Iraq: Stay or Leave? - Page 2

Texan Guy · 03-06-2008, 01:02 PM

PowerON got some good points....

webexplorer · 03-06-2008, 01:49 PM

We should take our soldiers home. We send George and Dick there to take care of our country so that it would cut down some billions of dollars.

Our soldiers should be with their family and enjoy their time. It is more important that we need them to protect our country.

Osama Bin Laden wanted Bush to send our soldiers there because he won his goal. Bin Laden already has some plans for him - I really don't know what is his plans. Remember, George warned us on the news that there might be some terrorists in our country. How does he knows that? He censored the national news.

Byrdie714 · 03-06-2008, 07:29 PM

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BAGHDAD, Aug. 1 A suicide car bomber killed 28 people and injured at least 50 others Wednesday in a predominantly Shiite shopping district in Baghdad, officials said.

The Interior Ministry said the explosion left a 3-foot crater and badly damaged nine civilian vehicles, the Alalam Satellite TV network reported.

It happened in the Karrada district on the east side of the Tigris River, which has been relatively peaceful until the last 10 days, with Wednesday's attack being the sixth bombing, CNN said. On Monday of last week, four car bombings killed 16 people and last Thursday, another killed 25 others, the BBC reported.

Meanwhile, the U.S. military said in a statement coalition forces had detained 35 suspected terrorists during operations targeting al-Qaida in central and northern Iraq within the past two days.

"These terrorists cannot hide; we will seek them out," said U.S. Army Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, Multinational Force Iraq spokesman.

Copyright 2007 by UPI

Baghdad bomb kills 28, injures 50 : World

Many of you are saying we need to cut our losses and bring the troops home. Violence has been down until today's bombing attack killing innocent civilians by al-Qaeda.

It's unfortunate that the Iraqis are going through this with al-Qaeda but by staying with them and fighting al-Qaeda, we can eradicate them from their country.

Would you rather have this over there in Iraq or would you rather have this situation here on American soil?

Doug5 · 03-09-2008, 11:13 PM

leave but dont let it become overrun by Iran

PuyoPiyo · 03-11-2008, 03:26 AM

I am against the wars, sorry..

Byrdie714 · 03-11-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

I am against the wars, sorry..

And that is why Tibet isn't free.

doh · 03-12-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

And that is why Tibet isn't free.

"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

PuyoPiyo · 03-12-2008, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

And that is why Tibet isn't free.

Oh really? It would be much much better if wars NEVER EXISTED!

Liebling:-))) · 03-12-2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Oh really? It would be much much better if wars NEVER EXISTED!

Exactly

Reba · 03-12-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Oh really? It would be much much better if wars NEVER EXISTED!

I'm afraid that could only happen if people never existed.

PowerON · 03-12-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Oh really? It would be much much better if wars NEVER EXISTED!

if wars never exist in first place in dark age, then today would be already overcrowd on Earth, no land leave for us. And Warm Globe would be beyond than we imagine.

PuyoPiyo · 03-12-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I'm afraid that could only happen if people never existed.

Well not if we cooperate with each other, not being so selfish and disrespectfuly. For example, the relationship between US and UK, they was used to be hateful each other in the past, but now they are in pretty good relationship and never war with each other since. Other example, Germany. In the history, many of countries hate Germany big time, but today Germany have many countries that Germany have pretty good relationship with and doesn't war since.

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if wars never exist in first place in dark age, then today would be already overcrowd on Earth, no land leave for us. And Warm Globe would be beyond than we imagine.

You got it wrong... The wars cause much of global warming by causing pollution from bombing, shooting, many kinds of vechiles, planes, ships, destroying the lands, nuclear bomb, many things could rise the global warming.

Also don't you know that there are more people who died don't get involved with the wars than those who died from the wars.

PowerON · 03-12-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

You got it wrong... The wars cause much of global warming by causing pollution from bombing, shooting, many kinds of vechiles, planes, ships, destroying the lands, nuclear bomb, many things could rise the global warming.

Also don't you know that there are more people who died don't get involved with the wars than those who died from the wars.

more population, more poo, increase more cars, more airplane and eat landing become lost for animal, and more industry for people's need.

GarnetTigerMom · 03-12-2008, 09:49 AM

I do not quite comprehend the mentality of "because we started it we must fix it" that is exactly what Bush and Cheney wanted us to believe. No one has addressed the issue of employing the U.N. Everybody believes that America has to finish what they started. News flash!!! Maybe instead we get the U.N. involved in a PEACE mission. Let us discontinue the KILLING AND DESTRUCTION. The ploy to spend more money on Bush’s (vendetta) war or put more lives in harms way. Bush gone too far, I think 8 years is long enough.

