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Old 07-11-2007, 06:18 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Yeah not all men are warriors, okay. Just that we have to live men's rule for thousand years. Some of them were not so pretty to live by.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:20 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Yeah not all men are warriors, okay. Just that we have to live men's rule for thousand years. Some of them were not so pretty to live by.
Yeah I understand what you mean, we have been ruled by men for many years. Maybe Hilary Clinton would be the first woman would ever rule us?
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:07 PM   #93 (permalink)
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This prove that my uncle wasn't lying at all. Yupp the government are keeping the draft alive as their "case". I was forced to resigster for the armies, but lucky that I can't be draft because I was deaf....
Hello? Did you read that link? It does NOT say there is a draft.

NO ONE HAS BEEN DRAFTED BY THE USA SINCE 1973!

"In 1973, the draft ended and the U.S. converted to an All-Volunteer military."
History of the Draft

"The last man inducted entered the Army on June 30, 1973."
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Hello? Did you read that link? It does NOT say there is a draft.

NO ONE HAS BEEN DRAFTED BY THE USA SINCE 1973!

"In 1973, the draft ended and the U.S. converted to an All-Volunteer military."
History of the Draft

"The last man inducted entered the Army on June 30, 1973."
Selective Service System: History and Records
Then why I was force to resigter on the selective service system?
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Then why I was force to resigter on the selective service system?
You still have to register for Selective Service but no one has been drafted since 1973.
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You still have to register for Selective Service but no one has been drafted since 1973.
Ahh I get it.
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Oh, my gosh.. Reba have already had stated the facts numerous of times. She is correct. LOL.....

I don't believe I have wasted several hours reading the entire link. I have recognized the link before and it was also listed on Wikipedia footnote. LOL even though I am anti-Wikipedia. That site fails to address whether there has been a draft. The site provides only on the history and the possibility of IF the U.S. congress and U.S. president both authorize a draft. I find it amusing some of you jumped to conclusions quickly first without reading the entire link carefully. That's the act of propagandism. Do you know what that means? The aim of propagandism is to influence people's opinions or behaviors actively, rather than merely to read and communciate the facts about crap.

FACT: Currently, there is NO draft.

By the federal law, it takes both U.S. Congress and U.S. President to authorize the draft fully. It means the U.S. Congress have the power to authorize the draft first, then they have to send the authorized paper to the U.S. president for his approval. I don't mean it literally. If the president is Trump. *imitates Trump* "You're vetoed!" There ya go. No draft.

Occasionally, I do get letters from USMC, Navy, Army, and AF. By the federal law, all male US citizens are required to register with Selective Service when they turn 18. But there is CURRENTLY NO DRAFT. The Selective Service won't let me join because I am not enough to be 5 foot 10 Xena. Believe it or not, Women are excluded for many reasons. Maybe I will start chanting and waving my flaming bra. Just kidding!! If I am hearing, I would enlist Air Force.

PuyoPiyo,

Do not worry. If you're hearing, they will never draft you in the first place because there has been no authorized draft nor will be in the near future. You already have registered with Selective Service means you also received the rights to get any kind of federal loans like student loans, eligible for any federal programs, including welfare or assistance. That's what the federal law is for. If you want to join WILLINGLY in the armed forces, all you have to do is ENLIST willingly. That is a VOLUNTARY act.

Many people have a bad habit of not reading, researching and pondering first before they make decisions WILLINGLY whether or not they will want to enlist.
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Oh, my gosh.. Reba have already had stated the facts numerous of times. She is correct. LOL.....

I don't believe I have wasted several hours reading the entire link. I have recognized the link before and it was also listed on Wikipedia footnote. LOL even though I am anti-Wikipedia. That site fails to address whether there has been a draft. The site provides only on the history and the possibility of IF the U.S. congress and U.S. president both authorize a draft. I find it amusing some of you jumped to conclusions quickly first without reading the entire link carefully. That's the act of propagandism. Do you know what that means? The aim of propagandism is to influence people's opinions or behaviors actively, rather than merely to read and communciate the facts about crap.

FACT: Currently, there is NO draft.

By the federal law, it takes both U.S. Congress and U.S. President to authorize the draft fully. It means the U.S. Congress have the power to authorize the draft first, then they have to send the authorized paper to the U.S. president for his approval. I don't mean it literally. If the president is Trump. *imitates Trump* "You're vetoed!" There ya go. No draft.

Occasionally, I do get letters from USMC, Navy, Army, and AF. By the federal law, all male US citizens are required to register with Selective Service when they turn 18. But there is CURRENTLY NO DRAFT. The Selective Service won't let me join because I am not enough to be 5 foot 10 Xena. Believe it or not, Women are excluded for many reasons. Maybe I will start chanting and waving my flaming bra. Just kidding!! If I am hearing, I would enlist Air Force.

