:45 AM

Please note my other post at http://alldeaf.com/showthread.php?p=138266 ! Thanks!

wizard · 10-02-2003, 05:25 PM

WRAD FRAUD ALERT

This fraud alert concerns a person named Richard Roehm who is allegedly
operating an organization in Orange County, California USA.
Mr. Roehm has asserted to the deaf community in many email messages that
he is a "Member" of the California Governor's Committee on Employment
of
Disabled Persons. WRAD has contacted the Committee office in Sacramento,
California. Be advised that Richard Roehm is DEFINITELY NOT associated
with that Committee. HE IS LYING TO THE DEAF COMMUNITY. For further
information and confirmation, contact the California Governor's
Committee on Employment of People with Disabilities, 800 Capitol Mall,
Room 1022, MIC 41, PO Box 826880, Sacramento, CA 94280-0001; voice (916)
654-8055 or (800) 695-0350; fax: (916) 654-9821; TTY (916) 654-9820, and
ask for Pam Porteous. Or contact Ms. Porteous at her email address,
pporteou@edd.ca.gov .

Mr. Roehm has also been sending email messages telling the deaf
community that his agency "OCDAC" is an "Employment Network"
under the
new SSA Ticket to Work Plan. THIS IS NOT TRUE. HE IS LYING TO THE DEAF
COMMUNITY. For confifrmation of this lie, contact Donald Cook, one of
the Program Managers for the Ticket to Work Program that is being run by
Maximus, Inc. -- his voice number is (866)968-7842, extension 6720, or
email DonaldCook@maximus.com . Richard Roehm and "OCDAC" are NOT
involved with the SSA Ticket to Work program's Employment Network.

Mr. Roehm has also illegally obtained the email lists for WRAD and also
for the GLAD organization in Southern California and he may have other
mailing lists, too. He has been using those lists to frighten, scare,
mislead, deceive and defraud many people and organizations in the deaf
community for several years. He has criticized almost every organization
within the deaf community, including WRAD, GLAD, the NAD, the CAD, and
many WRAD and GLAD subsidiaries.

Mr. Roehm is also under indictment and in court proceedings for abusing
his former deaf and disabled wife, and he is alleged to have abused
and/or lied to many other deaf people, particularly deaf women.

Mr. Roehm is known to operate "OCDAC," "Deaf Advocacy Network,"
and
several other websites. Apparently, he has not worked at a regular job
in general society for many years, and he is spending most of his time
creating havoc, confusion, dissent, fears and fraud throughout the deaf
community on the worldwide Internet.

THE DEAF COMMUNITY IS CAUTIONED AND WARNED NOT TO LISTEN TO, BELIEVE, OR
COOPERATE WITH FRAUDULENT INDIVIDUALS OR FRAUDULENT ORGANIZATIONS.
__________________________________________________ ______________

WRAD FRAUD REPORT- ADDITIONAL INFO

Many people in the deaf community have commented to WRAD that there are
some people who have been working "under the table" and not reporting
their income to the Social Security Administration. There are
unfortunately also still some people who try to illegally "fake" being
deaf to get SSA benefits when they are not really eligible for those
benefits. These people who act illegally hurt BOTH the deaf community
AND the hearing taxpayers who are providing those government benefits to
deaf and disabled people.

If you know anyone who is acting illegally or fraudulently while
receiving SSI, SS Retirement, SSDI, and/or SSDAC government benefits
from the United States Social Security Administration, you can go to the
website at http://www.ssa.gov/oig/guidelin.htm and file a CONFIDENTIAL
report. You can also make a fraud report at any Social Security office.

Please MAKE SURE that you are telling the TRUTH if you make a fraud
report about anyone. But if someone is really acting illegally, then
their illegal actions should be reported to SSA. We all have a duty as
citizens to report illegal actions to the appropriate authorities.

CatoCooper13 · 10-02-2003, 06:33 PM

Ouch...good thing that was uncovered as soon as it was posted online. That guy had no right to do such an thing because it's ILLEGAL.

10-02-2003, 08:55 PM

I rest my case! Don't believe it until you see it STRAIGHT from SSA's mouth!

javapride · 10-02-2003, 09:59 PM

deaf reaper in the general discussion also did the same thing so im going to ask the mods to please merge it

thanks

Oddball · 10-03-2003, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deaf258

Please note my other post at http://alldeaf.com/showthread.php?p=138266 ! Thanks!

I hear you. Hearing people are showing FEAR coming to Deaf co workers. They are basically stupid, period.

