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Unread 05-10-2003, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down D.V.D movies

I think the Digital video disk company is way stupid, because every DVDS i buy or watch, and i need captions... It always comes up to

subtles

for the hearing impared.

i was like ?! whyy? if we deaffies invent a DVD, should we do this

subtles

for the deaf impared?


???? stupid people!
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Unread 05-10-2003, 06:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: D.V.D movies

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I think the Digital video disk company is way stupid, because every DVDS i buy or watch, and i need captions... It always comes up to

subtles

for the hearing impared.

i was like ?! whyy? if we deaffies invent a DVD, should we do this

subtles

for the deaf impared?


???? stupid people!
It's not the DVDs, it's the DVD player that you bought. You bought the WRONG DVD player.
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Unread 05-10-2003, 06:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hrm....I've seen some DVD movies on the back saying "English/French/Spanish Subtitles for Hearing Impaired"

Also I just checked a movie, Mummy 2, and it says Subtitles for Hearing Impaired on both of my DVD players. Even it does that on my dvd rom. I guess it is the wordings created by the DVD movie publishers.
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Unread 05-10-2003, 06:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh I made a mistake.

You're actually upset over the words, hearing impaired on the DVDs?

Get a grip!
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Unread 05-10-2003, 08:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I am not upset, im just wondering WHY, why dont they just say "deaf subtles" instead of saying "hearing impared"

and banjo, calm down. dont jump into conclusions
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Unread 05-10-2003, 08:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hearing Impaired is a professional and more general aimed at both Deaf and Hard of Hearing people. If someone said Deaf, would it include Hard of Hearing people? Probably not.

/me shrugs
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Unread 05-10-2003, 09:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am not upset, im just wondering WHY, why dont they just say "deaf subtles" instead of saying "hearing impared"

and banjo, calm down. dont jump into conclusions
Okay, personally...

Hearing-Impaired is just the same as Deaf, but it's just two words and it take longer to type them down.

Hearing-Impaired is a medical term, and a lot of people use it in order to refer to these who are deaf.

It's Subtitles, not Subtles... just pointing it out.

But there are some DVDs that use the word, deaf instead of hearing-impaired. But there's no needs to make a big deal of these things.
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Unread 05-10-2003, 09:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't have any prolem with it. Unless if you saw the special feature for deaf people in the special DVD edition of Monty Python's Holy Grail

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Unread 05-10-2003, 09:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have no problem with any DVD's techincal control. it is fine!!
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I have no problem with any DVD's techincal control. it is fine!!
Same here
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Unread 05-10-2003, 11:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Unread 05-11-2003, 03:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't see a difference if they say Deaf or hearing impaired. Hearing impaired is more "politacally correct" in the hearing world. You should see the looks I get when I call my deaf friends deaf or deaffies sometimes. LOL.
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Unread 05-11-2003, 06:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah, sadly, hearies will still call you hearing impaired even if you asked them to call you as a deaf person. When I was working in Sears, sometimes I saw my co-workers telling customers that I were "hearing impaired." I always corrected them, and said "No, I am deaf." The customers always were looking at us and saying huh?

I would just rather for the DVD to say subtitled in English, without the word "for the hearing impaired."
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kuifje, thats my point! thanks!! i want it to be plain and simple with out saying, IMPAIRED, its kinda weird you know..
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Unread 05-11-2003, 08:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have no problem with them as long they provide subtitles.. easier for me to understand the whole movie..
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Who gives?
Just be glad that they have it on dvds... otherwise we will be watching without cc or subtitles..
be happy.. and accept it..
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Unread 05-12-2003, 09:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Totally I am happy about it. Not complaining here Just a mere wish, that's all. Even if a DVD has close captioning symbol on it, I still watch with subtitles anyway.

Incidentially, on the Region 2 DVDs I have from France, it does say: "Soustirage pour les sourds et malentendants" (Subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing) I do prefer the French subtitles, because each character has different colour, it's easier to see who is talking.
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Unread 05-12-2003, 12:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Totally I am happy about it. Not complaining here Just a mere wish, that's all. Even if a DVD has close captioning symbol on it, I still watch with subtitles anyway.

Incidentially, on the Region 2 DVDs I have from France, it does say: "Soustirage pour les sourds et malentendants" (Subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing) I do prefer the French subtitles, because each character has different colour, it's easier to see who is talking.
I agree that English should be using different colors to figure out who is saying what. There's still parts of subtitles that is missing compared to CC. Like (gunshots) on CC. It don't say that on subtitles for most of the movies.

