Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice? - Page 5

Cheri · 05-21-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

My brother-in-law's one of his employees has 14 children, and his wife's baby will be born this fall because the parents obey God's commands. It will be their 15th baby. They never stop doing it. Don't you think that it is wrong because we have overpopulation in our country?

No matter of fact I don't think it's wrong, Are they taken good care of those children? Do they respect and compassion those children? It takes a lot of courage to raise a lot of kids, if they give those kids a lot of love and caring, I don't see what's wrong with them having too many kids.

Foxrac · 05-21-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

How is that I am controlling other people's life? I don't stand in front of the abortion clinic and stop them from getting abortion. Of course I know it's their decision, but doesn't mean I have to agree with their decision because I don't. I know what's it is like to have an abortion because I've been there I've carried this regret for a very long time, there was never a day that goes by I don't think about what I've done, I do, I've lived with this for a very long time, I'm ashamed for what I've done, but I was forced by my parents to get an abortion. Talk about controlling people's lives, parent's shouldn't force their daughters to get an abortion. :/

Ok, I have tell you that need show a horrible rant at front of abortion clinic and scare them off.

Just kidding

Also, I had noticed that some teenagers were forced to abortion after make sex with person without parent's knowing and just seems like punish them, that's not enjoy if have no choice.

webexplorer · 05-21-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

How is that I am controlling other people's life? I don't stand in front of the abortion clinic and stop them from getting abortion. Of course I know it's their decision, but doesn't mean I have to agree with their decision because I don't. I know what's it is like to have an abortion because I've been there I've carried this regret for a very long time, there was never a day that goes by I don't think about what I've done, I do, I've lived with this for a very long time, I'm ashamed for what I've done, but I was forced by my parents to get an abortion. Talk about controlling people's lives, parent's shouldn't force their daughters to get an abortion. :/

I am sorry to hear that. It is terrible for your parents to force you... Your doctor did a good job otherwise, you would have died if the doctor's performance is so poor. I completely understand how difficult for you to be in a fine line like 50/50 chance. I cannot tell you whether it is good or bad idea. I wish that there is an easy way for all women to "magic" that would never happen or make it happen. You know what I mean.

webexplorer · 05-21-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Also, I had noticed that some teenagers were forced to abortion after make sex with person without parent's knowing and just seems like punish them, that's not enjoy if have no choice.

Some teenagers are afraid of their parents because they would abuse them if they find out that their kids are pregnant.

Actually, it is not fair for young boys not to get involved with their girlfriend's situation. It is so easy for them to walk away from their girlfriend.

christlovedeaf · 05-21-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

Some teenagers are afraid of their parents because they would abuse them if they find out that their kids are pregnant.

Actually, it is not fair for young boys not to get involved with their girlfriend's situation. It is so easy for them to walk away from their girlfriend.

That's where problem coming from. A boy who manipulate a girl and claiming by empty word of saying I love you and etc..., then after sex, then walked out and suddenly found out she's preg., and saying "not problem", then he is not a man enough. True love is, if a guy stand by her and do every strength to help her. Most girls parents interfere, tho they are minor, but my POV, what a guy were involve and responsible, parents should let btwn him and her to work it out. If that guy has a heart for his gf, that is true love.

Oceanblue7 · 05-21-2007, 02:15 PM

I am pro-life!

PuyoPiyo · 05-22-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by christlovedeaf

That's where problem coming from. A boy who manipulate a girl and claiming by empty word of saying I love you and etc..., then after sex, then walked out and suddenly found out she's preg., and saying "not problem", then he is not a man enough. True love is, if a guy stand by her and do every strength to help her. Most girls parents interfere, tho they are minor, but my POV, what a guy were involve and responsible, parents should let btwn him and her to work it out. If that guy has a heart for his gf, that is true love.

I am with you on that!

05-22-2007, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

No matter of fact I don't think it's wrong, Are they taken good care of those children? Do they respect and compassion those children? It takes a lot of courage to raise a lot of kids, if they give those kids a lot of love and caring, I don't see what's wrong with them having too many kids.

What about respect for the earth and it's limited resources? Having too many children doesn't just affect the parents. However that's a different topic for a different day. I posted elsewhere that I think PREVENTION is better than CURE. The pregnancies should be prevented, not "cured."

Foxrac · 05-22-2007, 10:35 AM

For me, If I was female and get preggy so accident from BC then I would get abortion.

Cheri · 05-24-2007, 04:27 PM

interesting link on abortions:

Age:
15yrs(3%)
15-19(42%)
20-24 (33%)
25-29 (14%)
30 (8%)

Completed Education: Number of children:
12yrs(6%) 0 (73%)
High School(39%) 1 (14%)
13-14 years (26%) 2 (9%)
Bachelors (19%) 3 (4%)
Masters (4%) 3 (1%)

Race
African-American 35%
White 33%
Hispanic 15%
Other 17%

Reason for abortion:
Mother's Health (3%)
Baby has possible health problem (3%)
Rape or Incest (1%)
Couldn't Afford Baby (21%)
Not ready for the Responsibility (21%)
Concerned how child would change lives (16%)
A relationship problem (12%)
Not mature enough (11%)
Had all the children they wanted (8%)
Other (4%)

Who does abortion affect

PuyoPiyo · 05-24-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Reason for abortion:
Mother's Health (3%)
Baby has possible health problem (3%)
Rape or Incest (1%)
Couldn't Afford Baby (21%)
Not ready for the Responsibility (21%)
Concerned how child would change lives (16%)
A relationship problem (12%)
Not mature enough (11%)
Had all the children they wanted (8%)
Other (4%)

Who does abortion affect

Couldn't afford baby, not ready for responsibility, concerned how child would change lives, relationship problem, not mature enough, had all the children they wanted

IS A LAME EXCUSE!

