Marijuana VS Alcohol debates - Page 2

Cheri · 05-15-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gmcman1996

Wonder if you could match me, on this one... Try knocking back 24 cans of Busch beer, in 24 minutes... I done that... once.. Boy.. you gotta have lady fortitude to still be standing without falling down....

No, I cannot drink 24 cans in 24 minutes, and I don't plan on it either, I'm not a social drinker.

gmcman1996 · 05-15-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

No, I cannot drink 24 cans in 24 minutes, and I don't plan on it either, I'm not a social drinker.

Cheri...

That's all right.. I can handle this on my own.. Done it and been there... and sure I got proof of that... Sure... got them stacked up nicely... and still took the pix.. that night... 24 in 24... Me bad.....

Still I save aluminum cans.. and have a can crusher, mounted on my fence,.. and pack the crushed cans, to take to can recycling place once a month... and get money... Playing smart, and always staying smart... no matter whether I am drinking beer or not...

No wonder women like me cuz I am very advanced smart...

Liebling:-))) · 05-15-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gmcman1996

God made grass, Man made booze, Who do you trust?..

Your opinions are all welcome...

Simple answer:

It´s man who create drugs and alcohol out of plants and grapes.

It´s people who abuse drugs and alcohol, not drugs and alcohol itself.

Liebling:-))) · 05-15-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Alcohol kill people while marijuana haven't killed anyone so far... Hmmm.... (see my post in Marijuana thread on the 9th page)

Alcohol and drugs would kill you if you abuse them. Do it moderately then you will be okay.

I personally know the difference between drugs and alcohol because I withness what and how my sister had been through. The drugs make you paraniod and panic... but not alcohol. I only drink a glass of wine... relax... but drugs? If you smoke marijuana once then you get paraniod and panic... dizzy...

Liebling:-))) · 05-15-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

It's an interesting read, I was aware of this years ago. It is pretty obvious that the dangers of marijuana has been one big propaganda machine and a very effective one.

for provide the link... True...

PuyoPiyo · 05-15-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Alcohol and drugs would kill you if you abuse them. Do it moderately then you will be okay.

I personally know the difference between drugs and alcohol because I withness what and how my sister had been through. The drugs make you paraniod and panic... but not alcohol. I only drink a glass of wine... relax... but drugs? If you smoke marijuana once then you get paraniod and panic... dizzy...

Yupp I agree, it's not drug's fault for people to be abusive, car accident, etc, it was those people's doing with the drugs are the fault.

But... I disagree that the marijuana cause panic or paraonid, but ratherly stoned which are alittle of sleepy and daydreaming.

And yes I do it moderately

Cheri · 05-15-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

And yes I do it moderately

Are you admitting that you smoke marijuana?

PuyoPiyo · 05-15-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Are you admitting that you smoke marijuana?

I already said that I rare smoke the marijuana at other marijuana thread, what I meant by that is when I smoke it, I do it moderately.

Cheri · 05-15-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

I already said that I rare smoke the marijuana at other marijuana thread

I don't read all your posts.

jillio · 05-15-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I've seen people who smoked marijuana, I've seen their reaction, and their behavior. It wouldn't be illegal if marijuana doesn't effect the brain.

Its illegal as a result of the social creation of drug laws, not because it affects the brain. If that were the reason, then alcohol, nicotine, and numerous other substances would be illegal.

Your observations are not scientific proof. Scientific proof has yet to be obtained.

Reba · 05-15-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gmcman1996

True... but still man made booze, not God... Think about it for a minute... Man created moonshine... hence bootlegging, then the birth of NASCAR.... Duh!

...and man made weed into a joint. So?

If you're trying to develop a theological defense of mary jane use, I'm afraid you've missed the mark.

Reba · 05-15-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gmcman1996

...Wonder if you could match me, on this one... Try knocking back 24 cans of Busch beer, in 24 minutes... I done that... once.. Boy.. you gotta have lady fortitude to still be standing without falling down....

Now there's an achievement to be proud of.

Reba · 05-15-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gmcman1996

...No wonder women like me cuz I am very advanced smart...

dr benway · 05-15-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I've seen people who smoked marijuana, I've seen their reaction, and their behavior.

what kind of behavior did they exhibit?

when i m stoned, i basically just chill...whether at home or at a friends house...i usually watch tv, play video games, or read (yes, you can read while you are stoned)...i may even take on a project occasionally (right now, it is gardening and cooking)...yeah, it can make you act like an idiot, but that is part of what makes cannabis enjoyable (as long as you are not obnoxious)...

that is what most people do when they are stoned (the ones that i know of anyways)...they chill...

whats wrong with that?

yeah, you have potheads who do nothing but smoke 24/7...and you have people who were directly or indirectly affected by the actions of potheads...but that is not a good reason to keep it illegal...it costs society more to keep it illegal than to decriminalize/legalize it (war on drugs anyone??)...

