Castrated Child Molester

FreedummyRing · 07-03-2006, 11:43 AM

Updated:2006-07-03 10:20:00
Castrated Child Molester Seeks Freedom

SANTA ANA, Calif. (July 3) - A convicted child molester who got surgically castrated to curb his urges wants to be released from custody. Kevin Reilly won a court order and paid to have his testicles removed in 2003.

"He felt that this was the only way to stop his cravings and immoral conduct," said his attorney, Orange County Deputy Public Defender Dinah Granafei.

Reilly says he has completed a sex-offender treatment program, undergone castration and is no longer a threat to children. He wants to be freed from Atascadero Mental Hospital, where he has been locked up since 2000 when the Orange County District Attorney's Office filed a petition labeling him a Sexually Violent Predator.

District Attorney Tony Rackauckas says Reilly remains a sexual predator who should remain incarcerated.

"Just because they have been castrated doesn't change what's going on in their minds," he said.

Orange County Superior Court Judge John Conley is presiding over a Sexually Violent Predator hearing and will decide if there is sufficient evidence to order a jury trial later this year.

Reilly has been sentenced to 14 years in prison since 1983 in three separate child molestation cases.

He has been in prison or hospitals since 1998.

Barrie Hafler, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Mental Health at Atascadero, said she knows of fewer than 20 convicted child molesters and rapists who have undergone castration in the last decade.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-03-2006, 01:38 PM

Castrating someone isn't going to remove their urges. It's still in their minds.

redailing · 07-03-2006, 01:43 PM

This actually speaks to a larger issue, in my opinion. According to the copied article, the fellow was sentenced to 14 years since 1983. That would put the end of his term at 1997/98. Why is he still being punished when he has paid the penalty the courts set on his crime? Doesn't it violate his eighth amendment rights to set a sentence for child molestation that is so vastly different from the sentence for any other crime? It is both cruel and relatively unusual to require a list of criminals, to insist on constant monitoring, and the rest, AFTER he's served his sentence. If he shouldn't be set free, why was his sentence only 14 years? Since it was only 14 years, he should be permitted to attempt to put a life together.

IslandGal · 07-03-2006, 01:45 PM

He should be kept in prison for the rest of his life whether or not he is castrated!

LuciaDisturbed · 07-03-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redailing

This actually speaks to a larger issue, in my opinion. According to the copied article, the fellow was sentenced to 14 years since 1983. That would put the end of his term at 1997/98. Why is he still being punished when he has paid the penalty the courts set on his crime? Doesn't it violate his eighth amendment rights to set a sentence for child molestation that is so vastly different from the sentence for any other crime? It is both cruel and relatively unusual to require a list of criminals, to insist on constant monitoring, and the rest, AFTER he's served his sentence. If he shouldn't be set free, why was his sentence only 14 years? Since it was only 14 years, he should be permitted to attempt to put a life together.

Too bad for him.

If he violated a kid then he should suffer for the rest of his life.

LuciaDisturbed · 07-03-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

He should be kept in prison for the rest of his life whether or not he is castrated!

Damn right.

redailing · 07-03-2006, 02:01 PM

Well, and all right. I can accept that as an answer. But shouldn't we then be changing the sentence to life in prison?

Additionally, I'm curious. Why this rather rabid stance against this particular crime? What is it about children that makes this more heinous than, say, murder?

FreedummyRing · 07-03-2006, 09:52 PM

Child Molesters can scarred a kid's life forever.... Messed up his or her sex life. Lost innocence and being defiled and non pure.

Even though long ago, Children could marry at a young age, even in Japan at age 10. But that is different....

Children were raped, and really really tear up their life.

pek1 · 07-03-2006, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redailing

This actually speaks to a larger issue, in my opinion. According to the copied article, the fellow was sentenced to 14 years since 1983. That would put the end of his term at 1997/98. Why is he still being punished when he has paid the penalty the courts set on his crime? Doesn't it violate his eighth amendment rights to set a sentence for child molestation that is so vastly different from the sentence for any other crime? It is both cruel and relatively unusual to require a list of criminals, to insist on constant monitoring, and the rest, AFTER he's served his sentence. If he shouldn't be set free, why was his sentence only 14 years? Since it was only 14 years, he should be permitted to attempt to put a life together.

I concur! Let him go, he has served his time and is no longer a threat.

me_punctured · 07-03-2006, 11:18 PM

I don't believe in complete redemption when it comes to child molesters. Nor do I believe that castration can curb a molester's urges to violate the physical and psychological boundaries of a child. There are many ways to hurt a child without the penetration of a penis.

