Confederate Flag - Page 6

GarnetTigerMom · 04-14-2008, 12:17 AM

I am a "yankee" at heart, so I got the northern flag. :-)

Cowpuppy · 04-14-2008, 06:07 PM

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XBGMER · 04-14-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowpuppy

Do good germans wave the nazi flag and claim heritage????????
nope...the war's over....move on
the souths heritage is the U.S.A
civil war part of history....not todays heritage
I find the flag to be insulting to the rest of the U.S. and insulting to afro-amercans.
I can respect the confederacy of the past as part of out history.............but the way I see it displayed nowadays is always in a racist seccesionist desiring format.
It's history...let it be history...it is not heritage of today.
Do we fly the mexican flag as heritage after we took part of mexico???nope
it's all bunk

Co-sign, True!

pek1 · 04-18-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowpuppy

Do good germans wave the nazi flag and claim heritage????????
nope...the war's over....move on
the souths heritage is the U.S.A
civil war part of history....not todays heritage
I find the flag to be insulting to the rest of the U.S. and insulting to afro-amercans.
I can respect the confederacy of the past as part of out history.............but the way I see it displayed nowadays is always in a racist seccesionist desiring format.
It's history...let it be history...it is not heritage of today.
Do we fly the mexican flag as heritage after we took part of mexico???nope
it's all bunk

I concur!

Calvin · 06-06-2008, 02:41 AM

ABC News: Rebel Flag-Wavers Have Unlikely Backers

This one is a kind of overboard, since it's only a flag, and if they see you, they'll tell you that you won't show up to graduate. And the principal is black and decide to suspend the white students who bear the rebel flag on the truck, etc.

Confederate has been a controversy involving school for a long time and for some it involves racism. Unfortunately, a lot of people get the wrong idea what the Confederate flag represents

Cowpuppy · 06-07-2008, 11:46 PM

no offense....but we don't have the 'wrong idea' about what the nazi flag represents.....initially it represented the german army....time passed and it does not represent that anymore to anyone. Icon value can change over time.

DixieOverGA · 06-09-2008, 04:11 PM

It's Southern Heritage, NOT Hate.

I am the Confederate Flag of America.
I was born in 1861. I represented many Americans of which were many colors, contrary to modern day beliefs. I am hated by people who don’t know me or what I stood for. I was not designed as a hate object, though many people look at me this way today. I was not born to represent white sheets and shaved heads.
I was designed to support state rights and soldiers who wore gray. So don’t hate me because of what certain groups have used me for. Just remember at some point in time I represented each and every one of you, because I was an American symbol, and represented you, no matter what race you are.
I am the Confederate Flag of America.

P.S. yall haters need a history lesson.

Byrdie714 · 06-09-2008, 05:08 PM

Then please explain why that according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols?

Must be real proud of that.

The American flag isn't.

Foxrac · 06-09-2008, 05:37 PM

Yup, that right about confederate flag can be southern heritage or southern pride, however it does offend to most african americans, that what I noticed when I was in southeast USA, also currently in south for this week. This flag isn't bother me, even alot of normal southerners (non-redneck) are use this flag for proud of southern or proud of heritage. I'm considering about move back to south in this fall or so.

DixieOverGA · 06-09-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Then please explain why that according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols?

Must be real proud of that.

The American flag isn't.

Obviously you didnt read my post carefully... so I ll just narrow it down and clarify it for your lazy and stubborn pride.

I am hated by people who don’t know me or what I stood for. I was not designed as a hate object, though many people look at me this way today. I was not born to represent white sheets and shaved heads.

So don’t hate me because of what certain groups have used me for.

Speaking of extremist groups, they were the "certain groups" that used the flag for the wrong purpose.

Big Deal

jenni-m · 06-09-2008, 08:38 PM

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Oh, and by the way. A lot of racists fly the Union (USA) flag too.
Probably more than ones that fly the CSA flag.

So if the CSA flag is a symbol of racism, then the USA flag must be one by association.

Err wait a minute... our country's flag is special, we can't allow it to be picked on in such a way... right? But since no sovereign country exists that actually flies the CSA flag, people can pick on it all they want.

DixieOverGA · 06-09-2008, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenni-m

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Oh, and by the way. A lot of racists fly the Union (USA) flag too.
Probably more than ones that fly the CSA flag.

So if the CSA flag is a symbol of racism, then the USA flag must be one by association.

