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"...Britain got the top score in overall ranking among the countries in the study, followed by Germany. New Zealand and Australia tied for third followed by Canada and the United States...." I find it ironic that you picked a source like Commondreams.org to support your viewpoint. They say about themselves: "Common Dreams is a national non-profit citizens' organization working to bring progressive Americans together to promote progressive visions for America's future." Let me think, where else have I seen that phrase "progressive" used recently? Oh, yeah, during a debate Hillary Clinton said that she prefers to be called a "progressive." Interesting.
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Every country on this planet has an healthcare problem including Germany...
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I told you many times that I do not complaint about pay more taxes and social insurances... *shrug* Many people aware about the difference health system between Europe and American and prefer EU health system over America. I don't mind to pay more taxes and social insurances because I want to help my & other families including myself. ![]() |
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![]() Anyway, I learn from ADers that US heath insurance, they want to insure voluntarily is expensive than EU health system, that's how million Americans cannot afford to insure health coverage for themselves including family. I compare them and prefer EU health system because I can get everything what I need without hassle/stress. |
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And also you, too because you claimed in previous posts that it would be extra taxes for you if Hillary won at election. Look at workers/employees who cannot afford to join health coverage extra for themselves and their family. Look at me, I do not complaint that I pay more taxes and social insurance. |
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It was started at long, long, long time ago.... I am satisfied what I have and get what I need.
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We watch world journel news on TV yesterday. It's interesting to watch them...
Senator Edward Kennedy support Obama with his election. I has the feeling that Obama win at election this November. ? Wait and See... They (reporters) interviewed Americans. Most Americans answered why they support Obama is because of his color skin... Because of his color skin... ??? I wasn't realized that they are after Obama's skin color, not his positive political talk...
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Me too, I had my health insurance over 26 years. I did not understand why alot of American people do not have their health insurance. Why can't they get a good jobs? They can't depend on government welfare, ssi and medicare rest of their life even they are in a good health. Waste alot of my taxes. I was so shocked to see my paycheck, the state and federal deduct alot of amount out of my check.
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Some Americans said that private health coverage for family cost them more than $400 per month which is too much for them when they don't have health insurance coverage offers in their companies. ? As you said that you don't work to pay taxes for people's welfare, etc. Accord some of Reba's posts, you Americans work to pay taxes for medicare/medicard etc etc for low income family or people who don't have job? I would love to collect your answer to my questions. |
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I have seen a lot of Deaf and blind or more than disability, they do go to work. Compliment them! I have enough to say this; it is not worth for me to talk about it. It will lead me into upset and furious. Drop that subject...
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I'm support Obama for different reasons than skin colors alone.
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You aren't alone, there's some of family members are experience about alot of taxes, for me, taxes on my payroll seems so rough.
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The reasoning for some families paying more in health insurance is due to smoking, obesity, family health, etc. Why should the health insurance companies offer cheap rates for....smokers? It's known that smoking isn't good for your health. Liebling writes: Quote:
Both questions couldn't be answered by you. We should ask a Canadian and not assume anything. Liebling writes: Quote:
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Taxes taken out does s*** but remember without all of the above, we would be screwed. Plus, we do get some of that money back around April 15th. Pacman writes: Quote:
I am not supporting either Democrat or Republican yet as I want to see who wins the nomination on both sides before making a decision. I am sure we will know more on February 5th. Question to Liebling: why are you interested in who we vote for? Anyway Edwards is out and so is Giuliani. |
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So, some people prefer EU health system, and some people prefer American. OK.
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"...The aim of the new reformed German health service to share the pain of reform with Germans forced to pay more out of their own pockets for medical care and additional big changes will be needed in the coming years to stem the costs of the system as the German population ages..." There will be fewer workers available to pay the higher taxes that will support the retired elderly population.
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If you don't like the information that's in your linked sources, why do you post them?
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The system will have to change because the population demographics are changing. The baby boom ended a long time ago. There will be too many retirees and not enough workers to support the current system.
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Sorry, but if you have taxes, Social Security and Medicare deducted from your pay, then you are paying for other people's SSI, welfare, and Medicare.
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Yep, the field is narrowing.
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After I saw what my sister went through, I think everyone deserves a universal health insurance.
I don't want business to control it anymore. It's not good to have greedy people control something that involved with lives of human being. It's different from car insurance or house insurance. I think it's important for everyone to have a safety net. I think no one will complian once they realize they are the ones that have some health problems and needed all help they can get. But they need to do something so that middle class won't be affected by taxes so much. Maybe instead of wasting money to oversea in Iraq. They should encourage more taxes on wealthiest instead of give them a break while put burden of taxes on middle and poor classes. They really don't know how to spend our money correctly. I don't know who to vote for, even though I liked Clinton's philosophy on disability especially ADA. I get a feeling that Clinton will listen to our woe and do something about it, while I am unsure about Obama to as whether he will do it or just nodding. I think generally I will be happy with either one as long as they are not Rep. lol
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I don't know yet.
It's interesting and yet at the same time, kind of troubling. If you think about it, we had George Bush--the father, Bill Clinton, then Bush's son, and if Hillary wins -- we are back to Clinton again. Bush -Clinton -Bush -Clinton. Did our government changed to a "family feud"? It will be nice once Super Tuesday gets here as we will know more about our choices..... |
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Now u rather to not to help my sister in law who is living on ssi because of her illness and she can not work. My brother owed hospital bill worth 1 million dollar and guess what his insurance went bankrupted so he was stuck with 1 million dollar bill. It upsets me that people only think of themselves instead of help other. I work and pay my taxers and I am willing to pay more to help others to live longer than keep it for myself. My daughter in law has one good point, why she has to pay social security tax when she will never see one dime out of it when she reach her retirement which itmeans her money will go to u when u reitre. She gives to u and u give her nothing.
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me upset? I do not like false, twist and misleading... Anyway, please look at your post toward me... I find it ironic that you picked a source like Commondreams.org to support your viewpoint. The link, I provided to address brylie's misleading posts, not you. It's bad if you don't like it.Anyway, did you read the whole of Americans cons/pros comments how they feel about US healthcare in those link? |
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