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Every posting up to this point has been valid. I agree and disagree with the death penalty. When it comes to TX executing mentally retarded people, then I am against it. When serial rapists or murderers are caught and convicted WITH DNA evidence, I support it. As for child molesters (and in some cases, rapists), I think they should have a One Strike and You're Out rule. You're convicted of a serious sex crime, you're castrated. We can be creative in punishment. It can't always be "Hmmm, cable for life or a nice sleepy death?"
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I know that, but don't you think that maybe, just MAYBE, some kind of radical punishment may stop the crime, even if it isn't the focus, just the "tool." How many men would be willing to lose their parts (also, think about college parties, just some guy wanting to "score") if they went ahead with the crime?
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I don't. However, in the case of Saddamn Hussein, his court case went way too long. He shouldn't have received ten seconds worth of defense. I would have gone along with lethal injection for him, but not the way in which you would think.
Reba, I believe you had mentioned that you were in the military . . . what would happen if SH was injected with air in his blood stream instead of the lethal injection? Another thought . . . what about slowly draining his blood daily, say, a syringe's worth of blood on a daily basis? I would go along with this.
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For carrying out the death penalty in the USA, the methods used are not allowed to be "cruel and unusual" so I don't think your suggestion will fly. |
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I am very much against the death penalty for the reasons Jillo and others gave.
I wouldn't be against taking some luxuries away from prisoners though. I've been in a british prison as I used to go to this sports club for the disabled, which was run by a prison officer and the helpers were mainly prisoners. I mean they even had a trampoline in there. |
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Innocence and the Death Penalty
Innocence and the Death Penalty Executing innocent people http://www.religioustolerance.org/executg.htm |
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The Death Penalty
We have had numerous discussion on abortions.
Here is a thread to discuss your views on the death penalty. I ask that you please keep religion out of this topic. I know religion does have alot to do with how one views the death penalty. But as we have learned recently, religion is a topic that is highly charged. Lets limit our scopes to how one feels about the death penalty and why you think it is or isnt a good idea to have it. I will start, I am not quite sure how I believe in the death penalty. I do agree with the general idea of the death penalty. The general idea is that the worst of the worst will go for execution. People like Charles Manson, Jeffery Dahmer and many others like them really have no chance for rehabilitation. Their crimes were monsterous. Should we as the taxpayers, pay for them to live the rest of their natural lives behind bars? Should we pay for their three meals a day? *which many of us dont even eat because we cant afford it* She would pay for them to have electricity and heat and showers? I believe we shouldnt. If there is no chance that a person could be rehabilitated and their crimes were as atrocious as those mentioned above then, the death penalty applies. However, my one and only concern of the death penalty is putting an innocent person on death row. I would hate to think that even just one innocent person slipped through. How do we prevent this? I havent the foggiest clue. I do believe there are ways. But how to achieve them I dont know. So there is my views. Please discuss with respect. |
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There is already a thread about Death Penalty, Do you believe in Death Penalty?
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As I've said before, I'm against the death penalty because it is wrong to kill and sometimes innocent people are accused of murder just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
For people who really have done it though, I don't have a terrible lot of sympathy. In Britain I think that criminals get treated too well. They seem to have more rights then ordinary civilians. I've reciently heard that you no longer get a prison sentance for burgulary. Yet breaking into someones private space can be devistating for the victims. I mean people like to feel safe in their own homes but if that is violated and the people who do it just get a slap on the wrist, I think it is wrong. Prisoners should earn their keep and be made to work more to pay for councilling for their victims who are often left worse off. For some crimes I'd be all for the removal of a few body parts. |
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On the one hand.....when the death penalty exist....or any extreme punishment....it drives the perps to extremes. They know that in all likelyhood they will be caught...and extreme crimes pump the blood up and adrenaline, which gives them a hyper freaked paranoid edge. Life speeds up....decisions speed up. Shortly they come to the conclusion that they will be caught and caught soon so they might as well go all out.
Also, perps in action might think at the time that they would rather die than serve out a long life-sentence.....again, increasing the extreme actions. This scenario also creates the need-desire for them to try and destroy all evidence-witnesses. Once again increasing extreme actions. I'm not so sure death is a deterrent. Hyped perps don't care. Many criminals have oversized egos and think they can outsmart law. In a utopian world I might be against death....but until then....fry the bastards....they know the punishment beforehand. They gamble they lose. I only believe in it with clear solid evidence such as DNA backing up the evidence. I think the appeals system is too lenient. Too much time on death row when fully guilty. They can find thier forgiveness beyond. |
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Simple to say: Death penalty is so pointless.
It teaches you to learn how to hate a person who had done so wrongful. It teaches you to learn how to make a revenge against a person who had done so wrongful. It teaches you to learn how to show no mercy on any person who had done so wrongful. Like I said in #58 on my thread. Quote:
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Are lethal injections not cruel and unusual?
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I think lethal injections could be made to be more humane. With all the knowledge......put to sleep coma etc then the lethal stuffs. electric chair is stupid. Hanging cruel....but admit it is the one that would scare me straight...lol geeez choke me off but don't snap my wittle neck
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We abolished the capital punishment in Canada back in the mid-70s and the homicide rate steadily declined after that. It perked somewhere between 1970 and 1975 before the capital punishment was abolished.
Capital punishment has no effect on homicides and criminal activities. It doesn't deter anyone from breaking the law. Plus, there were quite a number of people who were wrongfully convicted and executed leading to the abolishment of the death punishment in Canada. |
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It reminds the victim's family that the killer still lives while their loved one is still dead. It allows the killer to relive the pleasure of his crime every day and night. It allows women to fall in love with murderers and even marry them in prison. It allows the killer (a la Charles Manson) to bask in the glow of publicity every time they come up for parole. It forces the victim's family to relive the agony every time the killer has an appeal or parole hearing. It causes victims, witnesses, and jurors to lie in fear that the killer will escape and come after them. Who cares about the victims and their families? All the tears seem to be for the rapists, murderers, kidnappers, and torturers. |
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