Some like in Tomb Raider, I saw a telephone icon showign that it was (ringing) when I went to a big movies with open captions. It is pretty decent usage of subtitle compared to CC.
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Unread 05-12-2003, 03:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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There's still parts of subtitles that is missing compared to CC. Like (gunshots) on CC. It don't say that on subtitles for most of the movies.

You are right, English subtitles do miss out on the sounds. It is funny, when I am with my hearing friends watching DVD movies, my friend would tell me "the phone rang" and I would go ohhh! I would have never thought of that LOL. I sometimes forget this world has sounds! Those "English for hearing impaired" usually includes the sounds in the DVD, whereas "English" doesnt? I know the French subtitles on Region one DVDs don't include sounds on some DVDs. In Region 2 DVDs, a special colour is for sounds.
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Unread 05-12-2003, 04:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I do not like subtitle cuz it sound not right system for deaf cuz for example subtitle never put their name then what he/she said
CC do that. that's why I perfer CC on it.
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I agree goldenleaf, we expect much better than those pathetic words, :for hearing impared: ahh
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Who gives?
Just be glad that they have it on dvds... otherwise we will be watching without cc or subtitles..
be happy.. and accept it..
Right on Ms Giglz I agree with ya Who wants to watch a movie without cc or subtitles? not me!!
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Unread 05-19-2003, 05:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It was a house rule in my family's home. Right now, at Lisa's family...only her brother is stubborn and does that on purpose when he is moody against either one of us. Guess he thinks stones and sticks can hurt us.
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Unread 05-19-2003, 05:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Also, with my old DVD player, when I hooked it up, it had no problem to show the captions (cc as in white words on black blocks) for the DVDs. When I bought my multi-region DVD player, my captions would not work with the DVDs anymore. I've asked deafies around and some of them has similar problems with trying to have captions show on screen for DVDs. It seems like that most deafies who I know, who has problems with captions, have those RTF adapters, that connects the DVD to TV. But I am puzzled because I used the RTF adapter with my old DVD player. I why. Have any one of you had problems with having captions for your DVD? Do you think it depends on the DVD players? Some would let captions to work and others wouldn`t?

That is why I prefer subtitles. I know for sure that I can watch it on my telly with subtitles, or even in subtitles in its original language like French movies with French subtitles, German movies with German subtitles, etc...
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i have no plms with my Sony Dvd Player
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Unread 05-26-2003, 05:32 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Also, with my old DVD player, when I hooked it up, it had no problem to show the captions (cc as in white words on black blocks) for the DVDs. When I bought my multi-region DVD player, my captions would not work with the DVDs anymore. I've asked deafies around and some of them has similar problems with trying to have captions show on screen for DVDs. It seems like that most deafies who I know, who has problems with captions, have those RTF adapters, that connects the DVD to TV. But I am puzzled because I used the RTF adapter with my old DVD player. I why. Have any one of you had problems with having captions for your DVD? Do you think it depends on the DVD players? Some would let captions to work and others wouldn`t?

That is why I prefer subtitles. I know for sure that I can watch it on my telly with subtitles, or even in subtitles in its original language like French movies with French subtitles, German movies with German subtitles, etc...
I think it is because of the captioned decoder is not a full standard.
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Unread 05-26-2003, 05:58 AM   #27 (permalink)
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My TV has the caption chip inside it. I don't use a decoder.
I am wondering if my "multi-region" DVD player may be the reason.
In Europe, some DVD Players wont work with text tv captions, while others will. My DVD Player will play PAL or NTSC DVDs, or any regions 1 to 6. Anyway, it's no big deal anyway, I can always use my old DVD player to watch DVD with caps.

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Well, I have a dvd-rom on my computer so if closed captions doesn't work on my TV DVD player...I would check the dvd disc on my computer to see if the subtitles are there. I've noticed that it's usually in different folders depending on who made it. Maybe that is why the Dvd players never knew the proper places where the closed captions files are. That's why I said that I don't think it's a full standard for how closed captions are wrote to those dvd discs.
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Just be glad that they have it on dvds... otherwise we will be watching without cc or subtitles..
be happy.. and accept it..
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I realise this is an old thread...but wanted to put in my opinion -- I don't really care if it has 'Subtitles for the hearing impaired' -- the important part is that the DVD movie IS subtitled for the Deaf and hearing impaired, period! Better that than NONE, right?
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