At what age do you think people should be permitted to have a driver's license? - Page 2

IslandGal · 01-15-2006, 12:29 PM

I voted age 16.

Reba · 01-15-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis

...I wouldn't need a driver's license if I had good public transportation around here! Of course there isn't in the U.S., so I had to get my license as soon as possible to get anywhere!

Amen!

Reba · 01-15-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

What other nations do

By Jayne O'Donnell, USA TODAY

U.S.-based highway safety experts often point out how much harder it is for teenagers in many other countries to get a license. Some European nations don't allow learner's permits until age 17 or 18. Even when 16-year-olds in Europe are allowed to drive, the costs of required driver training and insurance often delay licensing until they're older.

Here are some of the approaches to teen licensing around the world

Thanks for the info.

Reba · 01-15-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

In the Deep South it has always been age 14 and up north it has always been age 16.

In the "Deep South" of South Carolina, it is 15 for a beginner's license.

Reba · 01-15-2006, 01:50 PM

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France
No licensing until age 18, but teens can begin driver training at 16 if they sign a contract that's also signed by a driving school and a supervisor. During this period, teens must drive at least 12 mph below speed limits. One study of this practice, though, found it had no effect on the likelihood of crashes.

Yikes, I don't want to be stuck behind those drivers on a two-lane road!

pek1 · 01-15-2006, 07:04 PM

I learned how to drive when I was 16. In my lifetime already (I'll be 43 on March 8), I have only had maybe 4 speeding tickets and, the Thursday before Christmas, had my second accident. The first one was 21 years ago either this month or next. The first accident I was at fault, the second one, other driver was. I have been noticing way too many young drivers either talking on their cell phones while driving or wearing sunglasses or hats. One company I drove truck for, my trainer told me, "No sunglasses, as I want to see your eyes at all times." I concur.

mlkshkgrl · 01-15-2006, 08:50 PM

Full drivers license is permitted at age 14 in South Dakota.

I think thats too young. I think 18 is a good age.

Reba · 01-16-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mlkshkgrl

Full drivers license is permitted at age 14 in South Dakota.

I think thats too young. I think 18 is a good age.

According to the official South Dakota state website it is age 16 for a full drivers license:

Restricted Minor’s Permit — To obtain a Restricted Minor’s Permit, you must be at least 14 years of age and pass the vision, knowledge, and driving test, complete the requirements of the Instruction Permit, and have not been convicted of a traffic violation during the past six months prior to obtaining the Restricted Minor’s Permit. An individual up to age 18 years of age may hold a Restricted Minor’s Permit. The permit is valid for 5 years, for a cost of $8.00.

Restrictions: Entitles the holder, while having the permit in his immediate physical possession, to operate a motor vehicle during the hours of 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. if the motor vehicle is being operated with the permission of the minor’s parent or legal guardian; and during the hours of 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. if the minor’s parent or legal guardian is occupying a seat beside the driver. Upon attaining age 18, permit converts to Operator’s License.

Operator’s License — To obtain an Operator’s License, you must be at least 16 years of age and pass the vision, knowledge, and driving test If a minor is at least 16 years of age, but under 18 years of age, they must complete the requirements of the Instruction Permit and have not been convicted of a traffic violation during the past six months prior to obtaining the Operator’s License. The license is valid for 5 years, for a cost of $8.00. To renew an Operator’s License you must pass the vision test.

Liebling:-))) · 01-17-2006, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennis

1) The majority of accidents happen when you combine inexperienced drivers with distractions (passengers, music, late at night and feeling tired, cell phones, and so on). How old should someone be to get a license if the car was completely automated, with very little input from the driver?

Yes, it's not just alochol, anyone blame to cause car accdients but immature ways (car races, etc).

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2) I wouldn't need a driver's license if I had good public transportation around here! Of course there isn't in the U.S., so I had to get my license as soon as possible to get anywhere!

