Dixie

Told him to get fuck out, 6 months later I had saved up the money to start drawing up the divorce papers it was finalized in October 2004. Once I kicked him out that was the end of it, he wasnt coming back. I had put up with his shit for 9 months, that was plenty for me.

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Deafilmedia

I tried to...

I realize that men are just like me.... a human being who being so unfair.

We are big Manipulators...

I can see why a big headed Preacher chose this woman Mary cause
she let him manipulate her.

I don't want a boyfriend to bully me around.

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Deafilmedia

The highly reputation preacher was probably mentally and emotionally abusing her.... bad mouthed her... pulling down her self esteem....
manipulating her....

And she felt divorce him... that would make her look bad as
a church first lady.

A preacher wife can't go to friends and relatives.... cause
their marriage has to be perfect... nobody should knows that
they have problem.

My mom went to church here in Memphis... and found out
her preacher and his wife are divorcing...
Many members left that church...


So if Mary Wrinkler divorced her husband....
then her husband won't have a job, cause church members will leave
And.... she needs money to feed her children.

So you have to walk a mile in her shoes...

Her mental state... what can she do?

She just ended up having a rifle in her hands at the wrong time.

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Gamer12

she murdered her husband. and we should've praised her for being a good christian for not leaving or divorcing her husband? right.

Deafilmedia

I think she said it accidently went off...

She was just trying to tell him to STOP...

She said STOP.

When she said STOP, she means.... Stop abusing her.

She didn't mean to kill him. She just wanted to scare him.



Wife who shot preacher guilty of manslaughter - CNN.com

Freeland told jurors that Mary Winkler showed her intentions when she went to a bedroom closet, got a 12-gauge, pump-action shotgun and pointed it at her husband.

The gun did not go off on its own, he said during closing arguments Wednesday night, calling the defendant's version of events "ludicrous."

The defense portrayed Mary Winkler as a victim of physical, sexual and psychological abuse who shot her husband by accident during an argument.

Defense attorney Steve Farese said prosecutors did not prove Winkler fired intentionally. But during his closing argument he left open the possibility she might be guilty of a lesser charge.

"Have they proven any crime? Well -- and this is hard for me to say -- maybe," Farese said. "Maybe she was negligent.".

Some of the jurors wept when the Winklers' oldest daughter, Patricia, testified for the prosecution about her father's slaying. The 9-year-old said she heard a loud boom and a thump. When she ran into the bedroom, she saw her father's body lying on the floor.

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Gamer12

10 years of marriage. she has plenty of chances to leave him. and show me where she said it accidently went off. she just said she didn't recall pulling the trigger.

Deafilmedia

I did post it above you.

She said the gun went off by itself.

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Gamer12

the shotgun went off by itself? how? either way, she lied or her lawyer is a 'tard.

bbnt

I'm glad he is dead, I think we should dig him up and
shoot him again

Deafilmedia

Why you hate women so much?

Did some women hurt you so bad?

Everybody are not cold hearted evil.

You know how it is.... when people argue and fight... things got out of control.

Have you ever been in an arguement or in a fight, you just do
STUPID thing and regret it?

Nobody is perfect.

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Gamer12

darn it, you got me! i do hate women!!111oneoneone. that's why i have my other half. that's why i went out with numerous women in the past. now, don't try to get off-subject here. i want to know how shotgun went off by itself.

deafilmedia, don't think you can fool me. i know what you're trying to do. off-subjecting and trying to push our buttons. for your own information, the game you're playing does not work on me. i see through the game you're playing with us.

Gamer12

i wish she hadn't murdered him. i'd rather have him shipped to gitmo and have our interrogators showed him some demonstration of how fundamentalist christians would do to innocent homosexuals. death is too good for him.

Deafilmedia

Oh you hate your mother?

I guess YES.

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Deafilmedia

That isn't true about Christians did to homosexuals.

While we are at it... what about your WHITE ANCESTORS
who bring slaves here tortureing us, chain us up.

AND oh the poor INDIANS, you live here on their lands.... why don't you leave and go back to Europe...

Oh yeah... like you WHITE people are so innocent.....

We don't even have a Black President... I bet you don't ever vote
for Black leader for Mayor, Governor and all...
Right?

Oh yeah you HATE WOMEN!!! oh you're such HATER. You ain't gonna
vote for Hillary? Huh? Huh?