IslandGal · 07-03-2006, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pek1

I concur! Let him go, he has served his time and is no longer a threat.

What makes you think that he is no longer a threat to children?

netrox · 07-04-2006, 01:52 AM

It all depends on each individual. Some deserve to rot in prison, some deserve a chance.

As for children being harmed by molestation, it also depends on how the children percieve their experiences. Remember, just because a child had a sexual experience doesn't mean s/he is harmed psychologically. Some did just fine without any problems. Don't assume that once a child had a sexual experience, it's all over. An obsession over child's innocence is really an adult problem, not a child problem. It's very important to look after a child's well-being rather than to say, "what the guy did to you was very evil and wrong..." because that kind of comment could make the child feel guilty and dirty. The parent of a child may actually inflict the most psychological damage on the child, not the molestor himself.

As for molestors, if they crave for sex with children, then they should be monitored extensively. If they cannot help with their sexual urges, they can try castration. None of you really know how much of their sexual urges are caused by their hormones. There are plenty of evidence that hormones can stimulate their sexual urges but if the child molestor is more interested in power control, then castration would not work.

LuciaDisturbed · 07-04-2006, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pek1

I concur! Let him go, he has served his time and is no longer a threat.

No longer a threat?

Would you allow him near your children? (I don't know if you have any, but suppose if you did....) Can you trust him?

If a sex offender/child molester was to move in next door and I had children...I would be sooooooo

.

I do not trust sex offenders/child molesters at all. Not even if they have already done hard time in prison. They still and always will be a threat to society.

me_punctured · 07-04-2006, 02:21 AM

You can find out if you live near a registered sex offender.

For example, here's the California Sex Offenders Registry: http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov

Scary, isn't it?

FreedummyRing · 07-04-2006, 11:57 AM

here's another one...

http://www.sexoffender.com/search.html

Oceanbreeze · 07-04-2006, 12:00 PM

OOps. I voted wrong. I'm overly tired, and punched the wrong button.

Anyway, I don't think that we should give a molestor a free pass simply because he's castrated. I believe that castration is a tool used to curb the physical urges. The sickness is in the mind. Therefore, these creeps should be monitered for life, whether they are castrated or not.

Tousi · 07-04-2006, 12:12 PM

Most of the answers above are emotion-based and even though the responses are understandable, the law is the law. We cannot be reduced to vigiliantism! Write to your lawmakers! In the meantime, there is a public list for each State (I think each State, not sure) of the names and current addresses of molesters who have served their time.

WhisperHorse · 07-04-2006, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaDisturbed

No longer a threat?

Would you allow him near your children? (I don't know if you have any, but suppose if you did....) Can you trust him?

If a sex offender/child molester was to move in next door and I had children...I would be sooooooo

.

I do not trust sex offenders/child molesters at all. Not even if they have already done hard time in prison. They still and always will be a threat to society.

I agreed with you!

And, a Sex Offender/Child Molester wouldn't CHANGE. I would say 2% of them finally CHANGE! Mostly of them, dont change becuase it's tough for them same like with us... Example: I'm addict to having sex with my boyfriend, I can't stop it same like they would not stop from touching the child... That's the fact, when I saw someone posted the thread that have the website for sex offender/child molester that we can find where they live in and know who and such like that, I noticed that they tend to be CLOSE to the park that where kids go to play and the school and blah that where kids TEND to go. Honestly, I noticed that mostly of % that they live near by where kids are going to.

LuciaDisturbed · 07-04-2006, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetheart

I agreed with you!

And, a Sex Offender/Child Molester wouldn't CHANGE. I would say 2% of them finally CHANGE! Mostly of them, dont change becuase it's tough for them same like with us... Example: I'm addict to having sex with my boyfriend, I can't stop it same like they would not stop from touching the child... That's the fact, when I saw someone posted the thread that have the website for sex offender/child molester that we can find where they live in and know who and such like that, I noticed that they tend to be CLOSE to the park that where kids go to play and the school and blah that where kids TEND to go. Honestly, I noticed that mostly of % that they live near by where kids are going to.

That's right.

Recently I and my boyfriend were curious as to whether there were any sex offenders living near us so we checked the website....we found out that there is a sex offender living in next building in my apartment complex! And this is a family apartment complex, so many young kids!!!

jazzy · 07-04-2006, 01:38 PM

I wonder if he was my sister's patient. No he should not be allowed to be out even he had castrated. I do not believe he is cured by it. It is our duty to protect our children from those sicko.

