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jillio · 06-02-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by UNIXIELHOST

Hello,

Sorry I have been busy lately with other projects. Since some of you asked what is the abortion site, you can check it at Welcome to myabortion (WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT) (Yes, it runs by a deaf man which is me)

Thank you and have a good day

The link you provided does not work.

Liebling:-))) · 06-02-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

The link you provided does not work.

Ditto

Maria · 06-02-2008, 11:45 AM

I am supporting life.

I am against abortion... but, if there's any " risk " involved, then a woman have the right to chose an abortion within the reason only. Adoption is another option, if a woman is not able to keep unborn child instead of killing this unborn child. There's many women out there who is motherless might want to adopt.

jillio · 06-02-2008, 12:56 PM

It finally let me onto your site, and I have to say that this is the biggest bunch of propoganda I've seen lately. The first article I saw regarding Colorado contained too manny assertions that can't be substantiated to count them. First off, there is absolutely no correlation between legalized abortion and incest. To imply that there is is an outright lie. Secondly, the fact that your site is supported by Operation Rescue, an organization that has taken part in the killing and maiming of doctors, nurses, and patients through their terrorist tactics of bombing abortion clinics and assaulting women attempting to enter those clinics shows exactly how hypocritical your site is. This is nothing more than fanaticism, pure and simple. The CBR claiming that the medical college is forcing "the mark of the Beast" on Christian doctors is pure absurdity.

Thank God there are still intelligent people out there who see through this form of self righteousness and have allowed Roe v Wade to stand since 1973.

And isn't it ironic, that you, as a man, who would never have to carry a child of incest or rape to term and give birth to it, who can walk away free from any preganancy at any time leaving the mother to care for the child on her own, should have the nerve to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body. Perhaps if the males in this world were all more concerned with what happens with those children after they were born, abortion would not be a viable option for women.

webexplorer · 06-02-2008, 01:24 PM

UNIXIELHOST - It is not proper for you to put your link this forum. It's not our business. The mothers make their own decision. Do not interfere them. I cannot tell them what to do. That's it.

Mod - I would appreciate it if you remove his link.

GarnetTigerMom · 06-02-2008, 01:26 PM

This is the most longest abortion topic on this site! wow... must be a pretty touch subject on the issue. But as long people respect each other post that good enough to keep it going. :-)

Liebling:-))) · 06-03-2008, 06:02 AM

28 million women face unwanted pregnancy

Study: 1 in 4 likely to get pregnant due to inconsistent contraceptive use

CHICAGO - Each year, half of American women who would rather not get pregnant will have an unplanned pregnancy, often because they failed to use their contraceptive properly or forgot to use it at all, U.S. researchers said on Tuesday.

As a result, 28 million women in the United States are at risk for an unintended pregnancy, according to the study conducted by the Guttmacher Institute in New York.

They found one in four women is very likely to become pregnant because of inconsistent contraception use.

Some of this gap is due to lack of access to health care, with many women saying they cannot afford some of the more effective methods of contraception such as birth control pills that require a doctor's visit and prescription.

"It is critical to have a better understanding of what is preventing women from using contraception consistently and correctly, or even at all," Dr. Jennifer Frost, a senior research associate at Guttmacher, said in statement.

Not satisfied with contraception
The research involved surveys of women and family planning providers nationwide. Among the results, they found that more than half of women who have a gap in contraceptive use of at least one month have experienced some type of major life event — such as the end of a relationship, a move, job change or personal crisis.

They also found that many women are not satisfied with their current method of contraception, a problem that can lead to missing birth control pills or failure to keep a condom handy, for example.

Last month the National Center for Health Statistics reported there were almost 6.4 million pregnancies in 2004, down 6 percent from 1990. Forty-five percent were to women who were not married, and there were 1.22 million abortions and 1.06 million stillbirths and miscarriages.