Teekie · 10-19-2003, 10:56 AM

It's not easy for anyone who is deaf to get a job just like that so sometimes while they're still looking and applying, they have no choice but collect SSI for temporary until they finally get a job. I went to the SS office asking them about this "Ticket to work" and if it was true about SSI cutting down and will stop for those who gets income from the SS, they said no not true at all.. so I am not going to believe that at all since there was nothing in the media or news or a letter from the SS office saying about this. I remember getting an email 3 years ago that SSI will stop and all that. But that never happened, then last year I got this email, and now again.. IMO, it's just a hoax.

sweetgal154 · 10-19-2003, 04:14 PM

it's not true that we'll be forced to cut SSI and work immediately, but they do have "ticket to work" for people who can't find jobs and the SSA are willing to help out.

webexplorer · 10-28-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafdyke

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WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most of those taxes go to the MILITARY and CORPARATE (NOT social) welfare programs! Read some Michael Moore! Only a very tiny percentage of tax dollars go to things like education and social welfare programs. Besides...what's wrong with social welfare? Studies have shown that most people on welfare are on it temporarily. Most people use it to get through a rough spot in life.Only a small percentage abuse it. That's the same with Disabilty!!!!

deafdyke is definitely right about this issue. Some of our congresspeople have a dirty job by increasing their salary. I remember some articles about some congressmen are spending a lot of time outside and they never use their own money for their expensive vacations. It is not people's fault who receive their welfare payments.

Our hospitals are the biggest problem of all, and they still keep charging patients too much money. For example, a sheet blanket cost around 60 dollars a day, to watch a TV - charges maybe 80 dollars, a nurse gives you a pill at the hospital charge you four to six times higher than normal price. It is obvious that there is no protest to against our hospitals.

A congressman's wife receives approxiately $250,000 a year for her retirement. What more do you want to blame on welfare people? I cannot say more about it because it has not been changed especially hospital fees and congress people's dirty money. It would better off for you to focus on the hospital and the congress issues. For welfare issue, that's later. I am shamed that you guys are not thinking about that situation. Sighs.

Eve · 10-29-2003, 01:17 AM

*becoming the pasting queen is hard work*
THE TRUTH

Quote:

What is the Ticket to Work Program?

This new program increases choices for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) recipients in obtaining employment services, vocational rehabilitation services, and other support services. It also removes barriers that require people with disabilities to choose between health care coverage and work, and insures that more Americans with disabilities have the opportunity to participate in the workforce and lessen their dependence on public benefits.

A ticket is issued to eligible SSDI or SSI recipients. Recipients can then use their ticket to access employment, vocational rehabilitation, or other related services.

Who is Eligible for a Ticket?

Most Social Security and SSI recipients with disabilities will receive a ticket. Disability recipients who are between 18 and 64 will be eligible for a ticket except those who:

Are medically expected to improve and have not had their first continuing disability review (CDR);
Are SSI recipients and are not receiving benefits based on the adult standard;
and,
Are not receiving a federal benefit.

The selected recipients will automatically receive a ticket and a brochure in the mail explaining how the program will operate. The tickets will begin being mailed November 15, 2001 to eligible recipients whose social security number ends in a one.

Do Recipients Have to Participate in the Ticket To Work Program?

No, the ticket program is voluntary. Recipients do not have to participate. If recipients choose not to participate in the program, this decision will have no effect on their Social Security benefits. As always, the MRS will continue to provide vocational rehabilitation, employment support services, and all of our other services as we have in the past to eligible individuals regardless of whether they are a ticket recipient or not.

Who Provides the Services to the Recipients?

Recipients participating in the ticket program will receive employment services, vocational rehabilitation services, or other support services from organizations called Employment Networks. Employment Networks are private organizations or government agencies, including the Michigan Rehabilitation Services, which are approved by, and have agreed to work with the Social Security Administration in providing employment services to Ticket holders.

Is There a Time Limit for Using The Ticket?

No, not as long as the recipient is eligible to participate in the ticket program. Basically, recipients are eligible to participate in the ticket program as long as they are receiving a cash benefit from Social Security that is based on a disability. Under certain circumstances, recipients can put their ticket on hold and will still be able to participate in the program at a later date.

What will a Ticket look like?

The Ticket is a paper document that will have some personal information about the person receiving it and some general information about the Ticket Program. Click here to see a sample ticket.

How Do I Use My Ticket?

The letter that you receive with the "Ticket" will explain the process. The first step is to contact the Program Manager - Maximus at the number below. Maximus will provide more information on how to use the ticket and choose an Employment Network.

