Hillary or Obama?

wildchild · 01-22-2008, 12:08 PM

Which one would you rather see win the nomination? I personally don't like either. I'm a Republican and hope that McCain wins the Republican nomination. Hillary comes across as cold and coniving (sp?) and Obama, well I'll leave that one alone.

PuyoPiyo · 01-22-2008, 12:47 PM

Well I am not sure yet... There's many strange rumors accusing Obama as "terrorist supporter" because he was a Muslim, also some of people might accuse Hilary as expanding the control of the America while her husband was already president for 8 years.

But to me, it's hard to decide... I am for either Democrat or Liberal just for now..

Foxrac · 01-22-2008, 12:58 PM

Both of them, hard to decide.

Obama isn't terrorist supporter, even he's not muslim but his dad is so, not himself.

Muslim isn't terrorist at general.

PuyoPiyo · 01-22-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacman

Both of them, hard to decide.

Obama isn't terrorist supporter, even he's not muslim but his dad is so, not himself.

Muslim isn't terrorist at general.

Yeah I know that, but here's the example I got from one of my family members in the email..

Quote:

Who is Barack Obama?

Very interesting and something that should be considered in your
choice.

If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all
your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us
here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.

We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM
from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. Hi s father returned to Kenya . His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.?
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia . Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school
in Jakarta .

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since
it is politically expedient to be a CH RISTIAN when seeking major
public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor
will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands
over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States , one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our country?...... NOT ME!!!

Reba · 01-22-2008, 01:57 PM

I don't want Hillary, Obama, or McCain.

I voted in the SC primary last Saturday, and my choice didn't win, so I'll probably be stuck with McCain. He's a good man but he's not a conservative. Since 1980, no Republican nominee was chosen at the national convention without winning SC.

sequoias · 01-22-2008, 02:16 PM

Snopes.com isn't always right. They think it's true....not all muslims are bad people. You're just blaming him which is a stereotype. Don't believe everything you read which snopes.com would say it's true or not.

ScubaladyTx · 01-22-2008, 02:26 PM

I vote for Hillary.. Sorry! Shes great ! Obama is good too.. nothing with "Muslim"
Everybody have MANY MANY different of religions.

M-

PuyoPiyo · 01-22-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sequoias

Snopes.com isn't always right. They think it's true....not all muslims are bad people. You're just blaming him which is a stereotype. Don't believe everything you read which snopes.com would say it's true or not.

I never blame him anything, I was just saying that there is some rumors which I think was kinda strange rumors about the negative sides of Hilary and Obama both.. I was just bringing whatsoever Snopes.com said about Obama as just example..

That's all...

Reba · 01-22-2008, 03:12 PM

I'm curious.

Those of you who support either Hillary or Obama--do you even pay any attention to what they say to each other in debates, or in their campaign ads?

wildchild · 01-22-2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacman

Both of them, hard to decide.

Obama isn't terrorist supporter, even he's not muslim but his dad is so, not himself.

Muslim isn't terrorist at general.

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim.

Eve · 01-22-2008, 07:10 PM

Did y'all notice that Thompson threw in the towel? Thompson abandons White House bid - CNN.com

I guess it's Huckabee for me.

Tousi · 01-22-2008, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eve

Did y'all notice that Thompson threw in the towel? Thompson abandons White House bid - CNN.com

I guess it's Huckabee for me.

Well, if it isn't Huckabee, I'll quote a blogger I've seen elsewhere: "I suffer from electile dysfunction", meaning I'm not terribly aroused by any of the candidates running for the Presidency!

PuyoPiyo · 01-22-2008, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

I'm curious.

Those of you who support either Hillary or Obama--do you even pay any attention to what they say to each other in debates, or in their campaign ads?

I am not sure if your question are toward to me, but I do read the debates around Wikipedia some and found out that mostly wins was Clinton and Obama.

Reba · 01-22-2008, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

I am not sure if your question are toward to me, but I do read the debates around Wikipedia some and found out that mostly wins was Clinton and Obama.

No, my question was not aimed at anyone specific, just Hillary and Obama supporters in general.

Did you read the transcripts of the most recent debate in Myrtle Beach? Hillary and Obama got down and dirty at that one, and left Edwards in the cold.

Reba · 01-22-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Well, if it isn't Huckabee, I'll quote a blogger I've seen elsewhere: "I suffer from electile dysfunction", meaning I'm not terribly aroused by any of the candidates running for the Presidency!

I agree with your blogger friend. I think we need to scrap the whole field and start over again. Ugh!