The researchers also found that many women who are lax about birth control are simply ambivalent about preventing a pregnancy and confessed that they would be very pleased if they found out they were pregnant.

The researchers said women who are the least motivated to avoid pregnancy are far less likely to use birth control pills, or any contraceptive method at all on a consistent basis.

They said a woman's attitude toward pregnancy, her satisfaction with her method and her experiences with gynecologists and other providers of contraception play a far bigger role in a woman's risk of pregnancy than other major risks, such as poor education and poverty.

Frost said doctors and other health providers should start by helping women to find the best contraceptive method for them.

"The more we can remove the remaining barriers to consistent use, the better we will be at ensuring that all women can avoid unwanted pregnancies and plan the children they want, when they want them," Frost said.

28 million women face unwanted pregnancy - Pregnancy - MSNBC.com

Oceanbreeze · 06-03-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

It finally let me onto your site, and I have to say that this is the biggest bunch of propoganda I've seen lately. The first article I saw regarding Colorado contained too manny assertions that can't be substantiated to count them. First off, there is absolutely no correlation between legalized abortion and incest. To imply that there is is an outright lie. Secondly, the fact that your site is supported by Operation Rescue, an organization that has taken part in the killing and maiming of doctors, nurses, and patients through their terrorist tactics of bombing abortion clinics and assaulting women attempting to enter those clinics shows exactly how hypocritical your site is. This is nothing more than fanaticism, pure and simple. The CBR claiming that the medical college is forcing "the mark of the Beast" on Christian doctors is pure absurdity.

Thank God there are still intelligent people out there who see through this form of self righteousness and have allowed Roe v Wade to stand since 1973.

And isn't it ironic, that you, as a man, who would never have to carry a child of incest or rape to term and give birth to it, who can walk away free from any preganancy at any time leaving the mother to care for the child on her own, should have the nerve to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body. Perhaps if the males in this world were all more concerned with what happens with those children after they were born, abortion would not be a viable option for women.

Agreed.

People who are affliated with organizations like Operation Rescue make me ill.

GarnetTigerMom · 06-03-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

28 million women face unwanted pregnancy

Study: 1 in 4 likely to get pregnant due to inconsistent contraceptive use

CHICAGO - Each year, half of American women who would rather not get pregnant will have an unplanned pregnancy, often because they failed to use their contraceptive properly or forgot to use it at all, U.S. researchers said on Tuesday.

As a result, 28 million women in the United States are at risk for an unintended pregnancy, according to the study conducted by the Guttmacher Institute in New York.

They found one in four women is very likely to become pregnant because of inconsistent contraception use.

Some of this gap is due to lack of access to health care, with many women saying they cannot afford some of the more effective methods of contraception such as birth control pills that require a doctor's visit and prescription.

"It is critical to have a better understanding of what is preventing women from using contraception consistently and correctly, or even at all," Dr. Jennifer Frost, a senior research associate at Guttmacher, said in statement.

Not satisfied with contraception
The research involved surveys of women and family planning providers nationwide. Among the results, they found that more than half of women who have a gap in contraceptive use of at least one month have experienced some type of major life event — such as the end of a relationship, a move, job change or personal crisis.

They also found that many women are not satisfied with their current method of contraception, a problem that can lead to missing birth control pills or failure to keep a condom handy, for example.

Last month the National Center for Health Statistics reported there were almost 6.4 million pregnancies in 2004, down 6 percent from 1990. Forty-five percent were to women who were not married, and there were 1.22 million abortions and 1.06 million stillbirths and miscarriages.

The researchers also found that many women who are lax about birth control are simply ambivalent about preventing a pregnancy and confessed that they would be very pleased if they found out they were pregnant.

The researchers said women who are the least motivated to avoid pregnancy are far less likely to use birth control pills, or any contraceptive method at all on a consistent basis.

They said a woman's attitude toward pregnancy, her satisfaction with her method and her experiences with gynecologists and other providers of contraception play a far bigger role in a woman's risk of pregnancy than other major risks, such as poor education and poverty.

