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Old 05-18-2008, 05:28 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I would like to add one more to your post... life threatening?

Meggie2, what about life threatening?
It is depend on what it is. C section would do fine.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I dont vote because I don't support both of them.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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It is depend on what it is. C section would do fine.
I don't get what you're saying here. You don't perform csections unless the woman is ready to deliver. Abortion wouldn't come into play in that case.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:35 PM   #34 (permalink)
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But I can't control everyone. They are entitled to their opinions. I don't disagree about that. person can carry it before full term to perform c section even it have danger to mother but mother still survive.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:42 PM   #35 (permalink)
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But I can't control everyone. They are entitled to their opinions. I don't disagree about that. person can carry it before full term to perform c section even it have danger to mother but mother still survive.

Do you mean, "But, I can't control everyone. They entitled to their opinions. I don't agree about abortion issue. Person can carry it before full term to perform c section, even it have a danger to mother but some mothers still able to survive."? Right?
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Yes.

Okay. Do you support a fetus' life come first before mother's life, right?

As for my opinion, I rather to see women/girls saved from their risk healths first before a fetus' life. I don't feel comfortable to support an abortion, I meant, if you are pro-choice.. you can't speak up for those poor fetuses. C A N N O T.

I'm always glad that I'm pro-life so I able speak up for them.
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I do not support abortion. Yes i am pro choice and i can speak up for those fetuses. I am christian. Everyone entitle to their opinion.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:14 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I do not support abortion. Yes i am pro choice and i can speak up for those fetuses. I am christian. Everyone entitle to their opinion.
I thought you are pro-life?

For your information, I did ask pro-choice group in LJ and they told me it's not about fetus because no one (pro-choicers) speak up for unborn children. Only speak up and fight for women's rights, not fetuses. So, if you are pro-choice then you should not speak up for fetus but to speak up for each woman/girl. That's what I know.
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I do not support abortion. Yes i am pro choice and i can speak up for those fetuses. I am christian. Everyone entitle to their opinion.
I'm not sure how's that possible. that's like saying you do not support private ownership of guns but you are pro-gun

so let me make sure I understand you - You say you do NOT support abortion... yet you are pro-choice.... meaning you support women's decisions to have abortions if they want. Please clarify
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:20 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm not sure how's that possible. that's like saying you do not support private ownership of guns but you are pro-gun

so let me make sure I understand you - You say you do NOT support abortion... yet you are pro-choice.... meaning you support women's decisions to have abortions if they want. Please clarify
Yeah.. what I thought...
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Raising a child in a well-adjusted environment is a very, very challenging job. I have a tremendous amount of respect for good parents and the good people they give to the world.

Far be it from me to make decisions for other people. I respect other people in making the right decisions for themselves, the community, and the world. Far be it from me to assume that I know best for them, the community and the world.

If a person or persons cannot bring a child into the world, well-equiped with resources necessary for survival and sustenance, their decision not to have an abortion would be an affront to humanity. If you can't give a child what s/he needs, are you condemning it by making sure it is born? (Don't give me a bullcrap excuse that it's "somebody else's fault" or "will"!)

I am, politically, pro-choice. I would not endorse abortion as an option. "Where there is a will, there is a way." I will not force another person to follow my own politics/religion/beliefs. Instead, I'd channel my energy (against abortion) in making sure that alternative solutions are solid. As it stands, alternative solutions are embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting and the "safer" alternative is religious-based and, equally, embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting solutions.

Stop telling other people what to do!
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Raising a child in a well-adjusted environment is a very, very challenging job. I have a tremendous amount of respect for good parents and the good people they give to the world.

Far be it from me to make decisions for other people. I respect other people in making the right decisions for themselves, the community, and the world. Far be it from me to assume that I know best for them, the community and the world.

If a person or persons cannot bring a child into the world, well-equiped with resources necessary for survival and sustenance, their decision not to have an abortion would be an affront to humanity. If you can't give a child what s/he needs, are you condemning it by making sure it is born? (Don't give me a bullcrap excuse that it's "somebody else's fault" or "will"!)

