Do you support abortion as - Page 3

jillio · 05-19-2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

Yes.

I see. And suppose you had a beautiful baby girl who at the age of 14 was violently raped, and became pregnant as the result of thvat rape? You would force her to carry the pregnancy to term no matter how much psychological damage it caused?

Or suppose you have a beautiful daughter who is raped by her father, and she becomes pregnant as a result. It is determined that the child has genetic defects so severe that it will not survive the birth process. You would force her to endure 9 months of pregnancy just so she could give birth to a baby that dies during the process of giving birth?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 12:40 AM

[quote=Meggie2;982213]It is depend on what it is. C section would do fine.[/QUOTE

A C-section cannot always save the life of a pregnant woman or a fetus. What if simply being pregnant was a threat to the mother's life?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

But I can't control everyone. They are entitled to their opinions. I don't disagree about that. person can carry it before full term to perform c section even it have danger to mother but mother still survive.

That makes no sense, in light of the question.

Jiro · 05-19-2008, 12:47 AM

Meggie2 - are you a spammer bot sanctioned by Anti-Abortion organization?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

I do not support abortion. Yes i am pro choice and i can speak up for those fetuses. I am christian. Everyone entitle to their opinion.

Wait a minute. In post #27, I aked you this question:

So your answer would be "no, I don't support a woman's right to choose in any situation, including rape and incest." Is this correct?

In post #28, you replied:

Yes.

Now you are saying you are pro-choice. Which one is it? You don't support a woman's right to choose, or you do support a woman's right to choose? I'm confused by your answers.

jillio · 05-19-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

i am incline to agree

You can't agree with both sides of the issue. You are either pro-choice or you are not pro-choice. Which one is it?

KarissaMann05 · 05-19-2008, 12:54 AM

Jill, I think she's probably a spammer or bot.

EDIT: A spammer/bot may hack in her user, I guess? Who know?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Jill, I think she's probably a spammer or bot.

EDIT: A spammer/bot may hack in her user, I guess? Who know?

Thanks, KarissaMann! That explains a lot!

KarissaMann05 · 05-19-2008, 01:07 AM

Sure.

Jiro · 05-19-2008, 01:10 AM

The spammer bot is stuck in its logic loop. that explains the ambiguous answers, repeating "I am christian" and "i am incline to agree." silly defective robot

Cheri · 05-19-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

That makes no sense, in light of the question.

Leave her alone, Can't you tell she has a hard time understanding a question being asked? She just having a hard time explaining herself, If you read all her posts, You'll understand more about her.

Jiro · 05-19-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Leave her alone, Can't you tell she has a hard time understanding a question being asked? She just having a hard time explaining herself, If you read all her posts, You'll understand more about her.

really?

ouch... my apology, Meggie

Liza · 05-19-2008, 01:34 AM

I find it interesting when people assert their beliefs to be pro-life also assert a belief in the death penalty.

I believe in a woman's choice to have an abortion or not. I do admit that I get taken aback if I hear of somebody doing this regularly, like, for the 10th time.

There is such a thing as the next day pill to make sure the pregnancy doesn't take root, though. Effective within 3 days, I believe. Sooner the better, of course.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

OK.

I vote legal to save the life of the mother.

I vote illegal for all other reasons.

You can´t vote both but just one of two choices. Yes I know both choices have pro/cons but we have to vote one after study on many cons/pros on both choices before decision to be made.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

It is depend on what it is. C section would do fine.

No, C-Section is not alway save mother´s life.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

I dont vote because I don't support both of them.

How?

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2
I don't disagree about that. person can carry it before full term to perform c section even it have danger to mother but mother still survive.

Do you really beleive this?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

really?

ouch... my apology, Meggie

Nope. I think that you and KarissaMann were right the first time around.

jillio · 05-19-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Leave her alone, Can't you tell she has a hard time understanding a question being asked? She just having a hard time explaining herself, If you read all her posts, You'll understand more about her.

I did read all of her posts, in both this thread and others. And the reason that I as well as several others have asked for clarification, is because she is having a hard time explaining herself. If she were not having a hard time, we would not have found it necessary to ask for clarificaion.

But, since you seem to understand it all so well, why don't you clarify her position for all of us?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Liza

I find it interesting when people assert their beliefs to be pro-life also assert a belief in the death penalty.

I believe in a woman's choice to have an abortion or not. I do admit that I get taken aback if I hear of somebody doing this regularly, like, for the 10th time.

There is such a thing as the next day pill to make sure the pregnancy doesn't take root, though. Effective within 3 days, I believe. Sooner the better, of course.

One of the great contradictions of the "pro-life" platform.

Re: the morning after pill: effective up to 72 hours; recommended within 48 hours.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Okay. Do you support a fetus' life come first before mother's life, right?