Frost said doctors and other health providers should start by helping women to find the best contraceptive method for them.

"The more we can remove the remaining barriers to consistent use, the better we will be at ensuring that all women can avoid unwanted pregnancies and plan the children they want, when they want them," Frost said.

28 million women face unwanted pregnancy - Pregnancy - MSNBC.com

Yep you got that right some women do get pregnant even if they use birth control, not all birth control are 100% effective.

Liebling:-))) · 06-04-2008, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GarnetTigerMom

Yep you got that right some women do get pregnant even if they use birth control, not all birth control are 100% effective.

Exactly!!!

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 06-28-2008, 12:28 PM

I voted it's illegal. I am not support abortion! It's murder! If you are support abortion and you have no hearts about the babies in womb!

I don't want to see the picture of abortion babies. I have a heartbroken!

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 06-28-2008, 12:31 PM

I agree with you. If mother can't keep this baby and need to adopt. That's simple. Why they need to abortion?? That's not right! That's why I am not support abortion! This is heartless!

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Originally Posted by Maria

I am supporting life.

I am against abortion... but, if there's any " risk " involved, then a woman have the right to chose an abortion within the reason only. Adoption is another option, if a woman is not able to keep unborn child instead of killing this unborn child. There's many women out there who is motherless might want to adopt.

webexplorer · 06-28-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

I voted it's illegal. I am not support abortion! It's murder! If you are support abortion and you have no hearts about the babies in womb!

I don't want to see the picture of abortion babies. I have a heartbroken!

You have to understand that you have the right to do with your body to accept it or not. We cannot control other people's life. I rather to stay off and let their make their own decision. I know it is hard, but it is the best for us not cross their line.

~♥~Pinky~♥~ · 06-28-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

You have to understand that you have the right to do with your body to accept it or not. We cannot control other people's life. I rather to stay off and let their make their own decision. I know it is hard, but it is the best for us not cross their line.

I know that. It's not my business but I don't like abortion. Because it's murder. I would like to say about the religion but I don't want my post forward to religion thread. I don't judge on people. I love the children!!!! We are human and not need to murder to other human.

webexplorer · 06-28-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinky678

I know that. It's not my business but I don't like abortion. Because it's murder. I would like to say about the religion but I don't want my post forward to religion thread. I don't judge on people. I love the children!!!! We are human and not need to murder to other human.

I understand it respectively.

DURAY · 06-29-2008, 08:22 AM

I don't support abortion to remove fetus which are disabled (down's syndrome, deaf, etc). Philosophers like Peter Singer and many feminists, NOW and NARAL wants full abortion for any fetus with disability genes. Those highly educated women often do not have kids themselves and they don't understand. They trolled at Ivy league universities with their snobby attitude towards middle-lower class women. Few groups like Independent Women's Forum and Concerned Women for American often have experiences with kids with disabilities. Count on your hands the differences between Republicans and Democrats members of Congres from 1990 to now who has kids with special needs.

jillio · 06-29-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

You have to understand that you have the right to do with your body to accept it or not. We cannot control other people's life. I rather to stay off and let their make their own decision. I know it is hard, but it is the best for us not cross their line.

Exactly. If you want the right not to choose abortion,then you have to give others the right to make the decision for themselves, as well.

KarissaMann05 · 06-29-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

I don't support abortion to remove fetus which are disabled (down's syndrome, deaf, etc). Philosophers like Peter Singer and many feminists, NOW and NARAL wants full abortion for any fetus with disability genes. Those highly educated women often do not have kids themselves and they don't understand. They trolled at Ivy league universities with their snobby attitude towards middle-lower class women. Few groups like Independent Women's Forum and Concerned Women for American often have experiences with kids with disabilities. Count on your hands the differences between Republicans and Democrats members of Congres from 1990 to now who has kids with special needs.