Will My Benefits Be Affected By Participation In The Ticket Program?

Working and receiving any income may have an effect on some or all of the benefits recipients receive. The Benefits Planning Assistance and Outreach program are available to work with whoever want to be employed. Recipients are encouraged to seek benefits counseling to learn how earned income may impact benefits. This is a critical factor in determining if the ticket program would be beneficial to you. To obtain benefits counseling, you contact a benefits planner in your area.

Who Is Managing the Ticket To Work Program?

Maximus, INC. is a private company that is working with SSA to help manage the Ticket to Work program. Maximus can answer questions about the Ticket to Work program and can provide the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of the Employment Networks in the recipient's area. You may contact Maximus at 1-866-968-7842 (1-866-833-2976 for TTY) or visit Maximus on the web.

http://www.yourtickettowork.com/ http://www.ssa.gov/work/Ticket/ticket_info.html http://cms.hhs.gov/twwiia/default.asp http://www.michigan.gov/mdcd/0,1607,...3992--,00.html

ooops almost forgot part of the TRUTH....

Quote:

President Clinton (not Bush) signed into law the "Ticket to Work and Work Incentives Improvement Act" on December 17, 1999. On December 28, 2001, the final regulations were released. Starting in February 2002, the Social Security Administration (SSA) began mailing "Tickets" to eligible SSI/SSDI recipients in thirteen "Phase 1" states.

Y · 11-17-2003, 08:38 PM

one of the best solutions: enforce every government agency
MUST have at least one deaf employee "with an authority in hiring"
so that way this deaf employee can encourage and
hire many more deafies.

I almost never see any deaf employees with "an authority in hiring".....
Sigh ....

Megladon · 11-17-2003, 09:36 PM

I have to say that if this is a real program, i fully support it. Now i just wish they'd do something for people that pump out a kid every 5 years so they can collect welfare and never have to work. If you can work, then damn it work. If you have a real problem where you cannot work, fine let the govt support you, but i dont want the money i earn going to some fuck that can work, but chooses not to because they can sit at home and collect money for finding a way around working. If i offend you, then you are some fuck, and i'm not sorry, get a job you fucking bum. To everyone that does work, or trys to work, with or without any disability, right on, keep up the good work.

DreamDeaf · 11-18-2003, 03:47 PM

Im trying not to be a smart azz, but I have been working since I was 8 years old - worked on my grandfather's farm and learned to drive when I was 11 - every summer after school I would take the Greyhound to western KS where I grew up and work from sunrise to sunset and sometimes longer and not come back to StL until at least a week before school started...and yeah, I sure had a lot of fun...swimming, rodeos, country fairs, dirt track car racing...all that...

So, yeah, it may not be easy to find a job, but I really don't have much sympathy for those who whine that they cant find a job when I can find them any time any place any day sitting on their asses watching soap operas day in, day out.

I have a friend that is severly deaf, and with poor reading/writing/speaking skills...he is VERY gainfully employed working in an assembly line factory in north StL City...so yeah I'm sure there are plenty of jobs...just gotta get off the couch and hit the streets.

Peachy Lady · 11-18-2003, 04:34 PM

Are MizzDeaf and FlyFree real sisters?????

DreamDeaf · 11-18-2003, 05:58 PM

No, I just call them my daughters. I "adopted" them IRL and online...cuz Ive known FlyFree when she was just shoulder high...and she still is. MizzDeaf - two summers ago, when we were carefree...lolz.

javapride · 11-18-2003, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamDeaf

No, I just call them my daughters. I "adopted" them IRL and online...cuz Ive known FlyFree when she was just shoulder high...and she still is. MizzDeaf - two summers ago, when we were carefree...lolz.

AND its the sweetest thing u ever did! heh I KNOW thats OFF the topic LOL just wanted to comment that it was sweet u adopted them!

Peachy Lady · 11-19-2003, 03:00 AM

I agree with JavaPride! It's really sweet of you to do that, DreamDeaf. Group hugging with JP and DD!

javapride · 11-19-2003, 03:42 AM

Eh thanks peachy! and now we're back to the t opic at hand LMAO!

09-30-2003, 06:14 PM	#31 (permalink)
CatoCooper13 Am attached and in LOVE! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sonoma County, California Posts: 6,418	I agree with you, Peachy Lady -- when I first got out of high school, I had the assistance of a VR and a deaf facility that assisted deaf people to learn how to put together a resume, looking for a job and how to approach the company with our applications and in interviews as well. __________________ Til I hold my bub in my arms.