MsGiglz · 03-12-2008, 09:52 AM

Bring them home and fix our desparated economy.. and stay in USA and protect famlies and our country..

Enough with Bush and his bull-crap spending.. we dont need oil and try to open our alaska's oil and gas.. its getting out of hand.. the economy in usa are horrible..

PowerON · 03-12-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GarnetTigerMom

I do not quite comprehend the mentality of "because we started it we must fix it" that is exactly what Bush and Cheney wanted us to believe. No one has addressed the issue of employing the U.N. Everybody believes that America has to finish what they started. News flash!!! Maybe instead we get the U.N. involved in a PEACE mission. Let us discontinue the KILLING AND DESTRUCTION. The ploy to spend more money on Bush’s (vendetta) war or put more lives in harms way. Bush gone too far, I think 8 years is long enough.

oh yeah? I believe myself that someone is behind Bush who is master puppet to control America. President of US mean nothing but an apprentice for the master of someone else.

webexplorer · 03-12-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

oh yeah? I believe myself that someone is behind Bush who is master puppet to control America. President of US mean nothing but an apprentice for the master of someone else.

Vice President is the master puppet.

PuyoPiyo · 03-12-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MsGiglz

Bring them home and fix our desparated economy.. and stay in USA and protect famlies and our country..

Enough with Bush and his bull-crap spending.. we dont need oil and try to open our alaska's oil and gas.. its getting out of hand.. the economy in usa are horrible..

*nods* That's exactly what I was looking for... A better life in America, not waring around the world...

PowerON · 03-12-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

Vice President is the master puppet.

huh-uh no! you are, I have prove until the guilt will tell!

GarnetTigerMom · 03-12-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

oh yeah? I believe myself that someone is behind Bush who is master puppet to control America. President of US mean nothing but an apprentice for the master of someone else.

Our economy has be soooooo screwed up by Bush, because today the high cost of living is gets worst when they raise so much prices on foods, clothes, houses, bills, gas and health care. Bush have already ruined economy very badly. I hope the next new president will pull up the economy to get it back on track.

PuyoPiyo · 03-12-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetTigerMom

Our economy has be soooooo screwed up by Bush, because today the high cost of living is gets worst when they raise so much prices on foods, clothes, houses, bills, gas and health care. Bush have already ruined economy very badly. I hope the next new president will pull up the economy to get it back on track.

Agree and I hope so too!

Tousi · 03-12-2008, 01:21 PM

We need to stay until Iraq is strong enough to stand on her own. If we leave too early, there are other groups in that region who have promised to help the different warring groups inside Iraq. The Iraqui Army and many of it's people want us to stay until they are capable of self-governance and the Army's strong.

Aren't we supposed to care about others? Aren't we supposed to care about others who are oppressed?

It is a mistake to allow your hatred (insert your own word) of President Bush to be stronger than your moral/social belief to help others.

It is just too easy AND hypocritical to blame President Bush.

Chase · 03-12-2008, 02:29 PM

What's the matter with you, Tousi? Which of those just agreeing with each other that the world would be better off if wars never existed do you hope to convince with reality and reason?

I remember the same empty words and oblivious nods from the absolutely clueless when troops were jerked out of Vietnam. It left dictators free to murder half the population, spreading to adjacent countries.

I think the smarmy line was, "What if they gave a war, and nobody came?"

A better rhetorical question then and now might be, "What if men, women, and children cry out to live free from tyranny, and we pretend to be deaf and run away?"

Tousi · 03-12-2008, 02:33 PM

Very good, Chasey and a good morning to you! How was the sea food at K's birthday dinner?

Chase · 03-12-2008, 03:20 PM

Terrific. Thanks for the good morning and excellent posts.

GarnetTigerMom · 03-12-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

We need to stay until Iraq is strong enough to stand on her own. If we leave too early, there are other groups in that region who have promised to help the different warring groups inside Iraq. The Iraqui Army and many of it's people want us to stay until they are capable of self-governance and the Army's strong.

Aren't we supposed to care about others? Aren't we supposed to care about others who are oppressed?

It is a mistake to allow your hatred (insert your own word) of President Bush to be stronger than your moral/social belief to help others.

It is just too easy AND hypocritical to blame President Bush.

