Taylor

Liebling,
You bring up some excellent points but if I could disagree with one thing. One problem with teens today (as you and others have pointed out) is being naive. A young girl *thinks* she is in love and feels that she is in love. If a boy says 'I love you' to her, she takes it with all sincerity and will have sex with him. Unfortunately, to counter this is learned through life experience and isn't necessarily something that parents (or teachers) can. If a girl is 14 and a boy says "I Love You" it means the world to her. Take that same girl but she is 30, "I Love You" takes on a totally different meaning.

And unfortunately, the adults that go after young girls prey upon this. The whole "I will take care of you", "I have strong feelings for you", "I would never hurt you", "You mean the world to me". This is powerful stuff when an adult says it to a young girl, and adults use that as an advantage.

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Heath

Yeah Taylor, I watched somebody say that to a girl about 3 weeks ago and I told her that he was not being sincere at all after I walked up to him and told him to f*ck off and he left. He was a freelance carpnter with his own work truck. I know the girl's older sister and we grew up together.

I let her older sister know what was going on and she told her dad and her father is not too happy with that guy. I saw him say that to her at the pizza place where I was waiting on a small pizza for myself to pick up and take home to eat.

The girl is 14 and her older sister is 27 years old. The guy is 32 years old. I am 30 years old and I know much better than that.

The 14 yr. old girl still thinks he loves her

I would not be surprised if her father kills him if he keeps on trying to see his 14 yr. old daughter.

Oceanbreeze

I must say this is absolutely true.

When I was sixteen, I had a mad-crush on a guy. Ironically, it was a cop.

*ahem*

Anyway, as someone who had prior abuse in her life, it meant the *world* to me that this guy paid any attention to me at all. He was nice. He was curteous. He DIDN'T pressure me for anything I didn't want to do, but from an emotional standpoint, it was exactly like that. This guy made me feel special. He made me feel wanted. He made me feel loved, if you can call it that. I was sixteen, and I fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Looking back, I am quite lucky this guy was honorable. Otherwise, I could have been an victim again so easily. Just because I was SO very naive. I also had alot of emotional issues stemming from my abuse that would have made me easy prey.

Many times, kids aren't so lucky, and the "mad crush", or whomever, isn't honorable. That's how kids get hurt.

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SxyPorkie

Yeah I know what you mean... I went in same situation as you did...only that guy i had huge crush was not a cop... he was my teacher...he did not do anything further... we did necked... when he relocated to other state... he got caught and got fired... he was blacklisted .. cannot teach any school anywhere...

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Maria

Yeah, it is against the law. Statutory rape unless, it is consensual. It's up to the judge to decide on whether if, it is consensual or not.

Oceanbreeze

That bizarre! Because, the same thing happened in my situation. All we did was neck, too, but the guy I was crushing on ended up being asked to resign his post. I don't know the full story behind it. I never did know, but rumors were flying around that he was messing with other girls. Someone found out, and they reported him. Nothing was ever really substantiated, so they couldn't outright fire him or press charges. They asked him to leave, though.

Btw, I have to correct myself slightly. At the time of the crush, this guy was actually a hospital security gaurd. He went on to be a corrections officer at a prison in Virginia, so he wasn't a cop.

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deafdyke

YES EXACTLY!
Also, parents need to train their girls not to be so submissive to men. Girls need to know THEY have rights TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Foxrac

It's illegal but depends on other countries but culture can be varies in between other countries, for in US then its illegal for 18 years old that want sex with under 18 years, also that sick to do that. I'm rarely to chat with minor except for several best friend from other forum but 16 years old or over are accept, also only person that I chat with 2hot4you and she's nice.

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C.C.Sinned

Her screen name is very fitting in this case

Foxrac

How is her screenname to be fitting?

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JLFWildKat

Yes thats true its called Statutory Rape..
Don't worry darling I'll have a shot gun by the time our daughter turns that age. Bring them on muahahaha

Liebling:-)))

I respect you what you think right but I see different. This law is for teenagers, not adult which is not right. Look at many poor innoncent adults as well. They are also being cheat by their partners. I feel that teenagers and adults should being treat equal, not just that teenagers.
Teenagers are not only one who are naive, also adults as well.

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I agree with Jolie here, Well said!!

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Liebling:-)))

for compliment.

Yes I always know you are a good mother and don´t mind to have my boys to date your girls...

Yes, I can understand it must be scary to know either boys are right for your girls or not... Yes, I know that many young men has no respect young women... I´m agree... It´s important to educate girls or boys to respect and what sex is... I´m also scare sometimes when my boys start to date girls. I will try to not be "over-protect" mother.

Yes, I´m very disgusit about child porn... many preverts addicted to porn. internet or movies...

For teenagers is bit different as preverts, I beleive... Why? Because teenagers experiment their sexuality emotion which is normal - total different as older adults. I would consider older adults as preverts for look child porn., young girls, etc.

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Liebling:-)))

Just teenagers? Respectfully disagree.

Well, it´s not just teenagers but adult as well who are naive to fall for smooth talkers. Ages make no difference... No matter how ages who are naive... Example: My sister fall in love married man when she was 19 years old and pregnant by him... He told her that he love only her... My sister is not only one but many young adults from 18 years old to 50 or more .... after found out that they are married, have partners, swindle, use for sex, etc.... Why fix the law for teenagers only? Look at poor innoncent adults around...