Eve · 01-22-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Well, if it isn't Huckabee, I'll quote a blogger I've seen elsewhere: "I suffer from electile dysfunction", meaning I'm not terribly aroused by any of the candidates running for the Presidency!

LMAO that's classic!

Byrdie714 · 01-22-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

I'm curious.

Those of you who support either Hillary or Obama--do you even pay any attention to what they say to each other in debates, or in their campaign ads?

No, because I don't bother with all these petty beauty contests that they are having.

I rather wait and see what and who the conventions nominate in regards to both parties as I am an independent.

Liebling:-))) · 01-23-2008, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

I'm curious.

Those of you who support either Hillary or Obama--do you even pay any attention to what they say to each other in debates, or in their campaign ads?

Yes I saw them on the TV. It seem to me that they made contest and think their own interest.

Oh well...

omegaman · 01-23-2008, 05:48 AM

I don't live in the US, and I do not follow US politics, just as most of you don't follow Australian politics.

However, as an outsider, I have always liked Bill Clinton, therefore I would prefer Hillary. But, from what little I have read about her, she doesn't seem favourable.

Foxrac · 01-23-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildchild

Remember, not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim.

No, that's incorrect, Every religion can be terrorist, muslim isn't alone, such as 1996 Atlanta bombing and 1995 Oklahoma City bombing are non-muslim terrorist.

Check more info about list of terrorists.
List of Home Grown Terrorists in the U.S.A. | The Baheyeldin Dynasty

jazzy · 01-24-2008, 09:10 PM

I have not decide yet, Obama or Clinton. I wiill know on Feb 5th when I vote.

Reba · 01-25-2008, 02:06 PM

Hillary and Obama:

Quote:

Hillary Clinton Once Photographed With Obama's 'Slum Landlord'
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
January 25, 2008

(CNSNews.com) - A photograph of a smiling Bill and Hillary Clinton standing beside Tony Rezko surfaced on the Internet as well as on network and cable television Friday morning. NBC's "Today" show was the first to ask Sen. Clinton about photo.

In a Democratic debate last week, Sen. Clinton blasted Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for doing legal work for Rezko -- "your contributor...in his slum landlord business in inner-city Chicago."

Rezko has contributed to Obama's campaign, which later sent about $84,000 of Rezko's tainted donations to charity. The disgraced real estate developer is scheduled to go on trial on public corruption and fraud charges Feb. 25.

Asked about the photo on NBC's "Today" show Friday, Sen. Clinton said she doesn't know Rezko -- "I wouldn't know him if he walked in the door."

Clinton said she did not remember meeting Rezko, either. "You know, I probably have taken hundreds of thousands of pictures," Clinton told Matt Lauer.

It's not clear where the Clintons were photographed with Tony Rezko, but the photo appears to have been taken during Bill Clinton's presidency.

On the "Today" show, Sen. Clinton also tried to clarify that she was "defending" herself when she made the "slum landlord" comment to Obama last week.

She accused Obama of making a "direct attack" on her at the debate. "I tried not to attack first, but I have to defend myself and I do have to counterpunch," Clinton explained. She also said she does not have a "17-year-relationship" with Rezko -- implying that Obama does.

The remark that prompted Hillary to "counter-punch" last week came when Obama accused Clinton of twisting his words on "Republican ideas." Obama said he did not endorse Republican ideas -- and he said his record reflected that: "While I was working on those streets, watching those folks see their jobs shift overseas, you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart," Obama said.

Hillary Clinton Once Photographed With Obama's 'Slum Landlord' -- 01/25/2008

PowerON · 01-25-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScubaladyTx

I vote for Hillary.. Sorry! Shes great ! Obama is good too.. nothing with "Muslim"
Everybody have MANY MANY different of religions.

M-

I ain't let to have Hillary win, because I felt like we have another Clinton for long enough. If she win, we have total 12 years of president term. geez!

Bear · 01-25-2008, 05:32 PM

I do not really know who Im voting for yet. But seeing Obama refuse to put his hand over his heart and recite the pledge, does worry me a bit about voting for him.

Byrdie714 · 01-25-2008, 05:50 PM

Its going to be a toss-up.....

ScubaladyTx · 01-25-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

I ain't let to have Hillary win, because I felt like we have another Clinton for long enough. If she win, we have total 12 years of president term. geez!

Lol, just give her a chance! ha ha.... I know no one perfect on the earth.

M-

PuyoPiyo · 01-25-2008, 06:22 PM

I just have a talk with my parents about the voting for president, and my parents told me about the debate last night between the presidents, and honestly..... Hilary scare me... I don't want more taxes...

