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Old 11-10-2007, 07:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Republican stopped Vietnam war

Democrats think that after their Democrat leader become President,
then the Iraq war will stop.

That isn't true.

Okay... another nonsense thread you all may say...

but my point is...

You would think JFK...

You know JFK, the democrat...

John F. Kennedy, you heard of him?

You would think JFK would stop the Vietnam war or withdrew our troops
from Vietnam. But he didn't.

You would think Lyndon B. Johnson would stop the Vietnam war or withdrew our troops from Vietnam. But he didn't.

Guess who stopped the Vietnam War...

NIXON.

Yeah, that is right. And he wasn't a Democrat. NOPE. of course not.

See here... Richard Nixon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and look at McCain in the black and white picture shaking hands with Nixon.

Let me copy and paste in case you can't find it in Wikipedia....

Once in office, he proposed the Nixon Doctrine, a strategy of replacing American troops with the Vietnamese troops, also called "Vietnamization."

Did you read that???

In July 1969, he visited South Vietnam, and met with President Nguyen Van Thieu and with U.S. military commanders. American involvement in the war declined steadily until all American troops were gone in 1973. After the withdrawal of U.S. troops, fighting was left to the South Vietnamese army.

SEE.

Although the South Vietnamese were well supplied with modern arms, their fighting capability was limited by inadequate funding, low morale, and corruption. The lack of funding was primarily because of large funding cutbacks by the U.S. Congress.

Nixon was widely praised in the United States for having delivered 'peace with honor', and ended American involvement in the war in Vietnam.

YES... a REPUBLICAN earned PEACE WITH HONOR.
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Huh-uh.....Well, World War 2 were stopped by Democrats....
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Huh-uh.....Well, World War 2 were stopped by Democrats....

Truman was a Democrat?

If Roosevelt died on April 1945.

Then who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima in August 1945?

It had to be Vice President.
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Truman was a Democrat?

If Roosevelt died on April 1945.

Then who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima in August 1945?

It had to be Vice President.
Yes, Truman was a Democrat. He was VP to FDR. When FDR died, Truman became President. Truman gave the order to drop the bombs.
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oh...

Japan dropped the bomb on Pearl Harbor
and then Congress declared war on Japan...

Franklin D. Roosevelt, the democrat, started WWII and Truman the Democrat Vice President, ended it.

So WWII was Democrat war.

Also... USA helped U.K. to get rid of Adolf Hitler.
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No, Hitler started the war in 1939 by the invasion of Poland, and Truman ended the war in 1945 by the atomic bombs in Japan.
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Why U.S. get involved with WWI?

Why Democrat Woodrow Wilson had USA in this WWI?

It was before Hitler.
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oh...

Japan dropped the bomb on Pearl Harbor
It wasn't "the" bomb; it was an aerial attack by many planes.


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Franklin D. Roosevelt, the democrat, started WWII ...
WWII was already well underway for more than two years in Europe and Asia before the United States got involved; FDR didn't start WWII.


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...Truman the Democrat Vice President, ended it.
He wasn't VP at the end of the war; he was President.


Sigh...even if they didn't teach you 20th century world history in school you can at least watch the History channel.
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Why U.S. get involved with WWI?

Why Democrat Woodrow Wilson had USA in this WWI?

It was before Hitler.
Ever heard of Lusitania? So, that's why the US got in the war against Germany.
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oh i see...

look... Woodrow Wilson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wilson died in his S Street home on February 3, 1924. Because his plan for the League of Nations ultimately failed, he died feeling that he had lied to the American people and that his motives for joining the war had been in vain. He was buried in Washington National Cathedral.
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Truman ended WWII and then started Korean War?
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Then Eisenhower was Republican? He ended Korean War and started
Vietnam war?

UGH!!!!!


We need to BAN PRESIDENTS, WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE PRESIDENTS

THEY ARE KILLING US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All of these WARS need to stop
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I didn't mean to say started or ended...

But.... I mean enter and exit.

But President Bush started the Iraq war. No?

Hopefully President Bush ended it before he leaves White House.

I was in chatroom and Democrats keep saying Hillary or Democrat
will end the Iraq war...


