Are you Pro-Life or Pro-Choice? - Page 10

Reba · 05-29-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

...Some kids commit suicide - two reasons: they cannot find their real parents, and they are depressed with abused foster parents.

Can you please give a source that documents the percentage of adopted children who commit suicide because they can't find their birth parents?

Maria · 05-29-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

No, it's not most chance.

It can be 60% to 80%.

Ok, show me where you prove that ?

Foxrac · 05-29-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

If, condom is not safe, then there's birth control pills for men, too.

Why would men let their loads in women for when women don't have any protection ? Men are responsibile as women's.

BC isn't 100% protection.

It can be 60% to 80%.

Maria · 05-29-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

BC isn't 100% protection.

It can be 60% to 80%.

Prove it to me, please ?

highlands · 05-29-2007, 06:42 PM

Foxrac · 05-29-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Prove it to me, please ?

I don't have one, it was from sex education in long time ago.

Every women are different, it can or not work on different of women, also there's side effect for them like stress then give up and using other methods.
http://www.alldeaf.com/general-healt...rol-pills.html

dreama · 05-29-2007, 06:53 PM

If you do not wish to have any babies you can always get yourself spayed. Now that IS 100 percent affective. I wanted to do that but my folks didn't like the idea.

Foxrac · 05-29-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

If you do not wish to have any babies you can always get yourself spayed. Now that IS 100 percent affective. I wanted to do that but my folks didn't like the idea.

Yup, that right.

Spayed is always best one, it does permanent protect against preggy than BC pills and condom.

christlovedeaf · 05-29-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Yup, that right.

Spayed is always best one, it does permanent protect against preggy than BC pills and condom.

and killing more babies

PuyoPiyo · 05-29-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dreama

If you do not wish to have any babies you can always get yourself spayed. Now that IS 100 percent affective. I wanted to do that but my folks didn't like the idea.

Can you explain what is spayed? I never heard of it before.

Reba · 05-29-2007, 11:58 PM

Dictionary definition:

transitive verb: spayed, spay·ing, spays.

To remove surgically the ovaries of (an animal).

PuyoPiyo · 05-30-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Dictionary definition:

transitive verb: spayed, spay·ing, spays.

To remove surgically the ovaries of (an animal).

Interesting... But I am not doing the spay to my public area for prevent pregnancy no thanks hehe! I wonder the penectomy would be one of them?

Reba · 05-30-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Interesting... But I am not doing the spay to my public area for prevent pregnancy no thanks hehe! I wonder the penectomy would be one of them?

Spaying is for female animals (males don't have ovaries).

Male animals are neutered by removing the testicles. I'm sure you're not interested in that either.

Maria · 05-30-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

I don't have one, it was from sex education in long time ago.

Every women are different, it can or not work on different of women, also there's side effect for them like stress then give up and using other methods.
http://www.alldeaf.com/general-healt...rol-pills.html

Ahh, thanks for the link. Very interestin' !

Well, I am glad that I am sterlized after givin' birth of 4 children.

PuyoPiyo · 05-30-2007, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Spaying is for female animals (males don't have ovaries).

Male animals are neutered by removing the testicles. I'm sure you're not interested in that either.

lol ur right, I would never been interested to removing my penis or my tests lol!

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 04:24 AM

It seem to me that you denied my post so I repeat my post here.

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Originally Posted by christlovedeaf

Why you think I have no feelings? You are feeling just for women,

Yes I feeling for women because it's them who It´s them who carry unborn baby to full term, not men. Right?

It´s them who manage with money issues to take care of baby where the fathers of babies doesn´t support them. Right?

It´s them who stay home with babies, not fathers. Right?

Children cost a lot of money and responsibities... I thought you know about this because you are the father of 2 girls... ?

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but no feeling for men and babies.

what do you mean? It's not men who carry the baby full term.. Right?

babies? Where have I say anything against babies? *scratch my head*

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I don't care what websites saying, bec there are websites about other side also. I have met several women going thru. Like most of them saying, women feeling about themselves than anyone else. And many couldn't have child, bec of damages. There are lot of POVs of it.