Yeah... I'd noticed. I just don't understand those "intelligent" women...
That's why few of them told me that I don't suppose to be here because of my disability and "low intelligence" I have.

Funny, many "bright" women hate babies and children because of lack of experiences! Ahha...

Even one of them thought stupidity of people should to be aborted (espeically, people who have a poor quality of life), too. =/

:sighs:

Foxrac · 09-05-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

It is not just, because I was in my former state. I think, it is because, she did it a good job... a well good job. And, yes I am pro-life and I opposed abortion when it is given a life in a mother's womb on Day One once it conceived. A living cell products a life.

including rape and life threaten?

fredfam1 · 09-05-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

This question has been asked before and it seems no one has an answer to it.

In regards to Sarah Palin stance is that she is pro-life and pro-death penalty.

How can one be pro-life and pro-death penalty? You are still taking a life.

I would not be pro death penalty if we could actually keep dangerous offenders in prison forever and the victims didn't have to always go to parole hearings to keep the person in prison.

But I do understand how you can be pro life and pro death penalty. Pro lifers protect those who are innocent and too young yet to voice their desire to live. Pro death people are putting an end to the life of people already found guilty.
Life as well as liberty is supposed to be guaranteed to all.

fredfam1 · 09-05-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

including rape and life threaten?

If a pregnancy threatens a womans life the doctors are justified in taking that babies life. But it is still killing another human. If someone threatned my childs life I could and probably would kill them if I had no other way to stop them. I would probably require therapy but at least my child would be safe.

Maria · 09-05-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

This question has been asked before and it seems no one has an answer to it.

In regards to Sarah Palin stance is that she is pro-life and pro-death penalty.

How can one be pro-life and pro-death penalty? You are still taking a life.

Well, to be quite frank, in my perspective the way I see it, the unborn baby didn't do anything to do a crime while a criminal do a crime. How could a mother decide to remove an unborn baby from its mother's womb ? Why can't a mother just give a baby to the motherless couple who can not bear a child ? Or shall I say a barren woman ? There's another option a mother can do for its child, if a mother decide not to keep the child.

But, as for a criminal, that's ANOTHER story......

shel90 · 09-05-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Well, to be quite frank, in my perspective the way I see it, the unborn baby didn't do anything to do a crime while a criminal do a crime. How could a mother decide to remove an unborn baby from its mother's womb ? Why can't a mother just give a baby to the motherless couple who can not bear a child ? Or shall I say a barren woman ? There's another option a mother can do for its child, if a mother decide not to keep the child.

But, as for a criminal, that's ANOTHER story......

Because it is not that simple...

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06-02-2008, 12:56 PM	#364 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,197	It finally let me onto your site, and I have to say that this is the biggest bunch of propoganda I've seen lately. The first article I saw regarding Colorado contained too manny assertions that can't be substantiated to count them. First off, there is absolutely no correlation between legalized abortion and incest. To imply that there is is an outright lie. Secondly, the fact that your site is supported by Operation Rescue, an organization that has taken part in the killing and maiming of doctors, nurses, and patients through their terrorist tactics of bombing abortion clinics and assaulting women attempting to enter those clinics shows exactly how hypocritical your site is. This is nothing more than fanaticism, pure and simple. The CBR claiming that the medical college is forcing "the mark of the Beast" on Christian doctors is pure absurdity. Thank God there are still intelligent people out there who see through this form of self righteousness and have allowed Roe v Wade to stand since 1973. And isn't it ironic, that you, as a man, who would never have to carry a child of incest or rape to term and give birth to it, who can walk away free from any preganancy at any time leaving the mother to care for the child on her own, should have the nerve to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body. Perhaps if the males in this world were all more concerned with what happens with those children after they were born, abortion would not be a viable option for women. Last edited by jillio; 06-02-2008 at 01:17 PM.

