Marijuana VS Alcohol debates - Page 5

SCBassist · 05-17-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepsi

On march 13,1986 My husband, myself and our children came to West Virginia.Do you want to know why? Well my husband lost his job in Baltimore because he got caught smoking pot,we was homeless and lost everything and went on welfare.

My point! Thanks for sharing that Pepsi!

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I understand what you are saying. You are talking about the social construction of the drug laws that create harm. If, for instance, a person was caught having a drink, there would be no consequences such as loosing a job. But being caught smoking weed results in more consequence that the act deserves.

Exactly.. It's not fair to fire people for using the marijuana while they allow heavy alcoholism to continue working.

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Originally Posted by Pacman

For me, I rather to consume alcohol over marijuana because of not want destroy my cells in brain, however just drink alcohol so lightly to moderately (depends on UAC) then it should be ok for adults.

I support on marijuana for medical only, also should be approved by doctor.

Well I prefer the marijuana because it didn't make me vomit, grumpy, foamy in the stomach, etc. Many people have different preferrance.

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Originally Posted by SCBassist

See above post, you have not learned about the long term effects of substance abuse. Again, I was talking about marijuana, so I am not concerned nor care about meth abuse.

Sorry for debating unnecessary about the meth, but I do use marijuana on and off, including the alcohol, also are smoker since I was 14 years old.

Cheri · 05-17-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Exactly.. It's not fair to fire people for using the marijuana while they allow heavy alcoholism to continue working.

I hope you're kidding about what's not fair in firing someone because one smoke marijuana on a job. Nobody is allow to drink alcohol on a job or use drugs. If a boss see a drunk coming to work, that person will be send home. It's dangerous to work while being under the influence of alcohol

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I hope you're kidding about what's not fair in firing someone because one smoke marijuana on a job. Nobody is allow to drink alcohol on a job or use drugs. If a boss see a drunk coming to work, that person will be send home. It's dangerous to work while being under the influence of alcohol

Maybe I misunderstand Pepsi's story, did her husband smoke the marijuana during the work?

Cheri · 05-17-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Maybe I misunderstand Pepsi's story, did her husband smoke the marijuana during the work?

Why would he be fired if he did not? She said he was caught smoking marijuana it sounds like he did smoked on the job. I've said that more than 3 times.

shel90 · 05-17-2008, 01:05 PM

Even if people are not smoking pot on the job, it is illegal and they can get fired from their jobs regardless. My husband would get fired if anyone smoked pot in our house even if he is not the one smoking it.

highlands · 05-17-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Maybe I misunderstand Pepsi's story, did her husband smoke the marijuana during the work?

why are you asking that .. you already know he got caught..

Cheri · 05-17-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Even if people are not smoking pot on the job, it is illegal and they can get fired from their jobs regardless. My husband would get fired if anyone smoked pot in our house even if he is not the one smoking it.

That doesn't sound right, a home is a private home. I've never ever heard anyone would get fired based on what they do outside of work. Employers do not "own" their employees. What they do in their personal life is their business not the employer's business.

shel90 · 05-17-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That doesn't sound right, a home is a private home. I've never ever heard anyone would get fired based on what they do outside of work. Employers do not "own" their employees. What they do in their personal life is their business not the employer's business.

Cuz it is breaking the law..I will have to ask him for more clarification. We used to have roommates and we suspected that they smoked weed and I told my hubby that it is their problem if they get caught and he said no, it is not just their problem but ours too, cuz we lived at that house (we rented a townhouse with another couple) and we are just as liable. That was when I learned of this policy at his work.

Jiro · 05-17-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That doesn't sound right, a home is a private home. I've never ever heard anyone would get fired based on what they do outside of work. Employers do not "own" their employees. What they do in their personal life is their business not the employer's business.

I think it's because of the smell. or just by breathing it via second-hand smoking... your piss drug test will show positive. I think???

Reba · 05-17-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That doesn't sound right, a home is a private home. I've never ever heard anyone would get fired based on what they do outside of work. Employers do not "own" their employees. What they do in their personal life is their business not the employer's business.

If the substance that a worker uses at home is still in the body and influencing reactions and behavior, then that becomes the business of the employer.

For example, suppose a bus driver gets high or buzzed at home an hour before he drives a school class on their field trip. He used the substance at home but it still effects his driving ability on the job.

Do you want your surgeon, dentist, or pilot hittin' the bottle or tokin' a joint or poppin' a pill right before going to work?

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Why would he be fired if he did not? She said he was caught smoking marijuana it sounds like he did smoked on the job. I've said that more than 3 times.

No, Pepsi only say that he was caught, that's it, not where.

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Originally Posted by highlands

why are you asking that .. you already know he got caught..

I don't know where he was caught, at work or at home, or friend's place, or any public area, where?

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That doesn't sound right, a home is a private home. I've never ever heard anyone would get fired based on what they do outside of work. Employers do not "own" their employees. What they do in their personal life is their business not the employer's business.

Exactly, that's my point.

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 01:26 PM

Pepsi,

Sorry for everything that making my commentary to your post messed up, but I am going to clear my commentary up to your husband's situation:

Fuck to those who screwed your family and youself's life based on the policies. I do felt sorry for your husband and your family's loss.