And well I am thinking, it doesn't matter Democrat or Republican,
but somebody need to end Iraq war.
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Actually War world 2 started by Hilter who was killing so many jews and other races. Hilter wanted a perfect race. So many jew try to escape so England and USA help to fight ww 2 to stop Hilter for almost succes to take over the world. Did you know that Hilter himself is part jew? He is a very sick man.
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Japan started it...

Japan invaded China

Then Germany, Hitler, invaded Poland. U.K. got pissed and declared war on Germany.

Germany captured Denmark and Norway. And also France.

Italy attacked France.

Germany attacked British.

U.K. battled Germany and Italy.

Then Germany attacked Soviet Union.

Soviet Union became allied with U.K.

Then Germany declared war on USA...

Wow, Hitler wanted to take over the world.

September 1939, Germany attacked Poland
September 1940, Hitler ordered Jewish people to wear yellow star.
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Adolf Hitler was born on 20th April, 1889, in the small Austrian town of Braunau near the German border. Both Hitler's parents had come from poor peasant families. His father Alois Hitler, the illegitimate son of a housemaid, was an intelligent and ambitious man and later became a senior customs official.

Klara Hitler was Alois' third wife. Alois was twenty-three years older than Klara and already had two children from his previous marriages. Klara and Alois had five children but only Adolf and a younger sister, Paula, survived to become adults.

Alois, who was fifty-one when Adolf was born, was extremely keen for his son to do well in life. Alois did have another son by an earlier marriage but he had been a big disappointment to him and eventually ended up in prison for theft. Alois was a strict father and savagely beat his son if he did not do as he was told.

Hitler did extremely well at primary school and it appeared he had a bright academic future in front of him. He was also popular with other pupils and was much admired for his leadership qualities. He was also a deeply religious child and for a while considered the possibility of becoming a monk.

Competition was much tougher in the larger secondary school and his reaction to not being top of the class was to stop trying. His father was furious as he had high hopes that Hitler would follow his example and join the Austrian civil service when he left school. However, Hitler was a stubborn child and attempts by his parents and teachers to change his attitude towards his studies were unsuccessful.

Hitler also lost his popularity with his fellow pupils. They were no longer willing to accept him as one of their leaders. As Hitler liked giving orders he spent his time with younger pupils. He enjoyed games that involved fighting and he loved re-enacting battles from the Boer War. His favourite game was playing the role of a commando rescuing Boers from English concentration camps.

The only teacher Hitler appeared to like at secondary school was Leopold Potsch, his history master. Potsch, like many people living in Upper Austria, was a German Nationalist. Potsch told Hitler and his fellow pupils of the German victories over France in 1870 and 1871 and attacked the Austrians for not becoming involved in these triumphs. Otto von Bismarck, the first chancellor of the German Empire, was one of Hitler's early historical heroes

Aware of the power of Jewish money, Hitler began to leave out anti-Semitic comments from his speeches during elections. This was one of the major factors in the increase in financial contributions from German industrialists in the 1933 General Election. His change in tactics was so successful that even Jewish businessmen began contributing money to the National Socialist German Workers Party.

Once in power Hitler began to express anti-Semitic ideas again. Based on his readings of how blacks were denied civil rights in the southern states in America, Hitler attempted to make life so unpleasant for Jews in Germany that they would emigrate. The campaign started on 1st April, 1933, when a one-day boycott of Jewish-owned shops took place. Members of the Sturm Abteilung (SA) picketed the shops to ensure the boycott was successful.

The hostility of towards Jews increased in Germany. This was reflected in the decision by many shops and restaurants not to serve the Jewish population. Placards saying "Jews not admitted" and "Jews enter this place at their own risk" began to appear all over Germany. In some parts of the country Jews were banned from public parks, swimming-pools and public transport.

Germans were also encouraged not to use Jewish doctors and lawyers. Jewish civil servants, teachers and those employed by the mass media were sacked. Members of the SA put pressure on people not to buy goods produced by Jewish companies. For example, the Ullstein Press, the largest publisher of newspapers, books and magazines in Germany, was forced to sell the company to the NSDAP in 1934 after the actions of the SA had made it impossible for them to make a profit.

Many Jewish people who could no longer earn a living left the country. The number of Jews emigrating increased after the passing of the Nuremberg Laws on Citizenship and Race in 1935. Under this new law Jews could no longer be citizens of Germany. It was also made illegal for Jews to marry Aryans.