10-01-2003, 04:02 AM	#34 (permalink)
CatoCooper13 Am attached and in LOVE! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sonoma County, California Posts: 6,418	My alumni school provides that -- has always for the past 15 years, I reckon. It was around my time and my sister went through that in 1990 -- we both haven't relied on SSI for long periods at all...been working just about since day 1 after completing high school and attending college as well. __________________ Til I hold my bub in my arms.

10-01-2003, 08:14 AM	#35 (permalink)
Kalista Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 7,475	Each Social Security Office should have effective procedures for complying with these requirements, determining the method of communication the deaf person prefers, and procuring interpreter services. To request an interpreter at a local Social Security office, contact that office directly. Deaf callers may also call 1-800-325-0778 (TTY) and ask for an appointment with an interpreter at a specific local office. The national operator will arrange the appointment through the local office. If a local office refuses to provide an interpreter when requested, the Social Security Administration Office for Civil Rights and Equal Opportunity will accept and investigate complaints against non-complying offices. To file an official complaint of discrimination against a Social Security office that refuses to provide an interpreter, contact the Social Security Administration at 410-966-7507 V, or at the following address: Social Security Administration Office of the General Counsel General Law Division Room 617, Altmeyer Bldg 6410 Security Boulevard Baltimore, MD 21235 Ask the SSA to send Form SSA-437 (Civil Rights Discrimination Complaint Form). __________________

10-01-2003, 05:28 PM	#36 (permalink)
CatoCooper13 Am attached and in LOVE! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sonoma County, California Posts: 6,418	Another reason I stay away from receiving SSI is because just about every time I applied (4 in total) for SSI -- they always haggled over how much I had earned and if I started working whilst still on SSI, I'd inform them, but they never moved their arses in reducing the payments or stopping it altogether for like a few months. Finally stopped then they demand money to be paid back as I was 'overpaid'. Another thing - everytime I booked an appointment, I always asked for an interpreter to be booked as well...then show up at the appointed time - NO INTERPRETER. I always cancel and tell them they should have an interpreter there, they always refused. __________________ Til I hold my bub in my arms.

10-01-2003, 08:42 PM	#37 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	I don't think giving Deaf people "pity jobs" will solve the discrimination problem. That's also great for Deafies who can work, but it is a big problem for those who stay at home and do nothing. If being Deaf is no longer an option to consider as disability, they'll claim disabilty on their own fat ass, "I can't work because I gained too much fat sitting at home and getting free SSI! If I have to work now, it's gonna hurt my ass and it'll break!! sob sob"!!! It's also a downfall because there are Deaf people who need SSA benefits. Hearing people STILL discriminate the Deaf. If the Deaf are forced to use "Tickets to Work", then hearing people will take advantage of this as "cheap labor" or "pity jobs". If you do not know what "cheap labor" or "pity jobs" mean, it mean that most of the Deaf will be hired as janitors, cashiers for big corps, cleaners, stockers, sweepers, courtesy clerks, and most low-end, menial, minimum wage positions. Oh, yay!! The employers are given a tax break or credit for having a Deaf employee. Hmm, what a dilemma! Option One: stay home, have a boring life and get fat with SSA benefits. Option Two: Get a "ticket to Work" job, lose your dignity working as a human being with a low paying, menial job that no one else would do it. If you picked options one and two, this is the end result: "You are CHEAP." There is another option, a third one. While you are getting help from VR and getting SSA benefits, you get off your ass, go to school and graduate from college/university with a decent degree. Then find a job. And you do it all before they cut your benefits. End result: "You have respect and a way to make your own living without others pushing their rules on you." I, for one, refuse to believe this "rumor" until I get a letter in the mail from SSA stating that it will definitely happen!!! Last edited by Deaf258; 10-01-2003 at 09:26 PM.