PuyoPiyo,

Do not worry. If you're hearing, they will never draft you in the first place because there has been no authorized draft nor will be in the near future. You already have registered with Selective Service means you also received the rights to get any kind of federal loans like student loans, eligible for any federal programs, including welfare or assistance. That's what the federal law is for. If you want to join WILLINGLY in the armed forces, all you have to do is ENLIST willingly. That is a VOLUNTARY act.

Many people have a bad habit of not reading, researching and pondering first before they make decisions WILLINGLY whether or not they will want to enlist.
Yeah, you are right all the way. Nobody was drafted, but the government do keep the draft system alive as in case when need. Being honestly, (goes point to this thread), I wish the war is not exist..
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Yeah, you are right all the way. Nobody was drafted, but the government do keep the draft system alive as in case when need. Being honestly, (goes point to this thread), I wish the war is not exist..
I imagine if nobody have experience in war until space alien attack us. That would be truly end of the world.

how sad...
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I imagine if nobody have experience in war until space alien attack us. That would be truly end of the world.

how sad...
No, I mean there is no war in the universe, they don't exist, even alien don't know what war is. That is what I mean, and wished for.
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Barbaro, do you really beleive this? I say no more further.
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Barbaro, do you really beleive this? I say no more further.
It is true, no draft since early 70's. But that can change if congress vote to change and bring idraft back.
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It is true, no draft since early 70's.
Yes I know.

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See those example:

10 Ways to Protect Your Child From the ASVAB - by Dr. Teresa Whitehurst

Universal National Service Act of 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A lot of solider sign the contract volunarily and then found out that´s not what they thought and want to get out of Army. Accord their agreement contract, they cannot get out of Army until contract is end then... They will get punishment by goverment if they "break" the agreement contract. It look like a force.

Some soliders have to stick until their contracts are end.. .Unfortunlately, they feel being betray by government... example: Few months before their contracts end, they were being demand to go Iraq war and extend their contract. What is this?

The hot rumors at my work that the government plans to have draft back... I am not surprised about this because they KNOW a lot of soliders refused to go to Iraq war.
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No, I mean there is no war in the universe, they don't exist, even alien don't know what war is. That is what I mean, and wished for.
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A lot of solider sign the contract volunarily and then found out that´s not what they thought and want to get out of Army. Accord their agreement contract, they cannot get out of Army until contract is end then... They will get punishment by goverment if they "break" the agreement contract. It look like a force.

We already knew if we sign up for it then we have to stay till contract is done unless u become disabled then they will discharge u . It does not make sense if they did not know they can get in trouble if they went awol.

Some soliders have to stick until their contracts are end.. .Unfortunlately, they feel being betray by government... example: Few months before their contracts end, they were being demand to go Iraq war and extend their contract. What is this?

I have no idea about this except my neice spend 8 years in AF then when Iraq war started she finished her duty and left AF. It goes same with her husband after spend few months in Afghan then soon after he reitred.. All I know those men and women who went to Iraq made good money. One guy who stop by here to visit us once awhile, he is friend of our son, is joining reserved national guard next week and he already knew the risk but he needs money to support his wife and two kids. He makes the choice.


The hot rumors at my work that the government plans to have draft back... I am not surprised about this because they KNOW a lot of soliders refused to go to Iraq war.
Only reason they may thinking about draft is because not enough men and women to join up but so far nothing happen and I think they have enough men and women in the service.
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Yeah, you are right all the way. Nobody was drafted, but the government do keep the draft system alive as in case when need. Being honestly, (goes point to this thread), I wish the war is not exist..
I like your line,"the government do keep the draft system alive as in case when need." You're creative, PuyoPiyo. Keep it up. I don't like the war, either.
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Read my statement again and think carefully, Ma'am. I stated "Many people have a bad habit of not reading, researching and pondering first before they make decisions WILLINGLY whether or not they will want to enlist."

It is extremely common they send recruiters to the schools and colleges to talk to them and convince them to enlist without saying anything about the contracts ALL THE TIME for YEARS. That's advertisement. We also see the armed forces commericals on the TVs, and newspapers ALL THE TIME. We already know for YEARS that the recruiters will say anything to get them to ENLIST. The problem is People do NOT know how to research carefully first before they enlist and sign the contracts. We all know that once you know the circumstances of the armed forces system that is already screwed up. But if you don't care about the way the system runs, you decide to enlist and sign the contracts anyway. Bam! The government owns you. If you want to get out, you can't because of the contracts. That's the way it works. People just don't BOTHER to research first before they make decisions to enlist or not. Plain and Simple. They don't know how to use common sense. They need to learn to ASK the questions before they enlist. Easy. Really.