05-25-2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Couldn't afford baby, not ready for responsibility, concerned how child would change lives, relationship problem, not mature enough, had all the children they wanted

IS A LAME EXCUSE!

How are those lame excuses? Those women (and hopefully their partners) were pretty wise in knowing those things BEFORE making the mistake of having the baby and realizing it after it was too late.

PuyoPiyo · 05-25-2007, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vrsterp

How are those lame excuses? Those women (and hopefully their partners) were pretty wise in knowing those things BEFORE making the mistake of having the baby and realizing it after it was too late.

Send them for adoption, or they could just have a condom or pregnancy pills, or something. There's lot of things they can do better than abortion.

05-25-2007, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Send them for adoption, or they could just have a condom or pregnancy pills, or something. There's lot of things they can do better than abortion.

How many adopted kids do you have? Are you aware of how many unwanted children are already out there, and are stuck in the foster care system and have no real homes? People are so quick to suggest adoption.

Also, I agree everyone who is sexually active should be on some form of birth control, along with condoms. However these are not 100%. They fail. Not as often as some people who don't use them properly like to say they do, but they DO fail.

PuyoPiyo · 05-25-2007, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vrsterp

How many adopted kids do you have? Are you aware of how many unwanted children are already out there, and are stuck in the foster care system and have no real homes? People are so quick to suggest adoption.

I understand what you mean, the overpopulation problem. It doesn't mean we have to kill the children, we can use condom or pregnancy pill to stop the overpopulation. But if people ignore that and became pregnant, it's their fault, ALWAYS parent's fault to abort or send the children to foster parents.

Also, I agree everyone who is sexually active should be on some form of birth control, along with condoms. However these are not 100%. They fail. Not as often as some people who don't use them properly like to say they do, but they DO fail.

Yeah, they only success at 80 percent to stop pregnancy.

So, neither sending the children to foster parents or abort the unborn baby is always a big shame on parents.

Foxrac · 05-25-2007, 11:09 AM

If you are pro-life then you need against on death penalty.
Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

webexplorer · 05-25-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

If you are pro-life then you need against on death penalty.
Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Obviously, it makes sense.

Liebling:-))) · 05-25-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

If you are pro-life then you need against on death penalty.
Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting link

A lot of Christians are for pro-life and support death penatly...

I am pro-choice for medical/health reasons (life-treatening etc for mother or baby) and against death penatly.

PuyoPiyo · 05-25-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

If you are pro-life then you need against on death penalty.
Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yupp, I am against death penalty. Death penalty seems doesn't solve anything, but let those people who did bad things to exit the world

05-25-2007, 11:19 PM

If you're prolife, I assume all of you are vegan. Or just hypocrites?

PuyoPiyo · 05-25-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vrsterp

If you're prolife, I assume all of you are vegan. Or just hypocrites?

Yup, I am a vegetarian too

Take a look at my post at the vegan's thread by Pacman.

05-25-2007, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Yup, I am a vegetarian too

Take a look at my post at the vegan's thread by Pacman.

No, not lacto-ovo vegetarian. Vegan.

PuyoPiyo · 05-25-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vrsterp

No, not lacto-ovo vegetarian. Vegan.

Okay whatever, but I don't eat any that kills the living.

Cheri · 05-26-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

If you are pro-life then you need against on death penalty.
Pro-life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You don't compare babies to criminals.

I care less about criminals nor Prisoners, What's differences between them two is that babies are innocent, criminals committed a crime.

Cheri · 05-26-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

A lot of Christians are for pro-life and support death penatly...

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So? What's your point? There's nothing wrong with what I support.

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05-24-2007, 04:27 PM	#130 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,074	interesting link on abortions: Age: 15yrs(3%) 15-19(42%) 20-24 (33%) 25-29 (14%) 30 (8%) Completed Education: Number of children: 12yrs(6%) 0 (73%) High School(39%) 1 (14%) 13-14 years (26%) 2 (9%) Bachelors (19%) 3 (4%) Masters (4%) 3 (1%) Race African-American 35% White 33% Hispanic 15% Other 17% Reason for abortion: Mother's Health (3%) Baby has possible health problem (3%) Rape or Incest (1%) Couldn't Afford Baby (21%) Not ready for the Responsibility (21%) Concerned how child would change lives (16%) A relationship problem (12%) Not mature enough (11%) Had all the children they wanted (8%) Other (4%) Who does abortion affect __________________

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05-25-2007, 11:19 PM	#140 (permalink)
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