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It wouldn't be illegal if marijuana doesn't effect the brain.

if that was true, then alcohol, video games, cigarettes, caffeine, processed food etc etc would be illegal...

its a lot more complicated than that...

dr benway · 05-15-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

But... I disagree that the marijuana cause panic or paraonid, but ratherly stoned which are alittle of sleepy and daydreaming.

cannabis do cause panic and paranoia sometimes...whether you get paranoid or not depends on the person and the environment...

i get paranoid sometimes esp when i am in an unfamiliar place or around unfamiliar people (i have been smoking on and off for almost ten years now, so this isnt something you can really prevent)...most of the time it is mild though, so it isnt that big of a deal...

i agree with the majority of your posts on the topic of cannabis, but please try to be accurate as possible when discussing cannabis and how it affects people...

when people pass on inaccurate information on cannabis to other people, it holds back the decriminalization/legalization cause...in my opinion, the only way to help the cause move forward is to be as honest as possible...

ok...time for a smoke session...

*puff puff* pass....

PuyoPiyo · 05-15-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dr benway

cannabis do cause panic and paranoia sometimes...whether you get paranoid or not depends on the person and the environment...

i get paranoid sometimes esp when i am in an unfamiliar place or around unfamiliar people (i have been smoking on and off for almost ten years now, so this isnt something you can really prevent)...most of the time it is mild though, so it isnt that big of a deal...

i agree with the majority of your posts on the topic of cannabis, but please try to be accurate as possible when discussing cannabis and how it affects people...

when people pass on inaccurate information on cannabis to other people, it holds back the decriminalization/legalization cause...in my opinion, the only way to help the cause move forward is to be as honest as possible...

ok...time for a smoke session...

*puff puff* pass....

I see, it's just that marijuana causing panic or paranoid are new thing to me, I never feel like that during being high from the marijuana.

Yeah I have been trying to make sure that people don't make wrong idea about the marijuana, that's why I was debating around here, by the way thanks for admiring my majority, also so do I amdire your posts

And thanks for passing

*passing back*

Byrdie714 · 05-15-2008, 06:37 PM

What about smoking pot and ........sex?

jillio · 05-15-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dr benway

cannabis do cause panic and paranoia sometimes...whether you get paranoid or not depends on the person and the environment...

i get paranoid sometimes esp when i am in an unfamiliar place or around unfamiliar people (i have been smoking on and off for almost ten years now, so this isnt something you can really prevent)...most of the time it is mild though, so it isnt that big of a deal...

i agree with the majority of your posts on the topic of cannabis, but please try to be accurate as possible when discussing cannabis and how it affects people...

when people pass on inaccurate information on cannabis to other people, it holds back the decriminalization/legalization cause...in my opinion, the only way to help the cause move forward is to be as honest as possible...

ok...time for a smoke session...

*puff puff* pass....

Chances are better that it doesn't actually cause the paranoia or panic, but exacerbates the panic or paranoia that are already present in the individual at the time they smoked. It does decrease inhibition, which would allow those things to become more evident.

Same thing with an angry person who consumes alcohol. They become less able to control their anger due to the disinhibitiing effects of the alcohol. But alcohiol, in general, decreases inhibition to a much greater degree than does marijuana.

Cowpuppy · 05-15-2008, 08:12 PM

Weed can cause paranoia when first using because is a deffernt feeling....accustomed to the feeling and it's mostly gone. Tolerance enables use without being way out there. People learn thier limits.

jillio · 05-15-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

What about smoking pot and ........sex?

Alcohol has a negative impact on sexual functioning, pot doesn't.

Byrdie714 · 05-15-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Alcohol has a negative impact on sexual functioning, pot doesn't.

Is that from experience?

dr benway · 05-15-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Chances are better that it doesn't actually cause the paranoia or panic, but exacerbates the panic or paranoia that are already present in the individual at the time they smoked. It does decrease inhibition, which would allow those things to become more evident.

Same thing with an angry person who consumes alcohol. They become less able to control their anger due to the disinhibitiing effects of the alcohol. But alcohiol, in general, decreases inhibition to a much greater degree than does marijuana.

yeah, you are right...i probably should have worded it a bit better...

jillio · 05-15-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Is that from experience?

I rarely drink, and never to intoxication. Don't like the after effects. But you can figure the rest out, LOL.

dr benway · 05-15-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

I see, it's just that marijuana causing panic or paranoid are new thing to me, I never feel like that during being high from the marijuana.

yeah, not everyone gets paranoid when they are high...it really depends on the person and the environment...

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Yeah I have been trying to make sure that people don't make wrong idea about the marijuana, that's why I was debating around here, by the way thanks for admiring my majority, also so do I admire your posts

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