The pressure on Jews to leave Germany intensified. Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Reinhard Heydrich organized a new programme designed to encourage Jews to emigrate. Crystal Night took place on 9th-10th November, 1938. Presented as a spontaneous reaction of the German people to the news that a German diplomat had been murdered by a young Jewish refugee in Paris, the whole event was in fact organized by the NSDAP.

The British government were still uncertain about signing a military agreement with the Soviet Union, and while they hesitated Germany stepped in and signed one instead. The Nazi-Soviet Pact took the world by surprise. Fascists and communists had always been enemies. However, both Hitler and Stalin were opportunists who were willing to compromise for short-term gain.

Hilter have a very very long history.
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oh...

Japan dropped the bomb on Pearl Harbor
and then Congress declared war on Japan...

Franklin D. Roosevelt, the democrat, started WWII and Truman the Democrat Vice President, ended it.

So WWII was Democrat war.

Also... USA helped U.K. to get rid of Adolf Hitler.


At the start of the Second World War, President Franklin D. Roosevelt announced the intention of the United States to remain neutral. Roosevelt was personally hostile to Hitler's Nazi dictatorship but he was aware that the American people had no desire to become involved in the war. However, Roosevelt did arrange for Britain to receive supplies and loans that enabled her to continue fighting the war.

Hitler believed that he would eventually be forced to fight the United States but he wanted to make sure that he controlled Europe before that happened. He gave strict instructions that German submarines should avoid firing on ships that were likely to be carrying American passengers. He also attempted to persuade his Japanese allies to attack the Soviet Union and to leave the United States alone. They ignored Hitler's advice and on December 7, 1941, the Japanese Air Force attacked Pearl Harbor and declared war on the United States.


Hitler, who had not been told of Japanese plans, was furious at first that the United States had been dragged into the war. Hitler, who had previously called the Japanese "honorary Aryans" claimed that this is what happens what your allies are not Anglo-Saxons.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared war on Japan but did not mention Germany in his speech. It was still possible for Hitler to postpone the war with the United States but he decided to honour his treaty obligations with Japan, and on December 11 announced that Germany was at war with the United States. Once again he became a victim of his own prejudice. Hitler claimed that America had been "corrupted by Jewish and African blood" and would be no match for Aryans.
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November 1940, Japan prepared to attack Pearl Harbor.
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At the start of the Second World War, President Franklin D. Roosevelt announced the intention of the United States to remain neutral. Roosevelt was personally hostile to Hitler's Nazi dictatorship but he was aware that the American people had no desire to become involved in the war. However, Roosevelt did arrange for Britain to receive supplies and loans that enabled her to continue fighting the war.

Hitler believed that he would eventually be forced to fight the United States but he wanted to make sure that he controlled Europe before that happened. He gave strict instructions that German submarines should avoid firing on ships that were likely to be carrying American passengers. He also attempted to persuade his Japanese allies to attack the Soviet Union and to leave the United States alone. They ignored Hitler's advice and on December 7, 1941, the Japanese Air Force attacked Pearl Harbor and declared war on the United States.


Hitler, who had not been told of Japanese plans, was furious at first that the United States had been dragged into the war. Hitler, who had previously called the Japanese "honorary Aryans" claimed that this is what happens what your allies are not Anglo-Saxons.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared war on Japan but did not mention Germany in his speech. It was still possible for Hitler to postpone the war with the United States but he decided to honour his treaty obligations with Japan, and on December 11 announced that Germany was at war with the United States. Once again he became a victim of his own prejudice. Hitler claimed that America had been "corrupted by Jewish and African blood" and would be no match for Aryans.

Not just Jewish people.

Hitler starved and killed Soviet P.O.W. soldiers.
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What is this mean....


"Germany's motive for the the war was avenging the perceived humiliation suffered in 1919 at the Treaty of Versailles at the end of World War I and pursuing the Nazi plan of creating a vast German empire across Europe in which inferior races would be elliminated, such as as Jews, Slavs, and Poles all to be replaced by the Germans of the so-called "Aryan Race"."


Why Hitler hates Jewish, Poles, and Slavs?
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Gavrilo Princip, a Serbian (July 25, 1894 – April 28, 1918) was an ethnic Serb, but later proclaimed to be a Yugoslav Nationalist, with links to a group known as the Mlada Bosna, who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914. The event was the catalyst for the Austria-Hungarian action against the Kingdom of Serbia that led to World War I.

