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Old 05-26-2007, 08:28 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Imagine this : If, a parent should decide to abort unborn child, then the unborn child die and go to heaven. This child will ask God " Father, how come they don't love me ? "

What are you gonna say to this child ? And, even thou this unborn child is screamin' when the vacuum start pullin' its arms and legs apart from its body and then die. This unborn child screams frantically " Noooo ! Don't kill me ! "

And, some mothers have no feelings for this unborn child's painful comparin' to prisoners who commited crimes. Prisoners don't scream when it comes to death penalty. They will provide pastors/priests to ask criminals if, they confess their sins and ask for forgiveness before puttin' them to death. But, babies... that's different story ! They don't provide pastors/priests for the babies.

I agree with Cheri about don't compare the babies to prisoners.
Maria, that is so true and i completely agree. I also agree with Cheri
also!!
Criminals who commit terrible, henious crimes like murder especially
if they commit crimes against children do deserve to be put to death!!
Maria, some prisoners DO scream if they get death penalty because
some of them DO NOT HAVE ANY REMORSE AT ALL..just plain do not
have any conscience of what they have done, meaning they do not care
what evilness they have done. Same thing with some unfeeling mothers
who abort their babies, im sorry to say this..thats my opinion. I would
rather they just go thru with the pregnancy and give up the baby for
adoption.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:28 AM   #152 (permalink)
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I am pro innocent human baby life.

Convicted murderers are not innocent.

Animals are not humans.

There is no conflict.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:31 AM   #153 (permalink)
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Yupp, I am against death penalty. Death penalty seems doesn't solve anything, but let those people who did bad things to exit the world
I feel like same.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:37 AM   #154 (permalink)
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It is none of your business. It's my body. You do not want to have an abortion, then do not abort your baby. Just keep your baby and be happy. That's all.
Yup, if I want abortion then that my body, none of their business.

I'm full pro-choice...
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:49 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Yupp, I am against death penalty. Death penalty seems doesn't solve anything, but let those people who did bad things to exit the world
Umm, wanna clarify that a bit more?
Are you saying you dont think criminals should not
get the death penalty (even after DNA proves them
guilty), right?
You said "but let those people who did bad things to
exit the world" ok HOW SO? CARE TO EXPLAIN
THAT?
Put them on space ship and drop them off on Mars?
LOL! just kidddinnngggg!!
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:50 AM   #156 (permalink)
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Interesting link

A lot of Christians are for pro-life and support death penatly...

I am pro-choice for medical/health reasons (life-treatening etc for mother or baby) and against death penatly.
Pro-life isn't limited to against on abortion but they against on euthanasia, human cloning, embryonic stem cells and death penalty.

UK is more true pro-life than in USA but abortion is legal (up to 24 weeks) since death penalty is illegal.

I guess that most women are already aborted their newborn in before 12 weeks or so.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:55 AM   #157 (permalink)
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Umm, wanna clarify that a bit more?
Are you saying you dont think criminals should not
get the death penalty (even after DNA proves them
guilty), right?
You said "but let those people who did bad things to
exit the world" ok HOW SO? CARE TO EXPLAIN
THAT?
Put them on space ship and drop them off on Mars?
LOL! just kidddinnngggg!!
That's his personal, you can't conflict with his personal.

I'm on same side as what he said.
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:07 AM   #158 (permalink)
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What so? It don't matters.
It does matter. Babies don't commit crimes, prisoners are.

How come people kill the babies when the babies don't deserve to die ? What's wrong with adoption ? I am sure there are some people out there who will give babies plenty of love and home. Look at Angelina Jolie ? She adopted children from other foreign countries and their mommies don't kill their babies.
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It does matter. Babies don't commit crimes, prisoners are.

How come people kill the babies when the babies don't deserve to die ? What's wrong with adoption ? I am sure there are some people out there who will give babies plenty of love and home. Look at Angelina Jolie ? She adopted children from other foreign countries and their mommies don't kill their babies.
Not get in debate with you or other members.

I just define about pro-life and pro-choice.

I have respect your opinion about how are you feeling.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:10 AM   #160 (permalink)
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I am pro innocent human baby life.

Convicted murderers are not innocent.

Animals are not humans.

There is no conflict.
Then you are for pro-choice.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:25 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Well, when babies are grow up into teen or adult in near future then some of them can commit crime or not know, even not predict if see what happen, it's just for random.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:28 AM   #162 (permalink)
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Pro-life isn't limited to against on abortion but they against on euthanasia, human cloning, embryonic stem cells and death penalty.
Yes I have read your link. Your link make a good sense because I never thought about euthanasia, death penalty etc. I agree with your link about abortion issues is the same thing as death penalty, euthanasia, etc.