Well, I rather to drive my children to anywhere... no matter either there're good or bad transportation around here. Safety is Safety

I want my children learn their experiments first and also consider their education and respect laws etc before let them to learn to drive. This is a safety.

Liebling:-))) · 01-17-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeWoman77

yea, i was shocked i didn know about in Ukraine

all my family n relatives dont have own car but uncle who used to be air force has truck

Ukraine? May I correct you that it's Germany I live, not Ukraine

Liebling:-))) · 01-17-2006, 05:12 AM

Some of your posts got me wondering... May I ask you questions?

Who pays teenagers to get driving liecsne?

Who pays teenagers to get driving exam?

Who pays teenagers to have car?

Who cover the car insurance & tax for the teenagers because the car insurance and tax for teenagers are very high?

Who pay gasoline for them?

The teenagers will never learn if the parents pays everything for them.

The teenagers have no money to pay anything... Right?

That's why we support driving legal age 18 because they earn from 3 years training course which it's easier for them to save up to pay driving lesson fee... Most parents support with second hand car for starter after their children pass driving theroy and exam. They learn to manage with car gasoline, insurance etc thru training course, money allowance from parents, job or unemployment benefit.

My children already learn how to manage with money thru monthly allowance from us an earlier age which it's good. It's not just them but other children, too.

There're common for people to use bikes in Germany because they take care of enivornment-friendly.

Heath · 01-17-2006, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Well, I rather to drive my children to anywhere... no matter either there're good or bad transportation around here. Safety is Safety

I want my children learn their experiments first and also consider their education and respect laws etc before let them to learn to drive. This is a safety.

Hi Liebling , that is a good way of thinking like that so that the kids will learn how to make good transportation choices. I know for sure that if I get married and have kids then my son will floor the gas on the car , all guys do when they are teenage boys. I can only hope they have safety in mind, good weather, no cars or people around and no cops around to take the car for a very fast spin and then I hate to say it but I hope my son learns from another people's mistakes while he is in high school and hears of friends being in drunk driving crashes , hopefully none of them are fatal but that it opens his eyes to what is up with driving and how to respect the car or truck as his mode of transportation to work or school or go back home etc. I would have to instruct the kids in a good way so that they will remember what I said. Being a father to a teenage son is going to be not that very easy. Whew , man !!!

Cheri · 01-17-2006, 06:56 AM

I notice Heath didn't answer my question on page 2.

Heath · 01-17-2006, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Do you have a link to back up your claim that in the North there are more teenagers accidents than South?

To answer your question on page 2 ....Cheri, It is common knowledge that the north has more car accidents than in the South.

Cheri · 01-17-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

To answer your question on page 2 ....Cheri, It is common knowledge that the north has more car accidents than in the South.

Common knowledge? How come I haven't heard? That's why I asked you to provide fact from the webite, and looks like you couldn't it, then don't post false statement without something to back your claim up with.

Heath · 01-17-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Common knowledge? How come I haven't heard? That's why I asked you to provide fact from the webite, and looks like you couldn't it, then don't post false statement without something to back your claim up with.

It is not a false statement. It is commonknowledge. Even the hearing people know that is commonknowledge.

Just drive through the Deep South sometimes and you will see why then drive in the Northern states.

01-17-2006, 07:37 AM

Do you know that farm kids at age of 12-15 still drive disel heavy-duty tractor/wheat combine equipment?

That's why the farmers can not afford to pay expensive manual labor to non-family people. Of course, they do not need to have a driver license for operating on the farm corps. However, they are not permitted to drive on the public roads. The farmers are aware that the kids are dangerous to the heavy equipments.

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Ages 12 to 14
This age group can potentially be most at risk as many adolescents are greatly influenced by peer pressure, are rapidly growing, but lack coordination and possess an intense desire to impress others. Often, they participate in risky activities and reject parental supervision. To keep these children safe, the Kansas SAFE KIDS Coalition suggests the following:

Set clear and consistent rules and discuss the consequences and rewards. Make sure that adolescents understand the job to be performed and how to do it properly and safely. Parents should still consider working side-by-side with children, while monitoring their comprehension and task performance.