Oceanbreeze · 07-04-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzy

I wonder if he was my sister's patient. No he should not be allowed to be out even he had castrated. I do not believe he is cured by it. It is our duty to protect our children from those sicko.

Amen! I agree with you, Jazzy.

Oceanbreeze · 07-04-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Most of the answers above are emotion-based and even though the responses are understandable, the law is the law. We cannot be reduced to vigiliantism! Write to your lawmakers! In the meantime, there is a public list for each State (I think each State, not sure) of the names and current addresses of molesters who have served their time.

Pehaps, so. But, I believe the protection of children trumps the supposed rights of the convicted sexual predator. These people can't be cured, and therefore, we need to keep them in a controlled environment. If that means for the remainder of their lives, so be it.

I agree that we need to change our laws. In the meantime, we need to protect our kids any way possible. The lists only name those that have been convicted, and that list is far from complete. State laws vary, and there are many loopholes in the laws for these creeps to jump through. If keeping them on a mental ward will help, then, I say do it.

sablescort · 07-04-2006, 01:47 PM

He should be kept committed in a mental hospital anyways. He can be committed to a mental hospital after he had finished his prison term.

and oh BTW the states and cities are getting TOUGH on sex offenders by telling them they cant live 1,000 to 2,000 feet from churches, daycares, schools, parks, and anywhere kids gather. Georgia just passed a law that is sooo tough on sex offenders than any other state by including bus stops. That means no sex offender can live anywhere in GA as there are over 150,000 bus stops.

Oceanbreeze · 07-04-2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sablescort

He should be kept committed in a mental hospital anyways. He can be committed to a mental hospital after he had finished his prison term.

and oh BTW the states and cities are getting TOUGH on sex offenders by telling them they cant live 1,000 to 2,000 feet from churches, daycares, schools, parks, and anywhere kids gather. Georgia just passed a law that is sooo tough on sex offenders than any other state by including bus stops. That means no sex offender can live anywhere in GA as there are over 150,000 bus stops.

Not as tough as you think. There are many loopholes in our laws that needs to be plugged. I believe in castration. But, I also don't think it's full proof. The only way we're going to stop our kids from becoming victimized is to keep our kids away from them. We also need to educate our children. There's lots of things that we need to do. A "one fix fixes all" approach isn't going to work. This issue needs to be dealt with on lot of levels.

LuciaDisturbed · 07-04-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze

Not as tough as you think. There are many loopholes in our laws that needs to be plugged. I believe in castration. But, I also don't think it's full proof. The only way we're going to stop our kids from becoming victimized is to keep our kids away from them. We also need to educate our children. There's lots of things that we need to do. A "one fix fixes all" approach isn't going to work. This issue needs to be dealt with on lot of levels.

Very true.

redailing · 07-04-2006, 06:44 PM

Keep in mind that the term "Sex offender" is an incredibly broad term, and all the negative connotations that are attached aren't necessarily warranted. What about the 18 year old boy who gets caught having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend? Press charges, and he's on a list, and you're horrified he's living in the same building. "Sex offenders" are painted with a very wide brush, and for every sicko who gets off on luring little kids to their ruin, there's four college frat guys who were dared to moon the local sorority on parent's night. These are the kinds of things that are called sex offense.

Recidivism is an interesting occurrence. Generally, the chance of returning to a crime decreases substantially when the perpetrator has a strong support network helping him stay clean, as it were. How many support networks are there to help some guy who did a horrible thing, that he can't ever erase from his memory, and can barely stand to live with how he hurt some family? He doesn't want to do it again, but he doesn't know how to stop. He doesn't know how to stop because whenever anyone finds out what he did, the immediate and universal reaction is one of utter revulsion.

I know it's not nice to contemplate, but good people can do horrible evil things, just as horrible, evil people can do very good things.

LuciaDisturbed · 07-04-2006, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redailing

Recidivism is an interesting occurrence. Generally, the chance of returning to a crime decreases substantially when the perpetrator has a strong support network helping him stay clean, as it were. How many support networks are there to help some guy who did a horrible thing, that he can't ever erase from his memory, and can barely stand to live with how he hurt some family? He doesn't want to do it again, but he doesn't know how to stop. He doesn't know how to stop because whenever anyone finds out what he did, the immediate and universal reaction is one of utter revulsion.
.