~*Kaelei*~ · 01-25-2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

I ain't let to have Hillary win, because I felt like we have another Clinton for long enough. If she win, we have total 12 years of president term. geez!

Hate to tell you this but we already had 12 years of having BUSH!

I'm not sure to vote though...

authentic · 01-25-2008, 07:36 PM

If Obama win, the real-life nightmare begins.

Reba · 01-25-2008, 11:32 PM

I'll be glad when the primaries are over. Obama was in town last night, and Hillary and Edwards were here today. For the last month, we've had at least one candidate (R & D), here almost every day. The Dems have their election tomorrow, so bye-bye candidates.

Many of the black voters in this area are supporting Edwards; not Hilary, not Obama.

01-22-2008, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
wildchild Looking for love Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 23	Hillary or Obama? Which one would you rather see win the nomination? I personally don't like either. I'm a Republican and hope that McCain wins the Republican nomination. Hillary comes across as cold and coniving (sp?) and Obama, well I'll leave that one alone. __________________ Mark R. Liberalism is a mental disorder. - Michael Savage

01-22-2008, 12:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Foxrac o_O Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,918	Both of them, hard to decide. Obama isn't terrorist supporter, even he's not muslim but his dad is so, not himself. Muslim isn't terrorist at general. __________________

01-22-2008, 01:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 20,541	I don't want Hillary, Obama, or McCain. I voted in the SC primary last Saturday, and my choice didn't win, so I'll probably be stuck with McCain. He's a good man but he's not a conservative. Since 1980, no Republican nominee was chosen at the national convention without winning SC. __________________ "This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being." -- Sir Isaac Newton Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other. --John Adams

01-22-2008, 02:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
ScubaladyTx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,200	I vote for Hillary.. Sorry! Shes great ! Obama is good too.. nothing with "Muslim" Everybody have MANY MANY different of religions. M- __________________

01-22-2008, 03:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 20,541	I'm curious. Those of you who support either Hillary or Obama--do you even pay any attention to what they say to each other in debates, or in their campaign ads? __________________ "This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being." -- Sir Isaac Newton Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other. --John Adams

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01-22-2008, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
PuyoPiyo (Image taken 2005) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 6,114	Well I am not sure yet... There's many strange rumors accusing Obama as "terrorist supporter" because he was a Muslim, also some of people might accuse Hilary as expanding the control of the America while her husband was already president for 8 years. But to me, it's hard to decide... I am for either Democrat or Liberal just for now..

01-22-2008, 02:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: A little trip to the extraordinary. Posts: 16,199	Snopes.com isn't always right. They think it's true....not all muslims are bad people. You're just blaming him which is a stereotype. Don't believe everything you read which snopes.com would say it's true or not.

01-22-2008, 07:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
Eve Goddess Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Paradise Posts: 1,125	Did y'all notice that Thompson threw in the towel? Thompson abandons White House bid - CNN.com I guess it's Huckabee for me.

01-23-2008, 05:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
omegaman ambient Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Remember what the doorknob said... Posts: 1,168	I don't live in the US, and I do not follow US politics, just as most of you don't follow Australian politics. However, as an outsider, I have always liked Bill Clinton, therefore I would prefer Hillary. But, from what little I have read about her, she doesn't seem favourable. __________________

01-24-2008, 09:10 PM	#21 (permalink)
jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High desert in Calif Posts: 3,596	I have not decide yet, Obama or Clinton. I wiill know on Feb 5th when I vote. __________________

01-25-2008, 05:32 PM	#24 (permalink)
Bear Out Of Hibernation Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,137	I do not really know who Im voting for yet. But seeing Obama refuse to put his hand over his heart and recite the pledge, does worry me a bit about voting for him. __________________ http://bears-city.myminicity.com/

01-25-2008, 05:50 PM	#25 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,946	Its going to be a toss-up.....

01-25-2008, 06:22 PM	#27 (permalink)
PuyoPiyo (Image taken 2005) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fourth Plain Village WA Posts: 6,114	I just have a talk with my parents about the voting for president, and my parents told me about the debate last night between the presidents, and honestly..... Hilary scare me... I don't want more taxes...

01-25-2008, 07:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
authentic vrai vainqueur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: DC! Posts: 3,164	If Obama win, the real-life nightmare begins. __________________

01-25-2008, 11:32 PM	#30 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 20,541	I'll be glad when the primaries are over. Obama was in town last night, and Hillary and Edwards were here today. For the last month, we've had at least one candidate (R & D), here almost every day. The Dems have their election tomorrow, so bye-bye candidates. Many of the black voters in this area are supporting Edwards; not Hilary, not Obama. __________________ "This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being." -- Sir Isaac Newton Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other. --John Adams

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