I would make myself a hypothetic if I claim that I am a pro-life for support abortion for medical/health reasons, support abortion to save mother or baby´s life and euthanasia and against human cloning, embryonic stem cells and death penalty. No, I would not do that. I accept the fact that I am pro-choice for different reasons.


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UK is more true pro-life than in USA but abortion is legal (up to 24 weeks) since death penalty is illegal.

I guess that most women are already aborted their newborn in before 12 weeks or so.
Yes, death penalty are illegal in many European countries, not just UK and also fix abortion law as well. Yes, a lot of European women prefer to abort their babies before 12 weeks time. I would not accuss them as a lame excuse or whatever but respect and support their decision for reasons. I only judge mothers who abort babies dozen of times or tried to kill unborn babies with forced miscarriage or abuse their babies. It´s the mainly worst is kill newborns.

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I have read some of your posts saying that you are against abortions and support death penalty or whatever which mean is you are a pro-choice. You have to accept the fact either you like those word or not. If you are against ALL which mean is you are for a pro-life.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:14 AM   #164 (permalink)
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Then you are for pro-choice.
No.

I'm pro-life for innocent babies.

I'm pro-justice for convicted criminals.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:19 AM   #165 (permalink)
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I have read some of your posts saying that you are against abortions and support death penalty or whatever which mean is you are a pro-choice. You have to accept the fact either you like those word or not. If you are against ALL which mean is you are for a pro-life.
I'm pro-life for the innocent victims that are killed by murderers.

The victims didn't get a choice to live or die. Why should the killers?

The killers gave up their rights to any "choices" when they chose to murder someone.
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No.

I'm pro-life for innocent babies.

I'm pro-justice for convicted criminals.
Supposed to be 75% of pro-life.
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:15 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Supposed to be 75% of pro-life.
Huh?
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Old 05-26-2007, 01:20 PM   #168 (permalink)
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I'm pro-choice. I also beleive in sexual responsibility. Abortion shouldn't be an excuse to be sexually rampant.
Would think the guy be involved in decision but ultimately the woman's choice. And holey rollers should butt thier noses out of a woman's personal life.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:19 PM   #169 (permalink)
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That's his personal, you can't conflict with his personal.

I'm on same side as what he said.
Im asking this question to: PuyoPiyo, not YOU!
so stay out of it, busybody! I rather hear his
answer, if he will answer, that is. Not from you,
geeez.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:25 PM   #170 (permalink)
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I'm pro-life for the innocent victims that are killed by murderers.

The victims didn't get a choice to live or die. Why should the killers?

The killers gave up their rights to any "choices" when they chose to murder someone.
Very interesting I would want to say something and also Marie´s post as well but I can´t due the respect of Alex´s lock thread.

Anyway back to this topic. It look like that you are for revenge. It teachs anyone okay to kill each other out of revenge. Death Penalty is not right punishment but revenge. I consider death penalty is a murder. Sentence murderers to a life is a right punishment.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:31 PM   #171 (permalink)
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No.
Yes this is a pro-choice.

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I'm pro-life for innocent babies.
Very interesting I said the same thing at other lock threads.

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I'm pro-justice for convicted criminals.
No, I do not see it as an excuse...

Punish criminals to life sentence is a pro-life.
Death penatly is not right punishment but murder and revenge is a pro-choice.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:42 PM   #172 (permalink)
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I'm pro-life for the innocent victims that are killed by murderers.

The victims didn't get a choice to live or die. Why should the killers?

The killers gave up their rights to any "choices" when they chose to murder someone.
I totally agree and if the criminals
have been proven guilty by DNA
then they should get the death
penalty, period. Why should they get
to live, not the murdered victims, not fair!
I worry about overcrowding of prisons, ugh!
It costs us tax payers billions of dollars just
to house, feed and cloth these monsters.......
Oh it pisses me....i better stop.........
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Very interesting I would want to say something but I can´t due the respect of Alex´s lock thread.

Anyway back to this topic. It look like that you are for revenge. It teachs anyone okay to kill each other out of revenge. Death Penalty is not right punishment but revenge. I consider death penalty is a murder. Sentence murderers to a life is a right punishment.
You and I have fully debated this topic several times in several threads. I'm not going to get sucked into it again.

I'm not for "revenge." The death penalty is legal in my state and many others, so it is not "murder." It is the result of due process of law. Murderers who get "life" sentences often don't stay in prison until they die.

I obey USA's laws, and you obey Germany's laws.
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Interesting link

A lot of Christians are for pro-life and support death penatly...

I am pro-choice for medical/health reasons (life-treatening etc for mother or baby) and against death penatly.
I dont blame what Cheri said about your statement about the
Christians are for pro-life and death penalty..so what?
a lot of non-believers feel the same way too..geez.
That statement you said shows that you still have some animosity
against the christians...tsk tsk.
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