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10-01-2003, 01:56 AM	#33 (permalink)
deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,685	Oddball, I don't think ANYONE has issues with deafies and disies (to coin a term) who REALLY need SSI/Disabilty, receiving it. Even people WITHOUT disabilties can have severe difficulties with the whole healthcare system. I mean, did you know that a big part of the reason why Lasik surgery is so popular is NOT b/c people hate glasses that much? It's b/c they are sick of spending bazillions of dollahs on glasses. Did you know that one of the biggest reasons for personal bankrupcy is b/c of health related reasons? Look at all the editorals in newspapers demanding that drug companies must lower their prices! I myself would NOT be on Disabilty if A) Zoloft was cheaper (on my parent's insurance it's a $20.00 co-pay, on Mediacid it's only $2.00) and B) if hearing aids were covered by insurance. Hearing aids aren't generally covered by insurance. Hearing aids represent a VERY significent drain on personal income b/c they are so expensive and b/c they need to be replaced every couple of years! (and that's with out of pocket money!) However something does need to be done about the lazy ones.They may not be well educated but on the other hand they could become blue collar workers. I remember once I worked in a crouton factory for one night, but I made over a hundred dollahs for just that one night! Maybe more Deaf schools should start Deaf/hoh postgrad employment programs on their campuses, sort of like the one at American School for the Deaf. Also, maybe something that might be a good idea would be a post-grad academic program, sort of like a bridge between high school and college for those who aren't ready for even commuinity college programs.

10-02-2003, 12:45 AM	#38 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	Please note my other post at http://alldeaf.com/showthread.php?p=138266 ! Thanks!

10-02-2003, 05:25 PM	#39 (permalink)
wizard supernatural power Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: N. California Posts: 154	WRAD FRAUD ALERT This fraud alert concerns a person named Richard Roehm who is allegedly operating an organization in Orange County, California USA. Mr. Roehm has asserted to the deaf community in many email messages that he is a "Member" of the California Governor's Committee on Employment of Disabled Persons. WRAD has contacted the Committee office in Sacramento, California. Be advised that Richard Roehm is DEFINITELY NOT associated with that Committee. HE IS LYING TO THE DEAF COMMUNITY. For further information and confirmation, contact the California Governor's Committee on Employment of People with Disabilities, 800 Capitol Mall, Room 1022, MIC 41, PO Box 826880, Sacramento, CA 94280-0001; voice (916) 654-8055 or (800) 695-0350; fax: (916) 654-9821; TTY (916) 654-9820, and ask for Pam Porteous. Or contact Ms. Porteous at her email address, pporteou@edd.ca.gov . Mr. Roehm has also been sending email messages telling the deaf community that his agency "OCDAC" is an "Employment Network" under the new SSA Ticket to Work Plan. THIS IS NOT TRUE. HE IS LYING TO THE DEAF COMMUNITY. For confifrmation of this lie, contact Donald Cook, one of the Program Managers for the Ticket to Work Program that is being run by Maximus, Inc. -- his voice number is (866)968-7842, extension 6720, or email DonaldCook@maximus.com . Richard Roehm and "OCDAC" are NOT involved with the SSA Ticket to Work program's Employment Network. Mr. Roehm has also illegally obtained the email lists for WRAD and also for the GLAD organization in Southern California and he may have other mailing lists, too. He has been using those lists to frighten, scare, mislead, deceive and defraud many people and organizations in the deaf community for several years. He has criticized almost every organization within the deaf community, including WRAD, GLAD, the NAD, the CAD, and many WRAD and GLAD subsidiaries. Mr. Roehm is also under indictment and in court proceedings for abusing his former deaf and disabled wife, and he is alleged to have abused and/or lied to many other deaf people, particularly deaf women. Mr. Roehm is known to operate "OCDAC," "Deaf Advocacy Network," and several other websites. Apparently, he has not worked at a regular job in general society for many years, and he is spending most of his time creating havoc, confusion, dissent, fears and fraud throughout the deaf community on the worldwide Internet. THE DEAF COMMUNITY IS CAUTIONED AND WARNED NOT TO LISTEN TO, BELIEVE, OR COOPERATE WITH FRAUDULENT INDIVIDUALS OR FRAUDULENT ORGANIZATIONS. __________________________________________________ ______________ WRAD FRAUD REPORT- ADDITIONAL INFO Many people in the deaf community have commented to WRAD that there are some people who have been working "under the table" and not reporting their income to the Social Security Administration. There are unfortunately also still some people who try to illegally "fake" being deaf to get SSA benefits when they are not really eligible for those benefits. These people who act illegally hurt BOTH the deaf community AND the hearing taxpayers who are providing those government benefits to deaf and disabled people. If you know anyone who is acting illegally or fraudulently while receiving SSI, SS Retirement, SSDI, and/or SSDAC government benefits from the United States Social Security Administration, you can go to the website at http://www.ssa.gov/oig/guidelin.htm and file a CONFIDENTIAL report. You can also make a fraud report at any Social Security office. Please MAKE SURE that you are telling the TRUTH if you make a fraud report about anyone. But if someone is really acting illegally, then their illegal actions should be reported to SSA. We all have a duty as citizens to report illegal actions to the appropriate authorities.