06-02-2008, 01:26 PM	#366 (permalink)
GarnetTigerMom Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,900	This is the most longest abortion topic on this site! wow... must be a pretty touch subject on the issue. But as long people respect each other post that good enough to keep it going. :-) __________________ GarnetTigerMom "The rain may be falling hard outside, But your smile makes it all alright. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I know our friendship will never end." -- Robert Alan

06-03-2008, 06:02 AM	#367 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) My 3 darling princesses Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 27,054	28 million women face unwanted pregnancy Study: 1 in 4 likely to get pregnant due to inconsistent contraceptive use CHICAGO - Each year, half of American women who would rather not get pregnant will have an unplanned pregnancy, often because they failed to use their contraceptive properly or forgot to use it at all, U.S. researchers said on Tuesday. As a result, 28 million women in the United States are at risk for an unintended pregnancy, according to the study conducted by the Guttmacher Institute in New York. They found one in four women is very likely to become pregnant because of inconsistent contraception use. Some of this gap is due to lack of access to health care, with many women saying they cannot afford some of the more effective methods of contraception such as birth control pills that require a doctor's visit and prescription. "It is critical to have a better understanding of what is preventing women from using contraception consistently and correctly, or even at all," Dr. Jennifer Frost, a senior research associate at Guttmacher, said in statement. Not satisfied with contraception The research involved surveys of women and family planning providers nationwide. Among the results, they found that more than half of women who have a gap in contraceptive use of at least one month have experienced some type of major life event — such as the end of a relationship, a move, job change or personal crisis. They also found that many women are not satisfied with their current method of contraception, a problem that can lead to missing birth control pills or failure to keep a condom handy, for example. Last month the National Center for Health Statistics reported there were almost 6.4 million pregnancies in 2004, down 6 percent from 1990. Forty-five percent were to women who were not married, and there were 1.22 million abortions and 1.06 million stillbirths and miscarriages. The researchers also found that many women who are lax about birth control are simply ambivalent about preventing a pregnancy and confessed that they would be very pleased if they found out they were pregnant. The researchers said women who are the least motivated to avoid pregnancy are far less likely to use birth control pills, or any contraceptive method at all on a consistent basis. They said a woman's attitude toward pregnancy, her satisfaction with her method and her experiences with gynecologists and other providers of contraception play a far bigger role in a woman's risk of pregnancy than other major risks, such as poor education and poverty. Frost said doctors and other health providers should start by helping women to find the best contraceptive method for them. "The more we can remove the remaining barriers to consistent use, the better we will be at ensuring that all women can avoid unwanted pregnancies and plan the children they want, when they want them," Frost said. 28 million women face unwanted pregnancy - Pregnancy - MSNBC.com __________________

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06-02-2008, 11:45 AM	#363 (permalink)
Maria My love and I Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 8,762	I am supporting life. I am against abortion... but, if there's any " risk " involved, then a woman have the right to chose an abortion within the reason only. Adoption is another option, if a woman is not able to keep unborn child instead of killing this unborn child. There's many women out there who is motherless might want to adopt.

06-02-2008, 01:24 PM	#365 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,474	UNIXIELHOST - It is not proper for you to put your link this forum. It's not our business. The mothers make their own decision. Do not interfere them. I cannot tell them what to do. That's it. Mod - I would appreciate it if you remove his link.

06-29-2008, 08:22 AM	#376 (permalink)
DURAY Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 76	I don't support abortion to remove fetus which are disabled (down's syndrome, deaf, etc). Philosophers like Peter Singer and many feminists, NOW and NARAL wants full abortion for any fetus with disability genes. Those highly educated women often do not have kids themselves and they don't understand. They trolled at Ivy league universities with their snobby attitude towards middle-lower class women. Few groups like Independent Women's Forum and Concerned Women for American often have experiences with kids with disabilities. Count on your hands the differences between Republicans and Democrats members of Congres from 1990 to now who has kids with special needs.