I still wouldn't take a chance.

redailing · 07-04-2006, 06:57 PM

Drunk drivers kill thousands yearly. Should we have a list, a registry, because they're likely to drive drunk again? Why even bother with programs like Al-anon? Why take the chance?

Heath · 07-04-2006, 06:57 PM

You also need to look at the fact that in another countries where if somebody has ..... " touched " a child then he is immediately shot by a firing squad. Those people in those countries do not play games with justice.

In those countries sexual abuse is very unheard of and very low child abuse rates than here in the USA. What we are doing here is basically chaining the serious sex offenders on a post then they break loose to harm children and no wonder we have guys who are doing it again 2 or 3 times or more meanwhile in another countries, you touch a kid then you are dead and buried period. The USA has gotten so politically correct and it is just very insane. We used to lynch and shoot those sick types of people in those days. Now we are basically saying here is a dog collar and here is a monitor for on your ankle and you are free to go and psst ..... Hello, don't touch any kids

If the child is under 18 and has sexually abused somebody then get him the help but once he is an adult. He faces a firing squad if he " touches " a kid. That is how it should be.

redailing · 07-04-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath

If the child is under 18 and has sexually abused somebody then get him the help but once he is an adult. He faces a firing squad if he " touches " a kid. That is how it should be.

What about the 18 year old girl who has sex with her 17 year old boyfriend? The electric chair?

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07-03-2006, 11:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
FreedummyRing Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 378	Castrated Child Molester Updated:2006-07-03 10:20:00 Castrated Child Molester Seeks Freedom SANTA ANA, Calif. (July 3) - A convicted child molester who got surgically castrated to curb his urges wants to be released from custody. Kevin Reilly won a court order and paid to have his testicles removed in 2003. "He felt that this was the only way to stop his cravings and immoral conduct," said his attorney, Orange County Deputy Public Defender Dinah Granafei. Reilly says he has completed a sex-offender treatment program, undergone castration and is no longer a threat to children. He wants to be freed from Atascadero Mental Hospital, where he has been locked up since 2000 when the Orange County District Attorney's Office filed a petition labeling him a Sexually Violent Predator. District Attorney Tony Rackauckas says Reilly remains a sexual predator who should remain incarcerated. "Just because they have been castrated doesn't change what's going on in their minds," he said. Orange County Superior Court Judge John Conley is presiding over a Sexually Violent Predator hearing and will decide if there is sufficient evidence to order a jury trial later this year. Reilly has been sentenced to 14 years in prison since 1983 in three separate child molestation cases. He has been in prison or hospitals since 1998. Barrie Hafler, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Mental Health at Atascadero, said she knows of fewer than 20 convicted child molesters and rapists who have undergone castration in the last decade. __________________ Always forgive your enemies -- Nothing annoys them so much.

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FreedummyRing Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 378	Child Molesters can scarred a kid's life forever.... Messed up his or her sex life. Lost innocence and being defiled and non pure. Even though long ago, Children could marry at a young age, even in Japan at age 10. But that is different.... Children were raped, and really really tear up their life. __________________ Always forgive your enemies -- Nothing annoys them so much.

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07-03-2006, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
redailing Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 19	This actually speaks to a larger issue, in my opinion. According to the copied article, the fellow was sentenced to 14 years since 1983. That would put the end of his term at 1997/98. Why is he still being punished when he has paid the penalty the courts set on his crime? Doesn't it violate his eighth amendment rights to set a sentence for child molestation that is so vastly different from the sentence for any other crime? It is both cruel and relatively unusual to require a list of criminals, to insist on constant monitoring, and the rest, AFTER he's served his sentence. If he shouldn't be set free, why was his sentence only 14 years? Since it was only 14 years, he should be permitted to attempt to put a life together.

07-03-2006, 01:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
IslandGal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 4,322	He should be kept in prison for the rest of his life whether or not he is castrated!

07-03-2006, 02:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
redailing Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 19	Well, and all right. I can accept that as an answer. But shouldn't we then be changing the sentence to life in prison? Additionally, I'm curious. Why this rather rabid stance against this particular crime? What is it about children that makes this more heinous than, say, murder?

07-03-2006, 11:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
me_punctured Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 363	I don't believe in complete redemption when it comes to child molesters. Nor do I believe that castration can curb a molester's urges to violate the physical and psychological boundaries of a child. There are many ways to hurt a child without the penetration of a penis.