Oh Homosexuals went to jail poor Homi... put
that Mary Wrinkle in jail cause she is a WOMAN.... ahhh!!!

So don't be going against Christians, YOU HYPPPPPPOOOCRITE!!!


Sorry... off topic.

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Gamer12

so you confessed that it's rather silly that the shotgun went off by itself too? thank you for agreeing with me on this.

evidently -- prior to your second post -- that you're antagonized by my previous response. good. it's no use to discuss this further with you. i'm fairly certain you know why. your mental illness and all that.

jillio

Yes, you can come up with logical solutions when you are in a logical frame of mind. Unfortunately, there is a syndrome known as "Battered Woman Syndrome" and fear combined with constant abuse and degradation results in an inability to think clearly and logically, the same as with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. Unless you have been in an abusive situation for an extended period of time, it is difficult to imagine the mental anguish these women go through. It is very easy to sit on the other side and say, "She should have just left!"

In addition, many women who end up in abusive relationships come from an abusive family, and their self exteem is so low that they actually believe that they are responsible for being abused.....that they deserve to be beaten and humiliated.

jillio

I'd say her lawyer was pretty darn smart. She isn't doing prison time, is she?

Gamer12

Yes, you can come up with logical solutions when you are in a logical frame of mind. Unfortunately, there is a syndrome known as "Battered Woman Syndrome" and fear combined with constant abuse and degradation results in an inability to think clearly and logically, the same as with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. Unless you have been in an abusive situation for an extended period of time, it is difficult to imagine the mental anguish these women go through. It is very easy to sit on the other side and say, "She should have just left!"

i've heard, studied and read about it but still. what if the situation were reversed? i'm fairly certain that preacher will be prosecuted to the fullest extend. 30 years to lifetime at least.

In addition, many women who end up in abusive relationships come from an abusive family, and their self exteem is so low that they actually believe that they are responsible for being abused.....that they deserve to be beaten and humiliated.

there is no argument from me about that.

Gamer12

or justice is blind as they had always said.

Deafilmedia

I never said you're wrong.

I was just saying that you don't need to HATE all women...
because I am not like those women you met in person.

My Aunt threatened to leave her husband, he put a rifle in her face.

I don't hate men. I just think Men deserve better, because I
am ugly and I like men...

And it really hurts that you hate me because I am a female...

If you met me in person, you would like me... I would be your good
friend and all...

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Gamer12

i can see that you have failed two things --

1) detecting sarcasm in my posts
2) reading comprehension

Deafilmedia

I wasn't there at the crime scene.

I didn't say you were wrong or right.

All I said was she need to go to jail cause she killed a human being...
self defense or not.

And yes it is wrong to kill someone.

And I was saying that the Law is stupid and our Legal system sucks.

And yes people feel sorry for women... because women went
through so much... and it is yall men fault for being so aggressive
toward women in the first place.

And all your hate toward women only make things worst.

Why not find you a sweet woman who will kiss your feet and
prove to everyone that you're a GENTLEMAN.

I met a BEAUTIFUL WOMAN.... she is so sweet...
I was surprise, I thought she was going to be mean...
But she isn't. She was so beautiful inside and outside...
And when I went to somewhere I ain't suppose to, she
got so concerned...
She doesn't have a boyfriend cause she doesn't want to be hurt...
Her ex boyfriend cheated on her. He got another woman pregnant.
And she isn't a bitch at all.

Maybe you need to find someone like that...
I met her at Paris.... maybe you should go to Paris and find girls out there.

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ZiNg31

Yer wrong about this. Divorce is other way to stop this. When her husband continues abusive.. then all she can do is be patient and be nice and do what husband says or wish until he is gone for the day then she call cop to come over to protect her while she can get her things and move out and then have the court and police take care between them. This is a way to get out so everyone would be still alive. Men might abuse because of his past history as a child from parents or bullies or whatever. There's always reason why they act like this. This woman stayed and decided to kill her husband thinking it is only way to stop this that is bad choice and a man has died and will never see his kids' future at all. Abusive people can change after getting help. Like for example people at church ... they had bad past and they asked for forgiveness from God and had a new life changed. So people can change.

Deafilmedia

some people don't want to divorce. I think she loved him too much
to let him go. maybe he was going to leave her.

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Lavender

Once kill is better than suffer.

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jillio

Those are the mitigating arguments that the court takes into consideration when they render a decision.

We don't know what would have happened if the situation was reversed.