I don't think is about "hatred" as you put it. This is about shedding enough "Blood spilling" with so much war and the killing should be stopped. As the way I see it in my words. Bush is pretty much to blame for most of the mess he had created. I don't hate him.. just disappointed he handle the situation. It fine that he protect american country, but it not fine to keep getting involved in other countries to create a war to gain control. So he has gone too far. Sorry, but to say that. But this is how I see Bush pushing it to far. I am sure lot of people felt suckered to voted him.

GarnetTigerMom · 03-12-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chase

What's the matter with you, Tousi? Which of those just agreeing with each other that the world would be better off if wars never existed do you hope to convince with reality and reason?

I remember the same empty words and oblivious nods from the absolutely clueless when troops were jerked out of Vietnam. It left dictators free to murder half the population, spreading to adjacent countries.

I think the smarmy line was, "What if they gave a war, and nobody came?"

A better rhetorical question then and now might be, "What if men, women, and children cry out to live free from tyranny, and we pretend to be deaf and run away?"

Ah, I remebered my dad fought in Vietnam. I had learned lot that it was a terrible time and so much saddness that happens over there and americans soilders. Most of them have not made it out alive, others were Pows and MIA's. I remember seeing some of my dad's friends and uncle names on the vietnam wall in D.C., was sad. But I am greatful that I still have my father and if he were killed over there I would not been born or grow up without a father. I have to say I thank GOD everyday that I got a father to grow up with him.

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03-06-2008, 01:02 PM	#31 (permalink)
Texan Guy IRELAND FOREVER! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,699	PowerON got some good points.... __________________ Vote Republican!

03-12-2008, 09:49 AM	#44 (permalink)
GarnetTigerMom Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,592	I do not quite comprehend the mentality of "because we started it we must fix it" that is exactly what Bush and Cheney wanted us to believe. No one has addressed the issue of employing the U.N. Everybody believes that America has to finish what they started. News flash!!! Maybe instead we get the U.N. involved in a PEACE mission. Let us discontinue the KILLING AND DESTRUCTION. The ploy to spend more money on Bush’s (vendetta) war or put more lives in harms way. Bush gone too far, I think 8 years is long enough. __________________ GarnetTigerMom "The rain may be falling hard outside, But your smile makes it all alright. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I know our friendship will never end." -- Robert Alan

03-12-2008, 09:52 AM	#45 (permalink)
MsGiglz Finally we are Mr & Mrs.. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: WVa Posts: 4,254	Bring them home and fix our desparated economy.. and stay in USA and protect famlies and our country.. Enough with Bush and his bull-crap spending.. we dont need oil and try to open our alaska's oil and gas.. its getting out of hand.. the economy in usa are horrible.. __________________

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03-06-2008, 01:49 PM	#32 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,366	We should take our soldiers home. We send George and Dick there to take care of our country so that it would cut down some billions of dollars. Our soldiers should be with their family and enjoy their time. It is more important that we need them to protect our country. Osama Bin Laden wanted Bush to send our soldiers there because he won his goal. Bin Laden already has some plans for him - I really don't know what is his plans. Remember, George warned us on the news that there might be some terrorists in our country. How does he knows that? He censored the national news.

03-09-2008, 11:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
Doug5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 227	leave but dont let it become overrun by Iran

03-11-2008, 03:26 AM	#35 (permalink)
PuyoPiyo slotting Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 4,825	I am against the wars, sorry..

03-12-2008, 01:21 PM	#52 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,541	We need to stay until Iraq is strong enough to stand on her own. If we leave too early, there are other groups in that region who have promised to help the different warring groups inside Iraq. The Iraqui Army and many of it's people want us to stay until they are capable of self-governance and the Army's strong. Aren't we supposed to care about others? Aren't we supposed to care about others who are oppressed? It is a mistake to allow your hatred (insert your own word) of President Bush to be stronger than your moral/social belief to help others. It is just too easy AND hypocritical to blame President Bush.

03-12-2008, 02:29 PM	#53 (permalink)
Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,316	What's the matter with you, Tousi? Which of those just agreeing with each other that the world would be better off if wars never existed do you hope to convince with reality and reason? I remember the same empty words and oblivious nods from the absolutely clueless when troops were jerked out of Vietnam. It left dictators free to murder half the population, spreading to adjacent countries. I think the smarmy line was, "What if they gave a war, and nobody came?" A better rhetorical question then and now might be, "What if men, women, and children cry out to live free from tyranny, and we pretend to be deaf and run away?"

03-12-2008, 02:33 PM	#54 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,541	Very good, Chasey and a good morning to you! How was the sea food at K's birthday dinner?

03-12-2008, 03:20 PM	#55 (permalink)
Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,316	Terrific. Thanks for the good morning and excellent posts.