Enroll adolescents in equipment safety courses. Children should not operate any power equipment until they have been properly trained. This type of instruction will help teens develop strong safety habits while they perform the tasks.

Gradually increase the use of supplies and tools. Teach children how to properly use small power equipment, such as hand tools, based on training, maturity, and readiness to handle them.

Never allow young adolescents to operate tractors, all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) or other heavy machinery.

Prohibit them from lifting heavy boxes, crates or other objects. Lifting can inflict excessive strain and lead to possible injury.

Children are a valuable resource for farm work, and proper safety and training can help minimize the risk of injury. However, children learn best by watching adults, and it's imperative for parents and caregivers to consistently perform tasks properly and enforce safety at all times.

Dennis · 01-17-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

It is not a false statement. It is commonknowledge. Even the hearing people know that is commonknowledge.

Just drive through the Deep South sometimes and you will see why then drive in the Northern states.

Good joke, poking fun at the slow, retarded drivers of the South, Heath.

Oh, well, if you were actually serious, then you really need to back your statement up.

GalaxyAngel · 01-17-2006, 08:34 AM

Heath, shudd'up about south south south.. confirm WHERE?

------------------------------------------------------------
Liebling's asking question...
Some of your posts got me wondering... May I ask you questions?
shoot me!

Who pays teenagers to get driving liecsne?
We pay for it at the once

Who pays teenagers to get driving exam?
We pay for it at the once too.

Who pays teenagers to have car?
We'll buy used car at the once as gift 1st congrats new driver. If My teenager son or daughter's fault went into accident then we'll not going buy another used car. Get their own pocket expense!

Who cover the car insurance & tax for the teenagers because the car insurance and tax for teenagers are very high?
Under our auto insurance for a year only max.. get their own auto insurance.

Who pay gasoline for them?
MY teenager son or daughter's allowance 40 dollars a week that is it..no more paying extra another short notice.

Otherwise, If My teenager son or daughter have a job.. perfect we will not going give $ their allowance which can earn money from their work decent. And also pay their own auto insurance, gas and used car...

IslandGal · 01-17-2006, 10:52 AM

To answer some of your questions, Liebling......
There are several teenagers, who have worked during their summer holidays and/or doing some odd jobs in their neighborhood such as mowing lawns, raking up leaves, painting, etc, have saved up their money earned from doing these jobs. They would pay for drivers licence and buy an used car if they can afford to. Keep in your mind that a drivers licence here is not as expensive as it is in your country. If they didn't have any money they are willing to wait until they graduate from high school to find a job to buy a car and to pay for drivers licence. Some parents are willing to help them out but some parents rather for them to earn their own money to buy the car, get a drivers licence, pay insurance, and so on.

01-17-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

To answer some of your questions, Liebling......
There are several teenagers, who have worked during their summer holidays and/or doing some odd jobs in their neighborhood such as mowing lawns, raking up leaves, painting, etc, have saved up their money earned from doing these jobs. They would pay for drivers licence and buy an used car if they can afford to. Keep in your mind that a drivers licence here is not as expensive as it is in your country. If they didn't have any money they are willing to wait until they graduate from high school to find a job to buy a car and to pay for drivers licence. Some parents are willing to help them out but some parents rather for them to earn their own money to buy the car, get a drivers licence, pay insurance, and so on.

Ha ha ha ha...

That reminds of my life. I worked as a baseball maintance crew for public baseball/softball park. Of course, I have a driver license at age of 16. I told my mother that how am I gonna to earn money in order to purchase the car. My parents had to drop and pick me up at the job. During the hot summer, they realized that they are getting tired of it, and they decided to sell me their 1976 Ford Pinto (AD, hush up) in order to purchase their better car.....

webexplorer · 01-17-2006, 01:38 PM

I think that a legal age for driving could be 16 years old.