07-04-2006, 01:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	It all depends on each individual. Some deserve to rot in prison, some deserve a chance. As for children being harmed by molestation, it also depends on how the children percieve their experiences. Remember, just because a child had a sexual experience doesn't mean s/he is harmed psychologically. Some did just fine without any problems. Don't assume that once a child had a sexual experience, it's all over. An obsession over child's innocence is really an adult problem, not a child problem. It's very important to look after a child's well-being rather than to say, "what the guy did to you was very evil and wrong..." because that kind of comment could make the child feel guilty and dirty. The parent of a child may actually inflict the most psychological damage on the child, not the molestor himself. As for molestors, if they crave for sex with children, then they should be monitored extensively. If they cannot help with their sexual urges, they can try castration. None of you really know how much of their sexual urges are caused by their hormones. There are plenty of evidence that hormones can stimulate their sexual urges but if the child molestor is more interested in power control, then castration would not work.

07-04-2006, 02:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
me_punctured Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 363	You can find out if you live near a registered sex offender. For example, here's the California Sex Offenders Registry: http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov Scary, isn't it?

07-04-2006, 12:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 9,967	OOps. I voted wrong. I'm overly tired, and punched the wrong button. Anyway, I don't think that we should give a molestor a free pass simply because he's castrated. I believe that castration is a tool used to curb the physical urges. The sickness is in the mind. Therefore, these creeps should be monitered for life, whether they are castrated or not.

07-04-2006, 12:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Most of the answers above are emotion-based and even though the responses are understandable, the law is the law. We cannot be reduced to vigiliantism! Write to your lawmakers! In the meantime, there is a public list for each State (I think each State, not sure) of the names and current addresses of molesters who have served their time.

07-04-2006, 01:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High desert in Calif Posts: 4,208	I wonder if he was my sister's patient. No he should not be allowed to be out even he had castrated. I do not believe he is cured by it. It is our duty to protect our children from those sicko.

07-04-2006, 01:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
sablescort Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Found my way back home to Knoxville...heh! Posts: 3,537	He should be kept committed in a mental hospital anyways. He can be committed to a mental hospital after he had finished his prison term. and oh BTW the states and cities are getting TOUGH on sex offenders by telling them they cant live 1,000 to 2,000 feet from churches, daycares, schools, parks, and anywhere kids gather. Georgia just passed a law that is sooo tough on sex offenders than any other state by including bus stops. That means no sex offender can live anywhere in GA as there are over 150,000 bus stops.

07-04-2006, 06:44 PM	#26 (permalink)
redailing Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 19	Keep in mind that the term "Sex offender" is an incredibly broad term, and all the negative connotations that are attached aren't necessarily warranted. What about the 18 year old boy who gets caught having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend? Press charges, and he's on a list, and you're horrified he's living in the same building. "Sex offenders" are painted with a very wide brush, and for every sicko who gets off on luring little kids to their ruin, there's four college frat guys who were dared to moon the local sorority on parent's night. These are the kinds of things that are called sex offense. Recidivism is an interesting occurrence. Generally, the chance of returning to a crime decreases substantially when the perpetrator has a strong support network helping him stay clean, as it were. How many support networks are there to help some guy who did a horrible thing, that he can't ever erase from his memory, and can barely stand to live with how he hurt some family? He doesn't want to do it again, but he doesn't know how to stop. He doesn't know how to stop because whenever anyone finds out what he did, the immediate and universal reaction is one of utter revulsion. I know it's not nice to contemplate, but good people can do horrible evil things, just as horrible, evil people can do very good things.

07-04-2006, 06:57 PM	#28 (permalink)
redailing Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 19	Drunk drivers kill thousands yearly. Should we have a list, a registry, because they're likely to drive drunk again? Why even bother with programs like Al-anon? Why take the chance?

07-04-2006, 06:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
Heath Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,088	You also need to look at the fact that in another countries where if somebody has ..... " touched " a child then he is immediately shot by a firing squad. Those people in those countries do not play games with justice. In those countries sexual abuse is very unheard of and very low child abuse rates than here in the USA. What we are doing here is basically chaining the serious sex offenders on a post then they break loose to harm children and no wonder we have guys who are doing it again 2 or 3 times or more meanwhile in another countries, you touch a kid then you are dead and buried period. The USA has gotten so politically correct and it is just very insane. We used to lynch and shoot those sick types of people in those days. Now we are basically saying here is a dog collar and here is a monitor for on your ankle and you are free to go and psst ..... Hello, don't touch any kids If the child is under 18 and has sexually abused somebody then get him the help but once he is an adult. He faces a firing squad if he " touches " a kid. That is how it should be.

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