Sure, I have seen many and share with them in real life more than websites either but it's mainly important to find out how many % rates/statastic with the help from websites.

I am not saying that websites are 100% correct but I only suggest you to compare if you want to know how many % etc.

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There are more killing babies by sleeping around than anything else. If women wise enough, NOT to have babies, then stop, sleeping around, if you can't afford child(ren). I don't care about other side, as long a child to be born, go for adoptions, or if happens a child is born at home or somewhere, go to the police, or firestations. It's alot better than murdering as a holocaust style for the babies.

I do not see anything where they kill babies? I only see is fetus.

A woman has the right to choose who she want to sex with. Her body is her property, not you, me or everyone. I do beleive if a woman who want to sleep with a lot of guys then use sex protection but it's not alway 100% safety. Anyway, what she do what she want is none of your business. It look like that you allow men sleeping around is okay for you, not women?

I respect women's decision either they want to keep baby or not. Remember each woman is different either she is willing to keep baby or not.

Reason:
Money issues
Not feel ready to be responsibile mother
severe deformed babies
life-treatening
struggle to be a single mother after learn the father of unborn baby dump her.

I support those reasons because it's better than let the child suffer...

I am against if women consider abortion as a birth control.

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

I think that need to ignore them.

It does same with one girl at my high school and she had been aborted her newborn after got preggy so accident then that's her choice, also her parent cannot afford to treat babies or pay child support. It was from condom when had wild sex with other guys.

Yes it was happened the same to my friend's 15 years old niece in 2003. She & her 20 years old boyfriend use condom for over one year then suddenly pregnant. She had a baby boy aged 16. She is not only one and first person who got pregnant after use condom a lot. Lucky, her and her boyfriend's parents support her fully with baby and let her continue with school which is great. They are still live together under the roof of parent's house. They will get married next year.

I can image niece would go bad path without parent's loving support. Accord your post, I can understand that the parents cannot afford to support their daughter with child with money issues or give their jobs up to watch their daughter's baby to let their daughter continue with school. I also can understand that their daughter choose to abort her fetus than carry to full term and give up for an adoption because it's her choice and decision. It look like that the parents and girl agree each other for abort baby which is good to protect their brilliant future.

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Birth control is 99.3% effective. So, it is safe.

As what you said 99.3% - 0.07% leftover... Good... What should they do with unplanned pregnancy? Should they face it and continue to destory their brilliant future then?

Should they own their children as their property?

To me, if you face with unplanned pregnancy then you need to make a decision either you want abortion, adoption or parenting? It's a decision is YOUR, not everyone because you are the one who live with the rest of your life.

The mothers or parents are the guardians of their children, not own their children. If a mother decide to keep a child which mean is she accept her responsibly as parent (guardian) for take care of their child.

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I accept non-online statistics, no problem. I was just curious on what you based that statement. That is, what is the number or percentage of adopted child suicides, and from where did that number come?

Youth Suicides - A Comparison

Adopted Adolescents More Likely to Attempt Suicide, Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Ok, show me where you prove that ?

Here

Effectiveness rate of birth control methods

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Every women are different, it can or not work on different of women, also there's side effect for them like stress then give up and using other methods.
http://www.alldeaf.com/general-healt...rol-pills.html

yes that's right.

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dreama

If you do not wish to have any babies you can always get yourself spayed. Now that IS 100 percent affective. I wanted to do that but my folks didn't like the idea.

Yeah, not just women but men as well... (see Reba's post to Puyo).

Liebling:-))) · 05-30-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

lol ur right, I would never been interested to removing my penis or my tests lol!

they won't remove your penis because you need your penis for your sexuality pleasure...

PuyoPiyo · 05-30-2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

they won't remove your penis because you need your penis for your sexuality pleasure...

I would be very thankful to the doctor to not let me to have a penectomy

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