I strongly believe that it does not require for young kids to get the license to drive a big machine on a farm. I never thought that some farmers cannot afford to hire someone from outside the family. I do not see a problem having someone in the family to take care of the farm. They rather to enjoy riding on a big machine like the old' days.

01-17-2006, 02:51 PM

According to the voting polls...

For questions to the parents of kids at age of 17+,

Are you going to drive your kids to work daily especially full time jobs during hot summer?
Are you willing to pick your kids at 2:45 A.M. at your friends’ homes every weekend especially school projects daily at the library or friends’ homes?
If you work full time, do you really have time to drive your kids anywhere for their requests?

For the questions to the parents of kids at age of 20+,

Are you willing to drive your kids to college daily?
Are you willing to pick your kids at work after end of second or third shift?
Are you willing to drop and pick them up at the mall anytime?
If you work full time, how are you going to mange your kids’ requests?

Hey Cherri, ready to answer?

pek1 · 01-17-2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath

Hi Liebling , that is a good way of thinking like that so that the kids will learn how to make good transportation choices. I know for sure that if I get married and have kids then my son will floor the gas on the car , all guys do when they are teenage boys. I can only hope they have safety in mind, good weather, no cars or people around and no cops around to take the car for a very fast spin and then I hate to say it but I hope my son learns from another people's mistakes while he is in high school and hears of friends being in drunk driving crashes , hopefully none of them are fatal but that it opens his eyes to what is up with driving and how to respect the car or truck as his mode of transportation to work or school or go back home etc. I would have to instruct the kids in a good way so that they will remember what I said. Being a father to a teenage son is going to be not that very easy. Whew , man !!!

Teenage daughters, too. And, don't forget the seatbelt must be on!!

Reba · 01-17-2006, 07:28 PM

I live and drive in the South every day, and I see plenty of accidents, especially when it rains. I don't know which region has more accidents. I did read a government report that there are more accidents in rural areas than urban.

Also, many of the drivers in this area of the South are actually Northern transplants and snow birds, so I don't know how that figures into the equation.

It seems that our car insurance rates are high here, so I would guess that means SC drivers are not the greatest.

Reba · 01-17-2006, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Who pays teenagers to get driving liecsne?

Who pays teenagers to get driving exam?

Who pays teenagers to have car?

Who cover the car insurance & tax for t

View Poll Results: At what age do you think people should be permitted to have a driver's license?
Driving legal at age 16	35	46.05%
Driving legal at age 18	28	36.84%
Driving legal at age 21	11	14.47%
Any other ages than 16, 18 and 21 ?	2	2.63%
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

01-15-2006, 07:04 PM	#36 (permalink)
pek1 Professional Writer. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota. Posts: 3,360	I learned how to drive when I was 16. In my lifetime already (I'll be 43 on March 8), I have only had maybe 4 speeding tickets and, the Thursday before Christmas, had my second accident. The first one was 21 years ago either this month or next. The first accident I was at fault, the second one, other driver was. I have been noticing way too many young drivers either talking on their cell phones while driving or wearing sunglasses or hats. One company I drove truck for, my trainer told me, "No sunglasses, as I want to see your eyes at all times." I concur. __________________ Pete America: Love it or leave it. Send Obama to the unemployment office on November 4, 2008.

01-15-2006, 08:50 PM	#37 (permalink)
mlkshkgrl One of Foamy's minions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Whoville Posts: 1,042	Full drivers license is permitted at age 14 in South Dakota. I think thats too young. I think 18 is a good age. __________________

01-17-2006, 06:56 AM	#43 (permalink)
Cheri Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 20,755	I notice Heath didn't answer my question on page 2. __________________

