GarnetTigerMom

I have never read anything that says Hilary Clinton cheated medicare insurance and she owe it. If her husband have health problems.. I am sure he can afford to pay doctors. He can't possibly be on medicare or medicaid. But remember some of the stroies print like that not very speific facts.

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Reba

More about Hillary's health insurance plan:

Clinton May Garnish Wages to Achieve Universal Health Care -- 02/04/2008

Foxrac

Well, too earlier to see like that, I prefer to see her's new system about health plan, if doesn't sounds like bad then would be acceptable but... I just want see if her's plan would work, it's new to us.

Don't think so quickly to against her, just like try out for her new plan, if we don't like her plan then can be overturn or something like that. Health is more important in my opinion, even many low income don't afford and medicaid/medicare aren't 100% effective, I'm employee at retail store and health insurance is so expensive then I had turn it down.

For her's plan, it would require vote from congress, even she cannot make on her own without vote and sign into law.

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Reba

That's the point. If Hillary's plan is accepted, you won't be allowed to turn it down. You will be forced to accept it and pay for it.

PuyoPiyo

And that's scary.

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Foxrac

Like my post, it's too earlier to said but Hillary's plan is new to us.

I'm not scared about her, plus she would levied more taxes on rich people, such as celebrities and restore the middle class, that means middle class would do anything as rich people does. I don't worried because I'm not rich man, that what I found from info on newspaper.

Wait and see... I'm more side with Liebling.

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Reba

Hillary's forced health insurance is not for rich celebrities; it's for middle class people. Middle class people will be forced to pay for this insurance, like it or lump it. People working in stores, restaurants, gas stations, and other small businesses will be forced to pay. No choice. That's her plan.

authentic

What if someone could not afford the health plan, then what?

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Silentwolfdog

Yeah, that's what I would like to know as well. Obviously forcing someone won't work because that person won't still have enough money to buy insurance.

I would like to have system where everyone will have one through taxes.

But this will tell me which one is more important to Americans, have tons of money or life.

I chose the latter. After all, who cares if I can't afford a really nice fancy car because my taxes goes to help people who need it the most. Have a decent car is enough after all I know not everyone is lucky.

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Foxrac

On her statement, it said if people who make enough or alot of money and doesn't want to buy insurance, it isn't existing for me because I'm on low wage job and insurance was affected to large of my income, maybe 30% or more for insurance, even insurance is so expensive at my company but it does offers better in other companies. If so then I would be broke or hard to save because I had alot spent on needs, even some wants. If I'm really get better job in near future then I would can afford insurance as must because everything are risk and dangerous without insurance.

However, she said that would make limit premiums to low percent of income, that would fine with me if price are better and cheaper than existing companies offers.

Again, speaking of turned down, I was talk about existing insurance right now, not at her because I don't know about her plan would be so.

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XBGMER

is there something wrong with my grammar??? Geez..

GarnetTigerMom, Oh no, I didnt hold against hillary Clinton. I talked about Obama's wife.

Byrdie714

Hillary's plan is that it will be taken out of your paycheck.

GarnetTigerMom

Oh,, alright.. I was lost lol and went "huh?" lol thanks for clearing it up.

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fredfam1

This has always been Hillarys tactic. That is why everyone was so angry when she tried to put her health care plan in to effect when she was 1st lady. She tried to do it with no input from the voters or legislators. Just her WILL against the peoples. She has always been about control and dominance. She wants power and thats all she has ever wanted. She rode into office on the coat tails of her husband. She didn't divorce that gigolo who couldn't keep his member in his pants, because she NEEDED him! She needed to use his sorry butt to get into office. I have no use for a woman who can't even allow her own daughter to call her at work because she's so busy that the school has to contact her daddy the PRESIDENT because the poor little girl is afraid it will make her mom mad to disturb her. Is this the kind of HUMAN we want in the highest office of our land?

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GarnetTigerMom

How would you know what her daughter feelings are? Only she can tell that to people herself. I thnk she seems to be doing fine. But yes, Bill Clinton did drop his pant down to Monica or any other women. But Hilary did stand by him and denfese him for his poor mistakes. I am sure lot of men out there do cheat on their wife and it take time for the wife to forgive her husband if they plan to make the marriage last. I think every marriage couple will have some marriage problems which will be a long hard roads to work it out.

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jazzy

Have u been married?

How do u know their daughter is too aftraid of her mom? Is it okay for Bush's duaghters to get drunk and party while their daddy in the office?

