Mookie

Who started on CSA flag thread?

Deafness

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AJ

i dont care what ur opinions are on this issue, ive stated my opinion on this subject that this is the southern cross flag and im proud to be a southerner and this flag of mine stands for pride of the south. and im going to keep the flag as my signature on AD.

Mookie

Let me assist your proper English langauge, boyish reballious surfer

"It's a Southern thing, y'all wouldn't understand"

Mookie

If I accept your rebel flag, would you accept nazi flag?

Steel X

I wonder what does Rebel girl has to say about this too since she lives in the south, as well?

AJ

i dont fly the rebel flag, i fly the Southern Cross.

u forgot to read the history on it.

Steel X

this should be interesting

Mookie

Ok. Let me rephrase the question.

If I accept "Southern Cross" flag, would you accept the Nazi flag?

AJ

and im not a boy, and im not a rebel. and if u ask me, ur the one being childish.

AJ

im not a nazi...are u?

Mookie

that's not a right answer. Just give me Yes or No..

AJ

no i have no association with that.i dont live in germany. and im only like 1 percent german.

Brian

My father's great grandfathers and some male relatives fought in the wars. He (my father) was proud being a Southerner. But he never wore anything with the Conferate Flag nor would he allow such on his property.

One of my mother's uncle was a long-time klansman. But from what I understand from stories told about him, that he and his group weren't racists, they only took actions against men that abused women.

I, for one wouldn't be caught dead owning anything with Conferate Flag, nor would I hang out with people wearing anything representing the flag! I only have some issues with some people like the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

AJ

speaking of Rebel i haven't seen her around here for awhile. where she at?

C.C.Sinned

I'm not turning this into a hissy fit. Stating my opinion of you. You claim your not a liberal. Yet your statments through out your time on AD have sure come across as that. BTW Slaves came over to this country under these flags -

So that makes them racisit as well...

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apathrev

Just because my liberal views have come across on here does not make me liberal. I'm actually very moderate.

Slaves were first brought over on Dutch ships, then English. There were tribes in Africa that helped Europeans to capture slaves because bounties were offered, they thought they were being taken to better places, and it meant more land for them.

AJ

well buddy u dont want to come visit where i live because everyone has at least one confederate flag tshirt in their closet. or one bumper sticker of the flag on their truck.

AJ

mld u still haven't answered my question, i asked u why u want to keep the flag as a racist statement. it seems u like it that way. why dont u want to change its meaning?

Mookie

So you already said, "No."

the last question for you is would you accept the person proudly display on the deaf forum, workplace, school or even your neighbor street?

I will be gone soon for a day.

If you answer No, why do you bother to show Rebal Flag to everyone in face or ADs' views. There are also ADs in colors (Africans, Asians, America Natives, Haspinics) know you are the proud of (your theme perference) "Southern Cross." I wish you good success if you make new color friends....

By the way, I am 45% of German....

AJ

u still need to answer my question dude.

C.C.Sinned

Liberal view make you a liberal...
ban that flag as well
My point is this entire country was built on slavery not just the south. Just because some people assoiate the CBF as rasisit. Only proves how much more we need to teach about the war

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AJ

and to be very honest i dont know how id feel about someone flying a nazi flag. if it was flown with hate hell yeah id say take that flag down. but if it was someone like me trying to change the meaning of it...id have to think about it. like i said to be honest i dont know how i would feel about that.

Steel X

I think it was the spanish ships that bought the slaves.

AJ

i live in a spanish state.

Mookie

Did I say I do or keep the Nazi flag? No, I was trying to explian the points but somehow you were streaming out but did not read carefully or can't think straight....

My wife is from South Africa and she had bad experiences with White People in South Africa. She witnessed how white police officer abusing black people. I do clearly understand how she feels. My mother-in-law was first time scared to see my white face that reminds her horrible experience with white power policitians and white police officers. Finally, she is happy with me as being son-in-law who does not view in hated world.

How about your pride of rebal flag for protecting the nation and the black slaves?

apathrev

Of course liberal views make you liberal, but I do not have solely liberal views. As I've said, I'm very moderate. Because I like Bush, does that make me Liberal? No. Don't think you know my entire way of thinking just because of posts I've made on an internet message board.

I never said ban the flag, but it is closely associated with racism, and I do not think it is possible to change that perception at this point in time. Is it possible to change society's view of the cross or swastika? I don't think it is.

Pre-United States was built on slavery, but it died out in the North shortly after the Revolutionary War, because a change of major industries. During all of the 1800s, the South depended on slave labor to support its economy.

Steel X

Yep. Florida was orginally owned by a spanish colony and named the state "Florida" after the flowers 'til the english colony made a deal with the spanish colony and bought its land when the spanish needs alot of money for their own land anyway lol

AJ

there are white cops that beat the hell out of black people in the united states of america.

AJ

i tell u what dude....if RR or Alex or any other mod tells me to get rid of my southern cross flag, ill get rid of it.

apathrev

I think you might be confusing the Spanish enslavement of the natives in the West Indies. But what you say does ring a bell, I'll research it and get back to you, You might be right. I do know that first the Dutch dominated the slave trade, but I did not look up the first. My mistake.