I am, politically, pro-choice. I would not endorse abortion as an option. "Where there is a will, there is a way." I will not force another person to follow my own politics/religion/beliefs. Instead, I'd channel my energy (against abortion) in making sure that alternative solutions are solid. As it stands, alternative solutions are embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting and the "safer" alternative is religious-based and, equally, embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting solutions.

Stop telling other people what to do!
exactly. They may have decided to have a child... and then later in several months, there may be unforeseeable event that caused them to be unable to care for child financially. The baby is better off being aborted than born into unstable household that may result in divorce, financial difficulty, etc. Whatever the case, it is ultimately their (parents) or her choice to determine what's best for baby. Banning abortion is as cruel as exposing child to unstable environment where he/she may end up being a thug or may die before he/she reaches to adulthood life due to economical difficulty (starvation, poor health care, etc.).
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Raising a child in a well-adjusted environment is a very, very challenging job. I have a tremendous amount of respect for good parents and the good people they give to the world.

Far be it from me to make decisions for other people. I respect other people in making the right decisions for themselves, the community, and the world. Far be it from me to assume that I know best for them, the community and the world.

If a person or persons cannot bring a child into the world, well-equiped with resources necessary for survival and sustenance, their decision not to have an abortion would be an affront to humanity. If you can't give a child what s/he needs, are you condemning it by making sure it is born? (Don't give me a bullcrap excuse that it's "somebody else's fault" or "will"!)

I am, politically, pro-choice. I would not endorse abortion as an option. "Where there is a will, there is a way." I will not force another person to follow my own politics/religion/beliefs. Instead, I'd channel my energy (against abortion) in making sure that alternative solutions are solid. As it stands, alternative solutions are embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting and the "safer" alternative is religious-based and, equally, embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting solutions.

Stop telling other people what to do!
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Raising a child in a well-adjusted environment is a very, very challenging job. I have a tremendous amount of respect for good parents and the good people they give to the world.

Far be it from me to make decisions for other people. I respect other people in making the right decisions for themselves, the community, and the world. Far be it from me to assume that I know best for them, the community and the world.

If a person or persons cannot bring a child into the world, well-equiped with resources necessary for survival and sustenance, their decision not to have an abortion would be an affront to humanity. If you can't give a child what s/he needs, are you condemning it by making sure it is born? (Don't give me a bullcrap excuse that it's "somebody else's fault" or "will"!)

I am, politically, pro-choice. I would not endorse abortion as an option. "Where there is a will, there is a way." I will not force another person to follow my own politics/religion/beliefs. Instead, I'd channel my energy (against abortion) in making sure that alternative solutions are solid. As it stands, alternative solutions are embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting and the "safer" alternative is religious-based and, equally, embarrassing, corrupted, and disgusting solutions.

Stop telling other people what to do!
Good post! You are entitled on your opinion as well.

But, I'm confused. I don't see anybody tell to do in here.

EDIT: I check all posts in here and I don't see anything else unless are you refering to pervious thread, arent you?
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I am here, interesting conversation.
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I am here, interesting conversation.
hi there. Can you clarify your position? We're still confused. You do not support abortion but you're pro-choice.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:02 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Instead, I'd channel my energy (against abortion) in making sure that alternative solutions are solid.
And, I love that quote! I'm heartily agreed with this.

When the rate of abortion get lower and lower while a various solution get improve and improve, it will save many future people and improve their qaulity of lives.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:05 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Let me guess. You don't support abortion, instead with that, you support a woman's desicion. Right? If so, that would be a lot of make sense. I think?

Because I don't support both of them (illegal and legal) but I prefer to support a woman's desicion while I hope there is a way to save future people.
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I am incline to agree with you.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:11 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:18 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I believe that every human being in the world including in wombs have to right to live. Do you know their heart was created first before others?
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:19 PM   #53 (permalink)
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We know that already.