Askjo

Many women still died from the abortion since it is legal.

Not only their death from it, but these women died from their life being twisted because of the abortion.

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Reba

Yes, but they don't like those statistics to be published.

Liebling:-)))

Can you please provide link to support your claim? I only know that many women died from illegal abortion?

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Foxrac

When women are in life threaten or serious issue with newborn, abortion is preferred method to save women's life, if no abortion then women would die from that, it don't make sense if many women died from legal abortion that compared to die from life threaten that caused by newborn, that's conflict sense.

Like Reba said, there's no statistics to setup.

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Reba

Here's some.

Abortion Surveillance --- United States, 2000

What are your statistics for deaths from illegal abortions?

Cheri

Yes, because of complications. When abortion was illegal, the death was higher because abortion was done poorly. I known someone that died while having abortion when abortion was legal, she had blood clots.

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Cheri

Major media hide fact women die for legal abortion, expert says

Did You Know?
Abortion is a leading cause of death

The number of unborn babies who die every year from abortion (1.3 million) is more than eleven times greater than the combined total of Americans who die annually from:

accidental falls (12,000)
drownings (4,000)
poisonings (6,000)
car accidents (40,000)
suicides (30,000)
homicides (25,000)

The number of unborn babies who die every year from abortion is higher than the number of Americans who die annually from cancer (550,000) and from heart disease (700,000) combined

Nearly all of the 1.3 million abortions a year are done because the woman did not want to be pregnant at that particular time (although 70% say they intend to have children in the future).

The majority of women undergoing an abortion give one or more of the following reasons:

a baby would interfere with work, school, or other responsibilities (75%)

cannot afford to have a child (66%)

do not want to be a single parent or have problems in the relationship with their husband or partner (50%)

Only 1% of women aborting say they have been advised that their unborn baby has a defect,

and only I% say they became pregnant by rape or incest.

Abortion Statistics

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jillio

The very nature of illegal abortion prevents the collection of statistical data. Illegal abortion doctors don't keep records and make them available to the CDC.

GarnetTigerMom

Yep, That true. I also remember hearing stories that doctors whom performed illegal abortions using dirty tools and never keep them clean make it even worst that can kill a woman getting more serious health infections. That really sadden me.

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Askjo

Reba, do you mean they prefer to keep the secret concerning those statistics? Do you mean they are reluctant to put them in public?

Reba

Then how do people "know" about the numbers of illegal abortion deaths?

Reba

But "stories" aren't the same as proof.

Reba

That's right.

Abortionists want to give the impression that legalized abortion means the same as no-risk abortion.

GarnetTigerMom

Actually, I have read stories like that that happens to some women who are lucky enough to be alive to tell their stories that some women had illegal abortion, also perform abortion on themselve is even worst. Some doctors don't even have a legal practice license to perform abortions and they do it in secret. But today, abortion became more legal for doctors to keep their tools clean, inform the parents if their child want abortions they have to get permission. I know the new law is that if a teenagers get pregnant they must get parents permisssion to have abortion at the hospital where is more legal. In the past like 200, 80, 60 and 40 years ago there were lots of illegal abortions that lot of women have died.

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Askjo

Are they liars? White lies? Or black lies?

Aleser

But that doesn't change what I said into anything less than a fact! A woman is at a statistically greater chance of dying from complications related to childbirth than she is of dying from complications related to abortion- that is just fact. That does not mean women don't die from abortions, it just means that women are more likely to die if they carry the pregnancy to term.

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Aleser

Yeah, because as we all know, every single rape victim reports the crime. Oh, wait, most don't!

Rape is the single most demeaning thing you can do to someone, short of killing them (and in some cases, even in the face of killing them)... even if it shouldn't, even if victims should be able to talk and get help... there's a HUGE amount of shame associated with it. The last thing someone so exposed and broken wants is to be looked at, prodded, and photographed. The 1% represented in your statistic are the ones incredibly brave, or the ones too far injured to try and wash him off and forget it.

So, the next time you comfort your stance with statistics about abortion, think about every single woman who couldn't speak up about what she suffered. Think about the fact that you are abusing her all over again, abusing the fact that she couldn't be a part of those statistics, all to justify your opinions.

Believe what you want to, but don't use the faces you choose to ignore to -make it okay-.

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Liebling:-)))

Yes I agree with GarnetTigerMom's post #195, Aleser's post # 197 and 198. I do not need to add my posts here because their posts are pretty logical and enough.

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Reba

Those aren't proven statistics. There are no proven numbers. Maybe, maybe not. But there are no proven numbers.

Reba

It's a business. You be the judge.

Reba

What is the exact percentage?

Reba

Logical? But what is the proof? What are the numbers? How about a scientific estimate? Do you really know?

Just because a conclusion agrees with your opinion, that isn't "logic".

Aleser

The morbidity and mortality of pregnancy: still ri...[Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1994] - PubMed Result

Ectopic pregnancy is substantially more dangerous (38 deaths/100,000 events) than either childbirth (nine) or legal abortion (less than one).

For most women, fertility regulation by contraception, sterilization, or legal abortion is substantially safer than childbirth.

I wasn't able to find a newer article (I was just quickly browsing) but you're free to search.

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Aleser

There doesn't need to be numbers spewed out of a person's mouth every two seconds for what they're saying to make sense- to seem logical.

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Reba

So are you.

I'm not disputing anyone's statistics, as long as they actually have them.

I'm disputing how people accept broad anecdotal statements without checking out the facts for themselves.

Reba

Without name calling, I will ask who has proven that all illegal abortionists always used dirty instruments? Some illegal abortions were performed by doctors who followed their same surgical procedures that they used in their daily practice.