01-17-2006, 08:34 AM	#49 (permalink)
GalaxyAngel That's me! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 13,515	Heath, shudd'up about south south south.. confirm WHERE? ------------------------------------------------------------ Liebling's asking question... Some of your posts got me wondering... May I ask you questions? shoot me! Who pays teenagers to get driving liecsne? We pay for it at the once Who pays teenagers to get driving exam? We pay for it at the once too. Who pays teenagers to have car? We'll buy used car at the once as gift 1st congrats new driver. If My teenager son or daughter's fault went into accident then we'll not going buy another used car. Get their own pocket expense! Who cover the car insurance & tax for the teenagers because the car insurance and tax for teenagers are very high? Under our auto insurance for a year only max.. get their own auto insurance. Who pay gasoline for them? MY teenager son or daughter's allowance 40 dollars a week that is it..no more paying extra another short notice. Otherwise, If My teenager son or daughter have a job.. perfect we will not going give $ their allowance which can earn money from their work decent. And also pay their own auto insurance, gas and used car... __________________ Parent's proud our children.

01-15-2006, 12:29 PM	#31 (permalink)
IslandGal Hi ya! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 4,292	I voted age 16.

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01-17-2006, 05:12 AM	#41 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 25,671	Some of your posts got me wondering... May I ask you questions? Who pays teenagers to get driving liecsne? Who pays teenagers to get driving exam? Who pays teenagers to have car? Who cover the car insurance & tax for the teenagers because the car insurance and tax for teenagers are very high? Who pay gasoline for them? The teenagers will never learn if the parents pays everything for them. The teenagers have no money to pay anything... Right? That's why we support driving legal age 18 because they earn from 3 years training course which it's easier for them to save up to pay driving lesson fee... Most parents support with second hand car for starter after their children pass driving theroy and exam. They learn to manage with car gasoline, insurance etc thru training course, money allowance from parents, job or unemployment benefit. My children already learn how to manage with money thru monthly allowance from us an earlier age which it's good. It's not just them but other children, too. There're common for people to use bikes in Germany because they take care of enivornment-friendly.

01-17-2006, 10:52 AM	#50 (permalink)
IslandGal Hi ya! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 4,292	To answer some of your questions, Liebling...... There are several teenagers, who have worked during their summer holidays and/or doing some odd jobs in their neighborhood such as mowing lawns, raking up leaves, painting, etc, have saved up their money earned from doing these jobs. They would pay for drivers licence and buy an used car if they can afford to. Keep in your mind that a drivers licence here is not as expensive as it is in your country. If they didn't have any money they are willing to wait until they graduate from high school to find a job to buy a car and to pay for drivers licence. Some parents are willing to help them out but some parents rather for them to earn their own money to buy the car, get a drivers licence, pay insurance, and so on.

01-17-2006, 01:38 PM	#52 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 3,366	I think that a legal age for driving could be 16 years old. I strongly believe that it does not require for young kids to get the license to drive a big machine on a farm. I never thought that some farmers cannot afford to hire someone from outside the family. I do not see a problem having someone in the family to take care of the farm. They rather to enjoy riding on a big machine like the old' days.

01-17-2006, 02:51 PM	#53 (permalink)
Mookie Guest Posts: n/a	According to the voting polls... For questions to the parents of kids at age of 17+, Are you going to drive your kids to work daily especially full time jobs during hot summer? Are you willing to pick your kids at 2:45 A.M. at your friends’ homes every weekend especially school projects daily at the library or friends’ homes? If you work full time, do you really have time to drive your kids anywhere for their requests? For the questions to the parents of kids at age of 20+, Are you willing to drive your kids to college daily? Are you willing to pick your kids at work after end of second or third shift? Are you willing to drop and pick them up at the mall anytime? If you work full time, how are you going to mange your kids’ requests? Hey Cherri, ready to answer?

01-17-2006, 07:28 PM	#55 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 16,396	I live and drive in the South every day, and I see plenty of accidents, especially when it rains. I don't know which region has more accidents. I did read a government report that there are more accidents in rural areas than urban. Also, many of the drivers in this area of the South are actually Northern transplants and snow birds, so I don't know how that figures into the equation. It seems that our car insurance rates are high here, so I would guess that means SC drivers are not the greatest.