So if Gavrilo Princip was born in 1894 and he kiled an Archduke and wife in
1914....

Then he was 20 years old.

That kid started World War I and II ..... Billion of people died because of him?
That is dumb.

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(Mlada Bosna)Young Bosnia movement was a group made up of Serbs, Croats, and Bosnian Muslims, committed to the independence of the South Slavic peoples from Austria-Hungary.
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So Muslims started WWI and WWII...

Young men, 8 of them... Young Bosnia group.

Kind of like De Ja Vu...

How many guys hijacked the planes during 9/11? 19

And there are Al Qaeda in Bosnia

Anyway...

Enough study for one day.

Wait wait wait... Hitler hated and mad at Slav cause of these Young Bosnia...
So okay...

So now I will try and see why he hated Poles and Jewish people.
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Germans (Hitler) and Poland were fighting over the land Danzig (Gdansk).


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1933 Mar 6, Poland occupied free city Danzig (Gdansk).


1934 Jan 26, Germany signed a 10-year non-aggression pact with Poland, breaking the French alliance system.


1935 Aug 7, In Danzig (Gdansk) 60% of voters agreed to Nazism


1938 Nov 26, Poland renewed a non-aggression pact with the USSR to protect against a German invasion.


1939 Mar 21, Nazi Germany demanded Gdansk (Danzig) from Poland.


1939 Mar 31, Britain and France agreed to support Poland if Germany threatened to invade. Seven French islands were annexed by Japan.


1939 Apr 6, Great Britain and Poland signed a military pact.


1939 Apr 28, Hitler claimed the German-Polish non-attack treaty to be still in effect.


1939 May 23, Hitler proclaimed he wants to move into Poland.


1939 Aug 23, German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop and Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs Vyacheslav M. Molotov signed a Treaty of Non-Aggression, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact freeing Hitler to invade Poland and Stalin to invade Finland. Secret protocols, made public years later, were added that assigned Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Bessarabia to be within the Soviet sphere of influence. Poland was partitioned along the rivers Narev, Vistula and San. Germany retained Lithuania enlarged by the inclusion of Vilnius. Just days after the signing, Germany invaded Poland, and by the end of September, both powers had claimed sections of Poland.


1939 Aug 25, Britain and France signed a treaty with Poland promising military assistance should the Germans invade.


1939 Aug 27, Nazi Germany demanded Danzig and Polish corridor.


1939 Aug 31, There was a staged "Polish" assault on radio station in Gleiwitz by Nazis dressed as Poles to "provoke" war, an excuse for Germany to invade Poland the next day to start World War II.


1939 Sep, 1, 4:40 a.m., World War II began. The Germans attacked Poland with their strategy of Blitzkrieg, or lightning war. The war started at dawn with salvos from the cruiser Schleswig-Holstein at the Polish garrison in (Danzig) Gdansk.


1939 Sep 4, German troops stormed into Danzig (Gdansk).



1939 Sep 8, Gen. Von Reichenau's panzer division reached the suburbs of Warsaw.


1939 Sep 9, Nazi army reached Warsaw.


1939 Sep 15, The Polish submarine Orzel arrived in Tallinn, Estonia, after escaping the German invasion of Poland.


1939 Sep 17, The Soviet Union attacked Poland, more than two weeks after Nazi Germany launched its assault. They took 217,000 Poles prisoner and occupied eastern Poland within a week with losses of 737 dead and 2,000 wounded. The Polish submarine Orzel escaped from internment and went on to fight the Germans against long odds.


1939 Sep 27, Germany occupied Warsaw. Poland surrendered after 19 days of resistance to invading forces from Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Poland had endured a brutal 3 day bombing campaign by the German Luftwaffe.
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Not just Jewish people.

Hitler starved and killed Soviet P.O.W. soldiers.
I never said just only jewish people he killed many people of different race and religons and handicap too. Remember Hiliter is a crazy person and he done so much pain. But glad that americans and England and Italy help fight that war and won. If Hilter taken over the world, which he almost did, we would be in serious trouble if he try to take over the world. But Lucky we americans always believe we fight back no matter what.
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