Yes she is a full pro-lifer because she do not support to rid of fetus to save mother´s risk life and beleive that fetus´s life come first before mother´s risk life. She claim that C-Section is the one who can save mother´s risk life.

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As for my opinion, I rather to see women/girls saved from their risk healths first before a fetus' life.

Yes, me too. I rather to see mother´s life come first before fetus.

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I don't feel comfortable to support an abortion, I meant, if you are pro-choice.. you can't speak up for those poor fetuses. C A N N O T.

No, she is a true pro-lifer and respect everyone´s opinion over abortion issues. She do not involve their choice but her own interest. She decided to vote abortion as an illegal. Nobody can force her but her own decision. It like 2 choice with pros/cons before we make our decision which one, we should vote to.

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I'm always glad that I'm pro-life so I able speak up for them.

I respect your view when I see different as you over pro-life and pro-choice.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:52 AM

I interpreted Meggy2´s posts... Please correct me if I am mistake or not...

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie2

I do not support abortion. Yes i am pro choice and i can speak up for those fetuses. I am christian. Everyone entitle to their opinion.

Why you claim to be pro-choice since I read all of your posts and accept my knowledge that you are a pro-lifer?

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

I thought you are pro-life?

Yes I thought the same that she is a pro-lifer since I read all of her posts. I am waiting for her to reply why she claim to be pro-choice.

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For your information, I did ask pro-choice group in LJ and they told me it's not about fetus because no one (pro-choicers) speak up for unborn children. Only speak up and fight for women's rights, not fetuses. So, if you are pro-choice then you should not speak up for fetus but to speak up for each woman/girl. That's what I know.

Yes, that´s right because Government should not control women´s body. It´s women´s responsible to decide either they can raise a child alone or not because Government do not raise child.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wokamuka
Raising a child in a well-adjusted environment is a very, very challenging job. I have a tremendous amount of respect for good parents and the good people they give to the world.

Far be it from me to make decisions for other people. I respect other people in making the right decisions for themselves, the community, and the world. Far be it from me to assume that I know best for them, the community and the world.

If a person or persons cannot bring a child into the world, well-equiped with resources necessary for survival and sustenance, their decision not to have an abortion would be an affront to humanity. If you can't give a child what s/he needs, are you condemning it by making sure it is born? (Don't give me a bullcrap excuse that it's "somebody else's fault" or "will"!)

I am, politically, pro-choice. I would not endorse abortion as an option. "Where there is a will, there is a way." I will not force another person to follow my own politics/religion/beliefs. Instead, I'd channel my energy (against abortion) in making sure that alternative solutions are solid. As it stands, alternative solutions are embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting and the "safer" alternative is religious-based and, equally, embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting solutions.

Stop telling other people what to do!

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Originally Posted by jiro123

exactly. They may have decided to have a child... and then later in several months, there may be unforeseeable event that caused them to be unable to care for child financially. The baby is better off being aborted than born into unstable household that may result in divorce, financial difficulty, etc. Whatever the case, it is ultimately their (parents) or her choice to determine what's best for baby. Banning abortion is as cruel as exposing child to unstable environment where he/she may end up being a thug or may die before he/she reaches to adulthood life due to economical difficulty (starvation, poor health care, etc.).

Well said!!! It´s unfair to raise a child at poor environment because he/she doesn´t deserve it.

Liebling:-))) · 05-19-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Let me guess. You don't support abortion, instead with that, you support a woman's desicion. Right? If so, that would be a lot of make sense. I think?

Because I don't support both of them (illegal and legal) but I prefer to support a woman's desicion while I hope there is a way to save future people.

Let me explain what legal and illegal is about.

If you support a women´s decision with cons/pro which mean is a legal.

If you don´t support women´s decision with cons/pro which mean is an illegal.

I hope it makes sense?

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05-19-2008, 12:40 AM	#62 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,197	[quote=Meggie2;982213]It is depend on what it is. C section would do fine.[/QUOTE A C-section cannot always save the life of a pregnant woman or a fetus. What if simply being pregnant was a threat to the mother's life?

05-19-2008, 12:47 AM	#64 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 7,566	Meggie2 - are you a spammer bot sanctioned by Anti-Abortion organization?

05-19-2008, 01:10 AM	#70 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 7,566	The spammer bot is stuck in its logic loop. that explains the ambiguous answers, repeating "I am christian" and "i am incline to agree." silly defective robot

05-19-2008, 01:34 AM	#73 (permalink)
Liza Cranial protocologist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 4,189 Blog Entries: 2	I find it interesting when people assert their beliefs to be pro-life also assert a belief in the death penalty. I believe in a woman's choice to have an abortion or not. I do admit that I get taken aback if I hear of somebody doing this regularly, like, for the 10th time. There is such a thing as the next day pill to make sure the pregnancy doesn't take root, though. Effective within 3 days, I believe. Sooner the better, of course.