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Old 01-26-2008, 09:13 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I just have a talk with my parents about the voting for president, and my parents told me about the debate last night between the presidents, and honestly..... Hilary scare me... I don't want more taxes...
Not really, taxes are seems high so enough, such as taxes on payroll when Bush is in office but he does give a tax cut to rich people, that's not fair.

When Hillary in office then she wouldn't give a tax cut to rich people, just want be fair with low and middle income, even she would probably give less taxes to low or middle income. I cannot trust on all presidents about taxes, if they said would cut it but nothing is happen to me.
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:05 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Not really, taxes are seems high so enough, such as taxes on payroll when Bush is in office but he does give a tax cut to rich people, that's not fair.
Please explain this tax cut that was for rich people only. When was that, and how did it work?

Also, what about Bush's proposal for a tax "rebate" that goes to everyone, including people who don't even pay taxes. That's a tax break for low and middle income people, right?


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When Hillary in office then she wouldn't give a tax cut to rich people, just want be fair with low and middle income, even she would probably give less taxes to low or middle income. I cannot trust on all presidents about taxes, if they said would cut it but nothing is happen to me.
Exactly how would she do that? What's the exact plan?
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:48 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Please explain this tax cut that was for rich people only. When was that, and how did it work?

Also, what about Bush's proposal for a tax "rebate" that goes to everyone, including people who don't even pay taxes. That's a tax break for low and middle income people, right?



Exactly how would she do that? What's the exact plan?
I got info from my friend about tax cut for rich people, plus I don't believe about Bush would proposal about tax rebate or so.

I was just stated my opinion about Hillary, I can't tell you because I don't work in 90's when Bill Clinton was in office, I just wait and see about what happens but... I had been told by some of my families about Bill and Hillary Clinton, that how they was explained about tax issue.
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:01 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I got info from my friend about tax cut for rich people, plus I don't believe about Bush would proposal about tax rebate or so....
Here's the tax rebate that Bush has proposed:

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Stimulus Package at a Glance

Thursday , January 24, 2008

Congressional leaders have reached a deal with the White house on a bipartisan economic stimulus package that is expected to move swiftly through Congress and give most tax filers rebates of $600 to $1,200.

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— Tax rebates: Checks of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes, so long as they earned at least $3,000 in 2007. Families with children would receive an additional $300 per child, while those paying income taxes could receive higher rebates. The full rebate would be limited to individuals earning $75,000 or less and couples with incomes of $150,000 or less, but a partial rebate would go to individuals earning up to $87,000 and couples earning up to $174,000. The caps are higher for people with children.
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Thank you, Reba..

If Hilary does that, then we will have to pay the taxes for whole of that money. That's too much adding taxes..
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Bush could declare a state of emergency on Election Day and retain Presidency for next 4 years....

Can we say, " Long Live Bush? "
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:34 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure who I'm voting for yet but for right now I'm keeping an open mind on both sides.
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Bush could declare a state of emergency on Election Day and retain Presidency for next 4 years....

Can we say, " Long Live Bush? "
ah actuallly Bush ran for 8 years and he can't run again for president another for 4 years, the law is limit to 4 to 8 years to run for president. So no way in hell he Bush can declare state of emegerncy since the congress people won't allow him. I had enough of Bush, never likes him.
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I am not extacly ready to vote anyone of them yet right now, I have seen and watch their debates and trading insult to each other lot. But I have to agree and disagree with each of them for what their plans to help the american people. I do have to say McCain is way too old and makes me wonder can he handle the pressure at the age 67 years old to run for president? It seems not too promising.
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Damn to SK3 for messed my post up.

Obama is protected under secret service protection and would reduce his chance to get killed, I think its bad practice to discuss about him to get killed in near future. But its still can be happen in anytime.
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Old 01-27-2008, 04:12 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Thank you, Reba..

If Hilary does that, then we will have to pay the taxes for whole of that money. That's too much adding taxes..
Well, I believe that she would may add more taxes for children medical support, that what I found from other post in AD.

Less taxes means less service.

More taxes means more service.

Reba, I got your post about prospal tax rebate, I would wait and see, thanks for post it.
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Well, I believe that she would may add more taxes for children medical support, that what I found from other post in AD.

Less taxes means less service.

More taxes means more service.
Well but I wonder what's wrong with the system today? Usually some of jobs do cover the health insurance, and also people with low income can get a insurance depends on the states, there is many ways we can get the insurance, but require all of us seems too much..
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Obama won South Carolina.
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Obama won South Carolina.
Yup, I noticed it, no surprise.

Are you described as ultra conservative, pro-traditional? I can't call a republican because you are just independent.
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Well but I wonder what's wrong with the system today? Usually some of jobs do cover the health insurance, and also people with low income can get a insurance depends on the states, there is many ways we can get the insurance, but require all of us seems too much..
Well, it wasn't enough right now because medicaid is so limited and insurance for family is rediciously expensive in certain of jobs, that cause middle income to cannot afford it, because cost of living is much higher than last decade ago, such as gas price, groceries or other stuff, recently there's credit issue too.

I believe that for rising the taxes or planning the new service would require vote from congress, if vote was turn down then Hillary has no power to increase the taxes. Right now, during Bush's term, taxes on payroll seems so higher to me but I'm STRONGLY against flat tax, middle and high income are should to pay more taxes. I think that tax would be most levied on rich people.
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I just have a talk with my parents about the voting for president, and my parents told me about the debate last night between the presidents, and honestly..... Hilary scare me... I don't want more taxes...
I see no problem for that because Hillary Clinton support Healthy, Welfare & Poverty.

In European countries including Germany, we paid high taxes because we received the rights as the equal as everyone, no matter what. like treat by doctors, dentals, treatments, etc. I would against if I pay high taxes without treatments etc. but spend on wars and low income people only, not for yourself...
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How about HIllary for President due to her experience and Obama as a Vice President? At least he would get the experience.....?

They were talking about that last night on CNN if that scenario happens...
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I see no problem for that because Hillary Clinton support Healthy, Welfare & Poverty.

In European countries including Germany, we paid high taxes because we received the rights as the equal as everyone, no matter what. like treat by doctors, dentals, treatments, etc. I would against if I pay high taxes without treatments etc. but spend on wars and low income people only, not for yourself...
In socialist countries, sometime you have to wait to get the medical care. Why do you think a lot of Canadians come to the United States for their own health care????

Not the best but it's a lot better than other countries.
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Obama won South Carolina.
Jesse Jackson won SC twice.
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In socialist countries, sometime you have to wait to get the medical care. Why do you think a lot of Canadians come to the United States for their own health care????

Not the best but it's a lot better than other countries.
I think our country is worst in medical care than many places around the world. Many people did not get take care and we do not care about them at all. We just want to keep our money to ourselves and not help them.
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How about HIllary for President due to her experience and Obama as a Vice President? At least he would get the experience.....?

They were talking about that last night on CNN if that scenario happens...
Do u honeslty believe Obama would want to be Vice Preisdent next to Hilary? Or vice verse?
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I strongly doubt Hilary would want Obama working with her to be vice president so that not possible. They both have differet set of goals and beliefs.
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I strongly doubt Hilary would want Obama working with her to be vice president so that not possible. They both have differet set of goals and beliefs.
I agree. Plus, their personalities would clash big time.
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I know. What's the point?
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I think our country is worst in medical care than many places around the world. Many people did not get take care and we do not care about them at all. We just want to keep our money to ourselves and not help them.
I disagree because at least in this country, you don't have to sit around and wait for permission to have a life saving surgery or not....
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