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Universal National Service Act of 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ma'am, That's old news. The bill has been brought up three times for four years and always fuels false RUMORS. They are political stunts! It is NOT the first time that Congressman Charles Rangel brought up the draft bill. He is even a democrat. He is the one who keeps bringing the draft back to the Congress for FOUR YEARS. The American people absolutely despise him.

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In 2003, Democrat Congressman Charles Rangel pulled the political stunt when he himself brought the Universal National Service Act of 2003 bill to the U.S. House. The whole U.S. House laughed at him and it took 402 VOTES to say NAY! Congressman Charles Rangel ALSO VOTED AGAINST HIS OWN BILL. There were only TWO dudes said AYE! The bill went down in the toliet. *flushs*

The reason why Congressman Charles Rengel pulled the stunt is because he is anti-war and wanted to SCARE psychologically the crap out of the American people that the draft COULD happen, which it NEVER happens literally. The political term's called "Scare Campaign". That's why and how it ENCOURAGES the young American people and parents to become paranoid and start researching the enlistment contracts and everything first BEFORE they enlist. That is the act of propandagism.

That crazy Congressman Charles Rangel absolutely never gives up. He keeps riling up the American people all the time. That's how the rumors spread like a brushfire. Those people don't know how to shut up when they don't bother to separate the facts from rumors first.

When the rumors died for brief, He decided to bring up that the Universal National Service Act of 2006 AGAIN to FUEL more false RUMORS to scare the people more. It was not even debated in the Congress. US Media even didn't mention it. That bill had gone nowhere.

Now, This is his THIRD attempt to bring back the Universal National Service Act of 2007 AGAIN. That's how the politicians (some of them are lawyers) enjoy manipulating and misleading the public and the military. That's why your soldiers at work keep gossiping about false rumors and start worrying and don't bother to pay attentions to the facts. Why do you think some don't bother to research the contracts first before they enlisted? They're still ignorant the whole time and don't bother to look up the facts.

I predict the U.S. House and Charles Rangel would vote NAY again The U.S. House is going to have to clean the toliet again, so they can flush the Universal National Service Act of 2007 bill down the toliet. What a waste of money.

Hey, Charles Rangel! We do not want to see the sighting of your phony draft bills again. We already know that for YEARS and damn it, just stop bringing up your phony bills, quit voting against your own bills constantly and waste our tax payers' money and time. Stop spreading false rumors all the time when we have already know that the whole DC strongly oppose the draft the whole time.

The only possibility i can see of a draft is if something HUGE happens.

Pork bills is one of my pet peeves.
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Barbaro - Yes, I saw that on T.V. I cannot believe it.

Charles Rangel is a real jerk, and he wasted a lot of our money big times. We need to get him out of his office permanently.
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Only reason they may thinking about draft is because not enough men and women to join up but so far nothing happen and I think they have enough men and women in the service.
well, kinda.

The Air Force, Navy and Marines are at or above their goals for each year.

The Army is not at their goals, people don't want to sign up for the army or they are signing up but not enough people, from my understanding.

That's the problem.

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I think that you might want to check this out about bad companies in South America. You will get the idea what is all about.

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Then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Barbaro - Yes, I saw that on T.V. I cannot believe it.

Charles Rangel is a real jerk, and he wasted a lot of our money big times. We need to get him out of his office permanently.
Yes, Charles Rangel is asinine. I have had peruse his third bill, Universal National Service Act of 2007 before and it was different than the other two bills. The bill is a joke. If you have any petition to recall him, I'd be happy to sign it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, I am not a NY resident.

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I think that you might want to check this out about bad companies in South America. You will get the idea what is all about.

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I have heard of Dr. John Perkins. Indeed, Bad companies exist globally. Honestly, I am no Hugo Chavez fan. John Perkins' book is highly controversial. Many people claim he had concocting the lies. I have read numerous comments whether the book is speculation nor is he making money off the book. The State Department had already stated its statement, calling the book, "misinformation". Even though my father worked with the State Department and USDA. But I have not read his book, so I'm not in the position to discuss it.

I am still praying for my friend's safety, her family and her friends in Caracas, Venezuela, since that menace Hugo Chavez had gone too far by shutting down the last private TV station. The TV station managed to send the info to Youtube.com. She also told me immediately after the incident, Hugo was suing CNN and taking it to the trial before the news broke out globally.

She and her brother are the only ones in the family who voted against Hugo Chavez twice. They knew the election was a scam, but couldn't prove it. Her family didn't want to vote because they fear for their lives. She had struggled to find a job because her name is on the black list. Actually, if you apply for a job, every employer has a free access to look up the black list to see if you're against Hugo Chavez or not. Luckily, she did find a job at a 5 star hotel because she speaks numerous languages. She is half English and cannot afford to go and reside in London. She and her brother except her family will be headed to São Paulo if it is imminent. Her friend is considering moving to the US, and probably will request for asylum.
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