10-02-2003, 06:33 PM	#40 (permalink)
CatoCooper13 Am attached and in LOVE! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sonoma County, California Posts: 6,418	Ouch...good thing that was uncovered as soon as it was posted online. That guy had no right to do such an thing because it's ILLEGAL. __________________ Til I hold my bub in my arms.

10-02-2003, 08:55 PM	#41 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	I rest my case! Don't believe it until you see it STRAIGHT from SSA's mouth!

10-02-2003, 09:59 PM	#42 (permalink)
javapride Java's Big Island Life! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Posts: 6,509	deaf reaper in the general discussion also did the same thing so im going to ask the mods to please merge it thanks

10-19-2003, 10:56 AM	#44 (permalink)
Teekie ~Mommie Teekie~ Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,929	It's not easy for anyone who is deaf to get a job just like that so sometimes while they're still looking and applying, they have no choice but collect SSI for temporary until they finally get a job. I went to the SS office asking them about this "Ticket to work" and if it was true about SSI cutting down and will stop for those who gets income from the SS, they said no not true at all.. so I am not going to believe that at all since there was nothing in the media or news or a letter from the SS office saying about this. I remember getting an email 3 years ago that SSI will stop and all that. But that never happened, then last year I got this email, and now again.. IMO, it's just a hoax. __________________ Proud Momma to: ~Austin- 5/11/00 ~Kieran- 2/6/03 ~Sean- 9/23/04

10-19-2003, 04:14 PM	#45 (permalink)
sweetgal154 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 417	it's not true that we'll be forced to cut SSI and work immediately, but they do have "ticket to work" for people who can't find jobs and the SSA are willing to help out.

11-17-2003, 08:38 PM	#48 (permalink)
Y Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,113	one of the best solutions: enforce every government agency MUST have at least one deaf employee "with an authority in hiring" so that way this deaf employee can encourage and hire many more deafies. I almost never see any deaf employees with "an authority in hiring"..... Sigh .... __________________

11-17-2003, 09:36 PM	#49 (permalink)
Megladon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 343	I have to say that if this is a real program, i fully support it. Now i just wish they'd do something for people that pump out a kid every 5 years so they can collect welfare and never have to work. If you can work, then damn it work. If you have a real problem where you cannot work, fine let the govt support you, but i dont want the money i earn going to some fuck that can work, but chooses not to because they can sit at home and collect money for finding a way around working. If i offend you, then you are some fuck, and i'm not sorry, get a job you fucking bum. To everyone that does work, or trys to work, with or without any disability, right on, keep up the good work.

11-18-2003, 03:47 PM	#50 (permalink)
DreamDeaf Climbing the Walls Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In a messy studio Posts: 4,566	Im trying not to be a smart azz, but I have been working since I was 8 years old - worked on my grandfather's farm and learned to drive when I was 11 - every summer after school I would take the Greyhound to western KS where I grew up and work from sunrise to sunset and sometimes longer and not come back to StL until at least a week before school started...and yeah, I sure had a lot of fun...swimming, rodeos, country fairs, dirt track car racing...all that... So, yeah, it may not be easy to find a job, but I really don't have much sympathy for those who whine that they cant find a job when I can find them any time any place any day sitting on their asses watching soap operas day in, day out. I have a friend that is severly deaf, and with poor reading/writing/speaking skills...he is VERY gainfully employed working in an assembly line factory in north StL City...so yeah I'm sure there are plenty of jobs...just gotta get off the couch and hit the streets.

11-18-2003, 04:34 PM	#51 (permalink)
Peachy Lady Not from Georgia. Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,112	Are MizzDeaf and FlyFree real sisters?????

11-18-2003, 05:58 PM	#52 (permalink)
DreamDeaf Climbing the Walls Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In a messy studio Posts: 4,566	No, I just call them my daughters. I "adopted" them IRL and online...cuz Ive known FlyFree when she was just shoulder high...and she still is. MizzDeaf - two summers ago, when we were carefree...lolz.

11-19-2003, 03:00 AM	#54 (permalink)
Peachy Lady Not from Georgia. Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,112	I agree with JavaPride! It's really sweet of you to do that, DreamDeaf. Group hugging with JP and DD!

11-19-2003, 03:42 AM	#55 (permalink)
javapride Java's Big Island Life! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Posts: 6,509	Eh thanks peachy! and now we're back to the t opic at hand LMAO!