Err wait a minute... our country's flag is special, we can't allow it to be picked on in such a way... right? But since no sovereign country exists that actually flies the CSA flag, people can pick on it all they want.

There you go!!!

Byrdie714 · 06-09-2008, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DixieOverGA

Obviously you didnt read my post carefully... so I ll just narrow it down and clarify it for your lazy and stubborn pride.

I am hated by people who don’t know me or what I stood for. I was not designed as a hate object, though many people look at me this way today. I was not born to represent white sheets and shaved heads.

So don’t hate me because of what certain groups have used me for.

Speaking of extremist groups, they were the "certain groups" that used the flag for the wrong purpose.

Big Deal

Then why have this object representing you then if you don't want people to think that you are a racist?

Guilt by association--you've heard of that haven't you?

(Frankly I really don't care but am interested in this debate....

)

Foxrac · 06-09-2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Then why have this object representing you then if you don't want people to think that you are a racist?

Guilt by association--you've heard of that haven't you?

(Frankly I really don't care but am interested in this debate....

)

If you visit southeast states then you will understand about confederate flag and southern culture.

jenni-m · 06-09-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Then why have this object representing you then if you don't want people to think that you are a racist?

Guilt by association--you've heard of that haven't you?

(Frankly I really don't care but am interested in this debate....

)

Did you see my post above?

There are many people who feel non-white races have no place in the United States of Amercia, and they fly the US flag to represent themselves.

So therefore, by your very own theory, since the CS flag is used by some racists as their symbol, and the US flag is used by some racists as their symbol also (some times alongside the CS flag...) then BOTH should be symbols of racism. But our USA flag is not. We keep the USA flag 'sacred', going so far as to create rules as to how it shall be flown.

A convenient discrepancy, don't you think?

SCBassist · 06-09-2008, 09:57 PM

Proud of my South Carolina heritage!

Byrdie714 · 06-09-2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenni-m

Did you see my post above?

There are many people who feel non-white races have no place in the United States of Amercia, and they fly the US flag to represent themselves.

So therefore, by your very own theory, since the CS flag is used by some racists as their symbol, and the US flag is used by some racists as their symbol also (some times alongside the CS flag...) then BOTH should be symbols of racism. But our USA flag is not. We keep the USA flag 'sacred', going so far as to create rules as to how it shall be flown.

A convenient discrepancy, don't you think?

Nope.

You lost the war, fair-n-square!

DixieOverGA · 06-09-2008, 11:56 PM

Byrdie, just relax... it's not the end of the world.

First of all, its the idiots who think Im a racist.

Secondly, I really dont give a shit what others think of me.

And last, please dont be a drama queen claiming you won the war... that is really immature.

Just go find something else you SUPPORT and take PRIDE in. Find your own flag and stfu.

Byrdie714 · 06-10-2008, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DixieOverGA

Byrdie, just relax... it's not the end of the world.

First of all, its the idiots who think Im a racist.

Secondly, I really dont give a shit what others think of me.

And last, please dont be a drama queen claiming you won the war... that is really immature.

Just go find something else you SUPPORT and take PRIDE in. Find your own flag and stfu.

I do. Just don't shove your Dixie waving flag around saying you want respect for your section of the country.

Last time I checked the map there is no CSA--it's USA--fly it's flag!

People who wave the Dixie flag just want to divide this country, not keep it united.

Texan Guy · 06-10-2008, 12:26 AM

If Obama won the presidential election.

The southern states will be divide from the USA and McCain will be our second CSA president.

Just kidding.

Foxrac · 06-10-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texan Guy

If Obama won the presidential election.

The southern states will be divide from the USA and McCain will be our second CSA president.

Just kidding.

DixieOverGA · 06-10-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

I do. Just don't shove your Dixie waving flag around saying you want respect for your section of the country.

Last time I checked the map there is no CSA--it's USA--fly it's flag!

People who wave the Dixie flag just want to divide this country, not keep it united.

DixieOverGA · 06-10-2008, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texan Guy

If Obama won the presidential election.

The southern states will be divide from the USA and McCain will be our second CSA president.

Just kidding.

YES... and imagine a second civil war for sure.

Foxrac · 06-10-2008, 12:38 AM

Hey Byrdie, there's surprise for ya.

I would wonders you will feel so good when you move to south.