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Reba

Probably the same thing as what happens now with the Social Security and Medicare "insurance contribution" that is withheld from your paycheck. Does the IRS accept the excuse, "I can't afford to pay SS and Medicare"? Nope. If you work, you pay.

fredfam1

A "mistake" is one thing. Any one can make an error in judgment. But repeated errors are done on purpose. If Hillary doesn't have the respect of her husband she can't keep the respect of the people. As to her daughter, those were her own words one day at school when she was having a problem and the nurse asked her if they should contact her mom and she said, "No you better contact my dad, because my mom's away". And I will NEVER for get the sarchastic disdainful remark Hillary herself made, when asked about being away from home so much and all the work involved in politics and she said, "I suppose I could stay at home and make tea and cookies with my daugther?" It wasn't her words but the sarcastic way she said it that let you know that she thought stay at home moms were beneath contempt. The following quote does nothing to give you the idea of the tone in her voice. But I heard her when she said it.

"I've done the best I can to lead my life," Hillary said about her high-powered lifestyle in an interview at the time. "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas."

The comment caused Republicans and others to complain that she was belittling stay-at-home moms. She ended up baking her chocolate chip cookies as an apology of sorts.

Here is her cookie recipie. I would be careful however. Many people who have worked for Hilary have ended up committing "apparent suicides". No one knows why it's so stressful working for them. Perhaps these cookies are more than what they appear.

Hillary Clinton's Chocolate Chip Cookies

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* 1 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1 teaspoon baking soda
* 1 cup shortening
* 1 cup packed brown sugar
* 1/2 cup white sugar
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 2 eggs
* 2 cups rolled oats
* 2 cups semisweet chocolate chips

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1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (180 degrees C). Brush baking sheets lightly with vegetable oil.
2. Combine flour, salt and baking soda on waxed paper.
3. Beat together shortening, sugars and vanilla in large bowl with electric mixer until creamy. Add eggs and beat until light and fluffy.
4. Gradually beat in flour mixture. Stir in rolled oats and then chocolate chips.
5. Drop batter by rounded teaspoonsfuls onto baking sheets. Bake for 8-10 minutes or till golden. Cool cookies on sheets for 2 minutes. Remove to wire racks to cool completely.

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fredfam1

While I don't like to see any one get drunk, at least they didn't carry on their behavior in the oval office while their daddy was on the phone discussing troop deployments like Clinton did. I guess if Hillary is elected and she needs to have a blow job while discussing troop deployments, at least she'll probably have the "blower" commit "suicide" later so they don't save an item of her clothing with any evidence on it.

See the following list:
Whitewater Body Count
All the President's Men
Actually, many of these people had no connection to Whitewater, but are tied in to other Clinton scandals. Some may really have been suicides.
Dead:
Vince Foster
His 20 July 1993 death was initially ruled a suicide, but is under investigation by Special Prosecutor Starr. There are still a lot of unanswered questions concerning Foster's death.
Luther "Jerry" Parks
In Little Rock on 26 September 1993, Jerry Parks, whose company provided security for Clinton's presidential campaign and transition headquarters, was ambushed and killed by at least three bullets fired at close range from a 9mm semi-automatic pistol as he was driving home.

Now the dead man's son, Gary Parks, charges that his father, who ran American Contract Services Inc., was killed "to save Bill Clinton's political career."

Interviewed in the London Telegraph, the younger Parks said "my dad was working on Clinton's infidelities for about six years, starting in the campaign around 1983," and had compiled two name-and-photo-filled files on Mr. Clinton that he kept hidden in his bedroom.

Shortly before he was killed, Mr. Parks Little Rock home was broken into. Not only were the phone lines severed and security system dismantled, but Jane Parks, Mr. Parks' widow, says the pair of Clinton files turned up missing and "must have been stolen."

(25 March 1994 Washington Times)

Kathy Ferguson and Bill Shelton
Kathy Ferguson, former wife of the Arkansas state trooper that is being sued along with President Clinton for sexual harrasment by Paula Jones died from a gunshot wound to the right temple early Thursday, 12 May 1994. It is currently being investigated as an apparent suicide. She was apparently moving out of her boyfirend's home, as her bags were packed. (AP) Though Kathy was already divorced at the time of the 1991 sexual harrasment incident, she may have been aware of details of her husband's activities at that time, or she may have known of other earlier incidents.