Cheri · 05-17-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

No, Pepsi only say that he was caught, that's it, not where

But, I said it 3 times while Pepsi was here, she did not say I was wrong. So, Let's wait until she reply.

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

But, I said it 3 times while Pepsi was here, she did not say I was wrong. So, Let's wait until she reply.

Allright

shel90 · 05-17-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

If the substance that a worker uses at home is still in the body and influencing reactions and behavior, then that becomes the business of the employer.

For example, suppose a bus driver gets high or buzzed at home an hour before he drives a school class on their field trip. He used the substance at home but it still effects his driving ability on the job.

Do you want your surgeon, dentist, or pilot hittin' the bottle or tokin' a joint or poppin' a pill right before going to work?

I was going to add that it makes sense cuz I can lose my job too if I was a pot user.

About the other people smoking pot in my home causing my husband losing his job is another issue that I am not sure why his job has that policy. Maybe cuz he works for the govt?

Cheri · 05-17-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

If the substance that a worker uses at home is still in the body and influencing reactions and behavior, then that becomes the business of the employer.

For example, suppose a bus driver gets high or buzzed at home an hour before he drives a school class on their field trip. He used the substance at home but it still effects his driving ability on the job.

Do you want your surgeon, dentist, or pilot hittin' the bottle or tokin' a joint or poppin' a pill right before going to work?

No of course not, now I get it, it all makes sense.

shel90 · 05-17-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

No of course not, now I get it, it all makes sense.

One question though and this is adressed to Reba as well...what's the difference between someone drinking a few bottles of beer on a weekend and someone smoking a joint on the same day knowing they wont go to work for another 2 days?

Reba, I undy while being intoxicated on the job is a big NO NO but my husband can lose his job if he smokes pot even if he is not going to work for a few days but wont lose his job if he drinks beer so I guess it is the fact that pot is illegal while alcohol is not.

Also, what about the fact that my husband can lose his job if other people smoke pot in our house? That I dont understand at all. I think it can apply to me as well because I am a teacher and all. I will have to check with my boss about that but I dont want her to wonder why I am asking her. LOL!

Hope I am making sense?

jillio · 05-17-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

Alcohol damages your dendrites.

I have a friend with dendrites. No, wait....that's dreadlocks! My bad.

jillio · 05-17-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That doesn't sound right, a home is a private home. I've never ever heard anyone would get fired based on what they do outside of work. Employers do not "own" their employees. What they do in their personal life is their business not the employer's business.

Why do you think companies do drug tests? If THC is found in your urine, you can loose your job. Doesn't matter where you smoked it.

jillio · 05-17-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I was going to add that it makes sense cuz I can lose my job too if I was a pot user.

About the other people smoking pot in my home causing my husband losing his job is another issue that I am not sure why his job has that policy. Maybe cuz he works for the govt?

Right. And it doesn't matter if it has been an hour since someone smoked, or 2 weeks. If the THC is in the urine, then they can loose their job, even though they never smoked on the job or came to work high.

Cheri · 05-17-2008, 01:49 PM

Shel-90

I think it is because marijuana is illegal and alcohol is not, as long they're not under the the influence of alcohol, one or two beers wouldn't hurt.

and yes it makes sense.

Jillio, not all jobs offer drug tests. My job did not, I've never had a drug test while working for any companies.

PuyoPiyo · 05-17-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

If the substance that a worker uses at home is still in the body and influencing reactions and behavior, then that becomes the business of the employer.

For example, suppose a bus driver gets high or buzzed at home an hour before he drives a school class on their field trip. He used the substance at home but it still effects his driving ability on the job.

Do you want your surgeon, dentist, or pilot hittin' the bottle or tokin' a joint or poppin' a pill right before going to work?

Yupp true, it's not ok to be drunk or high during the work or right before starting work, but if a worker, like Shel said, became high or drunk a long time before the work are personal use and it's nothing the elympoment can do.

jillio · 05-17-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Shel-90

I think it is because marijuana is illegal and alcohol is not, as long they're not under the the influence of alcohol, one or two beers wouldn't hurt.

and yes it makes sense.

Jillio, not all jobs offer drug tests. My job did not, I've never had a drug test while working for any companies.

No, all jobs don't m

05-17-2008, 01:05 PM	#126 (permalink)
shel90 Sun Whorshipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland Posts: 16,154 Blog Entries: 1	Even if people are not smoking pot on the job, it is illegal and they can get fired from their jobs regardless. My husband would get fired if anyone smoked pot in our house even if he is not the one smoking it. __________________ ~Shel~ "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child." -George Santayana

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PuyoPiyo My Property!! >:( Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 5,182	Pepsi, Sorry for everything that making my commentary to your post messed up, but I am going to clear my commentary up to your husband's situation: Fuck to those who screwed your family and youself's life based on the policies. I do felt sorry for your husband and your family's loss. __________________ Note: Not credit by myself.

05-17-2008, 01:49 PM	#143 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,074	Shel-90 I think it is because marijuana is illegal and alcohol is not, as long they're not under the the influence of alcohol, one or two beers wouldn't hurt. and yes it makes sense. Jillio, not all jobs offer drug tests. My job did not, I've never had a drug test while working for any companies. __________________

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