Cheri · 06-10-2008, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byrdie714

I do. Just don't shove your Dixie waving flag around saying you want respect for your section of the country.

Last time I checked the map there is no CSA--it's USA--fly it's flag!

People who wave the Dixie flag just want to divide this country, not keep it united.

I agreed. Confederate flag means one thing, slavery and racism. And I read back then about some students that got suspended for waving Confederate flags in school. They deserved the suspension.

View Poll Results: What does Confederate Rebel Flag means to you?
A symbol of Civil War History	22	24.18%
A symbol of racist	24	26.37%
A symbol of Heritage (Civil War Veteran Generation)	40	43.96%
Others - please specify	5	5.49%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

04-14-2008, 12:17 AM	#151 (permalink)
GarnetTigerMom Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,900	I am a "yankee" at heart, so I got the northern flag. :-) __________________ GarnetTigerMom "The rain may be falling hard outside, But your smile makes it all alright. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I know our friendship will never end." -- Robert Alan

06-06-2008, 02:41 AM	#155 (permalink)
Calvin Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: California Posts: 1,792	No Graduation for Confederate Flag-wavers ABC News: Rebel Flag-Wavers Have Unlikely Backers This one is a kind of overboard, since it's only a flag, and if they see you, they'll tell you that you won't show up to graduate. And the principal is black and decide to suspend the white students who bear the rebel flag on the truck, etc. Confederate has been a controversy involving school for a long time and for some it involves racism. Unfortunately, a lot of people get the wrong idea what the Confederate flag represents __________________

06-09-2008, 05:37 PM	#159 (permalink)
Foxrac o_O Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14,350	Yup, that right about confederate flag can be southern heritage or southern pride, however it does offend to most african americans, that what I noticed when I was in southeast USA, also currently in south for this week. This flag isn't bother me, even alot of normal southerners (non-redneck) are use this flag for proud of southern or proud of heritage. I'm considering about move back to south in this fall or so. __________________ God bless America

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Cowpuppy Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On The Road Again Posts: 375	no offense....but we don't have the 'wrong idea' about what the nazi flag represents.....initially it represented the german army....time passed and it does not represent that anymore to anyone. Icon value can change over time.

06-09-2008, 04:11 PM	#157 (permalink)
DixieOverGA Silver Bullet Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Buford, GA Posts: 38	It's Southern Heritage, NOT Hate. I am the Confederate Flag of America. I was born in 1861. I represented many Americans of which were many colors, contrary to modern day beliefs. I am hated by people who don’t know me or what I stood for. I was not designed as a hate object, though many people look at me this way today. I was not born to represent white sheets and shaved heads. I was designed to support state rights and soldiers who wore gray. So don’t hate me because of what certain groups have used me for. Just remember at some point in time I represented each and every one of you, because I was an American symbol, and represented you, no matter what race you are. I am the Confederate Flag of America. P.S. yall haters need a history lesson.

06-09-2008, 05:08 PM	#158 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pacific County, Washington Posts: 5,163	Then please explain why that according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols? Must be real proud of that. The American flag isn't.

06-09-2008, 08:38 PM	#161 (permalink)
jenni-m Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 598	"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Oh, and by the way. A lot of racists fly the Union (USA) flag too. Probably more than ones that fly the CSA flag. So if the CSA flag is a symbol of racism, then the USA flag must be one by association. Err wait a minute... our country's flag is special, we can't allow it to be picked on in such a way... right? But since no sovereign country exists that actually flies the CSA flag, people can pick on it all they want.

06-09-2008, 11:56 PM	#168 (permalink)
DixieOverGA Silver Bullet Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Buford, GA Posts: 38	Byrdie, just relax... it's not the end of the world. First of all, its the idiots who think Im a racist. Secondly, I really dont give a shit what others think of me. And last, please dont be a drama queen claiming you won the war... that is really immature. Just go find something else you SUPPORT and take PRIDE in. Find your own flag and stfu.

06-10-2008, 12:26 AM	#170 (permalink)
Texan Guy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,784	If Obama won the presidential election. The southern states will be divide from the USA and McCain will be our second CSA president. Just kidding. __________________

06-10-2008, 12:38 AM	#174 (permalink)
Foxrac o_O Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14,350	Hey Byrdie, there's surprise for ya. I would wonders you will feel so good when you move to south. __________________ God bless America

06-10-2008, 12:58 AM	#176 (permalink)
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