Arkansas police officer Bill Shelton was found dead on the grave of Mrs. Ferguson on 12 June 1994 wiht a suicide note next to the body. A bullet had entered behind his right ear. (The Economist)

Suzanne Coleman
Suzanne had an affair with Clinton when he was Attorney General in Arkansas. On 15 February 1977, she "committed suicide" with a gunshot to the back of the head. No autopsy was performed, and she was seven-and-a-half months pregnant with Clinton's child.

Herschel Firday
On 1 March 1994, he died in a small plane crash. Mr Firday was a member of Clinton's campaign finance committee and head of a large Arkansas law firm. He was landing in a drizzle at dusk at his own airfield.
Dr. Ronald Rogers
On 3 March 1994, Dentist Ronald Rogers, who was about to meet with a British journalist, died in another small plane crash as he flew from Dallas to Denver. The plane reported electrical problems at 22:30 near the Texas-Oklahoma border. It crashed in clear weather 40 miles south of where it dropped off radar.
Jon Walker
On 15 August 1993, Jon Walker died when he fell from the top of the Lincoln Towers building in Arlington, VA. He had been an investigator for the Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC). In that capacity in March of 1992, he had contacted the Kansas RTC regional office for information concerning ties between Whitewater, Madison Guaranty, and the Clintons. (The Economist)
Stanley Huggins
On 23 June 1994, he was found dead in Delaware, reportedly from viral pneumonia. He had headed a 1987 examination into Madison Guaranty's loan practices and produced a large report which has not been released. (The Economist)
C. Victor Riser III
The national finance co-chairman of the Clinton for President campaign, C. Victor Riser III, was killed in a plane crash in July 1992.
Paul Tully
The Democratic National Committee policial director, Paul Tully, died from unknown causes in his hotel room in Little Rock in September 1992. No autopsy was performed.
Florence Martin
Ms. Martin was shot three times in the head on Monday, 31 October 1994. All I have about this is from a news post.
Danny Casolaro
Correction: Danny Casolaro was investigating the Justice Department's stealing of PROMIS from INSLA W when he was murdered on 9 August 1991. Apparently some of the more extreme conspiracy theories have the two connected through BCCI and the Contras. [Can anyone tell me why I was told that he was "investigating drug and gun running in Arkansas" and died in July 1992?]

Calvin Walraven
The informant who testified against former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elder's son in a cocaine trafficking trial died of a shotgun wound to the head 10 days after the trial. It was ruled a suicide.
Injured:
L. J. Davis
The reporter who wrote an April 4 article for the New Republic concerning Whitewater was attacked in Arkansas on 14 February 1994, but survived head injuries, though some of his papers concerning his investigation into Whitewater were stolen, including a "list of contacts," and a "critical document." Based on a mysterious phone call he received before the beating, he suspects that his modem transmission of his story was intercepted (ie. that his phone was tapped).

Davis is a contributing editor for Harper's magazine and does free-lance writing for many publications. A transcript of an interview with him was posted to the net.

The article, "The Name of Rose," which provides an excellent overview of politics and corruption in Arkansas is available from the Electronic Newsstand.
Murdoch
A New York Post reporter who was assaulted in Little Rock while he was there collecting information on a story he wrote about Whitewater.
Gary Johnson
Gary Johnson is a lawyer who lived next door to Gennifer Flowers in the Quapaw Towers appartment building. On 26 June 1992, he was severly beaten to the point that his splean had to be removed. (The Economist)
Dennis Patrick
After having tens of millions of dollars that he did not own traded through his account at Lasater & Co., he has survived three attempts on his life. He has now spoken to FBI agents and Fiske's taskforce.

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fredfam1

And when my first husband was unfaithful to me, I hung his butt out to dry! Then I married a decent man who could keep his vows!

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GarnetTigerMom

For one thing, We are not there to witness it in real person to person. You don't have to be married to know how the relationship is. Marriage to me is just a piece of paper. But I do know what it like to have a long long relationship. So, As for Bush twins daughters,, they are the one getting themselves in trouble and getting caught. So that not really our problems. If Chelsea is afarid of her mom, the meida would have printed her behavior. But so far I have not seen any of that proof.

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fredfam1

We do know about the profiles of abused women though. And Hillary, inspite
of her outward show of strength, is an abused woman who will not be able to deal with the more wicked people in this world. The following is part of the psychological profile of an abused woman and how that relates to Hillary.

Out of Her League
After all, if Hillary couldn’t stand up to her testosterone-driven, megalomaniacal, narcissistic husband all these years, it is impossible to believe that she will ever be able to stand up to the same kind of man in the world arena – especially those who give not a fig for her leftwing political correctness and who see her as a p