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Liebling:-)))

I had a big crush on 25 years old teacher when I was 14 years old... He & other teachers know my feeling for him but he kept away from me... (thanks my friends who told him)... 2 years later, we celebrated our last farewell party to end our school edcuation... We went to every class rooms to say goodbye before we left school. Nobody but me, my friend, teacher & other teacher in his class room. Other teacher & my friend persuaded teacher & me to kiss. My face burnt red like tomato... He kissed me (not french kiss, just very soft kiss on my lip) front of other teacher and my friend... and told me that I´m very pretty and take care of myself and wish me best good luck in the future... I know what teacher should not do that but we kept it safety... 23 years later I met him again at school reunion in 1992. I introduced my hubby to teacher... I told my hubby that it´s him, I´m madly crush on... He kept on look at me & my hubby ... mmmhhhh I look at him and know it´s crush, not love...

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Taylor

Liebling, I did not mean to make it sound as if it was specific to teenagers. You are correct in that many adults are like that also. I just feel that its more of an issue with teenagers. It is also something that older people use to gain the confidence of teenagers.

I do see your point, however, in that when it comes to age, there is only 3 years difference between 18 and 15. While still illegal in many places, An 18 year old dating somebody under 18 does not stink of sexual predator IMO.

Liebling:-)))

Do you come to educate me how to raise my boys?

For your information, my boys were being educated how to take care themselves at kindergarten and from us. My boys are MY responsiblity, not law. I don´t want the government take control of my responsiblity on my boys becausé it´s not their business. It´s their business if I abuse/neglect my boys accord children protection law.

I only have one computer in study room for family and 2 TV at 2 livings room, that´s all.

I would suggest you to read the whole thread here then you will understand where I come from.

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Askjo

Yes, it is against the law because of minor age then it is called RAPE.

Reba

Do you mean that European law calls it "rape" only if force is used or threatened? Suppose a 30-year-old man uses flattery, sweet words, and gifts to tempt a 12-year-old girl to have sex with him. He doesn't use force or threats. She says she wants to have sex with him. Do you think that is OK? Is that legal in Europe?

Liebling:-)))

I think what you talk is bit extreme because we didn´t talk about preverts here but general way like few years part what I said in my previous posts... I would suggest you to go back 1st page then read all the whole then you will understand what I´m talking about.

Again, I repeat my explanation. It´s parents who report police on guys or women with age unlimited who tempt to have sex, force to have unwanted sex, seduce to have sex, stalker, etc..etc. which is different from US law who consider the law for teenagers... They stamp 18 years old as sex offender rest of his live because 16 or 17 years old girl let him to have sex with him and they love each other... The couple who love each other is not force because they want to have sex each other. I can image what if I as 16 years old have 19 years old boyfriend whom I love, get in trouble with law because he involved with me...

Do you really think 12 years old are stupid to fall for 30 years old´s charm talker? Oh come on, 12 years old would scare and run away... They are being educate to aware what right and wrong... I myself was 12 years old and can´t involve with 30 years old and would say that they are tooo old and prevert. A lot of teenagers rather to involve with several year older guys, not 30 or 40 years old...

Well I answer your hypothetical question.

Of course it´s illegal for 12 years old to have sex with 30 years old.

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sara1981

i would agree with posts

but its would be serious laws between girls and boys at 15 and 19 years old but im sure she wouldnt allowed to have sex with older guys that really illegal

im sure mostly parents need to kept eyes of kids do and dont get sex of their kids between 15-19 years old its would be so crazy!

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21 is really an adult...

19 is still a kid.

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armymech81

You need to know the laws for Statutory Rape. Some places, it is anyone over the age of 18 having sex with someone under the age of 18, while other places in the states have loop holes in that law. In El Paso, I knew a family that tried to take a 30 yr-old to court for having sex with their, at the time, 16 year old daughter. The adult knew that law and knew her age, but they couldn't convict the guy cause she was willing to have sex with him on multply times. Now, normal law says that is Statutory Rape, but cause she was 16 and was willing to have sex more then once, the court treated her like an adult. Now the family needs to fight for child support and the 17 yr old has a kid with someone almost twice her age.

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SpaceyUFO

Depends on what, I have a friend who engaged to 12yrs age difference. She was only 15yrs old and he was 28yrs old. They got engaged and very much in love. Normally our country law they have to be over 16yrs old which it is legally do that. Now they are over 20's and 30's.

CoolGal-UK

Well it is against the law in this country UK as the age of consent is 16 and anyone who has sex with a younger child has committed an offence. If the victim is under 12, it is classed as rape. If the victim is over 13 and consents, it is unlawful sexual intercourse.

GalaxyAngel

Statutory Rape!

IF the older teenager or Adult having sex who is 16yrs old under... still Statutory Rape because their teenager's parent can file rights against you therefore you're still condiser rape their child's under the ages... They can rights press charge against yours...

By the law of Canada.

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shel90

Of course the girl is willing to have sex with this 30 year old more than once but what was the guy thinking? He has to be out of his mind to be dating a 16 year old let alone having sex with her!

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Opal

Just found out last Christmas, my 18 years old niece is dating 36 years old boyfriend.

There is nothing we can do about it, but not happy with the idea of them item.

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GalaxyAngel

Yeah, She is 18 yrs old anything what she want to...

Least she is happy with her boyfriend and stronger longer bond relationship which it's good news..

For me.. scary yes.. honestly.. I hope my children would have find soulmate and closer the age groups.. If not .. so I have to accept and willing open heart for them as long moral support my child no matter what happened!

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