Tipping System - Page 8

C.C.Sinned · 05-13-2008, 08:20 AM

cheapskates

**Liebling:-)))** · 05-13-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Opal

Received it in my email for you all to read below -

WAITRESS ARRESTED FOR CREDIT CARD FRAUD, COMPLAINED THAT DEAF DON'T TIP

Washington, DC. Police have taken into custody a former waitress at G&G II Italian restaurant, she will be charged with credit card fraud, a felony, after receiving several complaints from Gallaudet students for unauthorized charges on their account. In the intake court hearing, the waitress complained to the judge that Gallaudet students who frequented her restaurant never leave a tip, and that she is struggling to make ends meet as a single mother of two. "These Deaf students are able to afford a $30 meal, if only they can put down $3, just 10%, that will be enough, but often my children goes to school hungry." The waitress was released on bail, and ordered to pay an restitution to all those affected. Washington Post investigators noted that the waitress always add the tip to the credit card without the student knowledge, this was able to go on quite awhile as students often don't bother to check the receipts they signed. The judge ordered that postings be put up on the Gallaudet campus, notifying them that anyone who was a victim of the crime, to send a copy of the credit bill to the court within 30 days. The waitress made a plea bargaining that she will reimburse the students 23%, 15% as normal tip, 8% as punitive compensation, plus 42 cents postage (new rate). It ain't much but it can be significant for those who frequented the establishment. The judge took this step in an effort to avoid having them file a class-action lawsuit, which will be a burden on the already backlogged court system. University officials are planning to add "tipping" workshops in their orientation program for incoming Freshmen in the fall.

It´s a feeble excuse to blame deafies for poor tipping... *sigh

*

Why do she continue to work as waitress when she know in first place that tipping system is not an obligation. Right? If yes, then no excuse to blame anybody for poor tipping but herself... If she know what kind of job waitress work then look for better job.

If she keep on complaint then job is not right for her.

PowerON · 05-13-2008, 08:25 AM

I tend tip average 5 bucks on two two: me and my friend or date.

WhisperHorse · 05-13-2008, 09:21 AM

Wow.. That's suck...

My sister worked as Waitress and I'd been seeing how earn she gets money from paycheck and tips... Tips always being very high than paychecks because she earns tips everyday when she works but paycheck in every two weeks and it's still low and not enough for her bills, gas, kids and everything. Good thing that they do get tips to help them out than leaving them suffer...

For me to leaving tip, just more depend on how their works and respect for customers. I will decide from my mind to leaving how much tip for them if their work is great and their respect for me is good enough then I will leave more than 5 dollars or so, depends how much on the food that I pay for. If lousy then could be one dollar or nothing with the note to tell them the reason why I leave them a dollar or nothing, they will understand and improve themselves. I think it's helping.

**Reba** · 05-13-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker

It isn't hard to find another job dude and plus, if she doesnt' like it, she can quit and find another job or work 2 jobs, she doesn't really need my tip but if she really really needs it, I'll give her a penny, that's better than no tip

I hope that you're kidding, and just trying to get a rise out of us.

**Reba** · 05-13-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker

Oh yeah, forgot one more thing, even she works for below the minmum wage, it doesn't give her the right to charge to credit cards for tips without the owners' credit cards permission

That's true. But that still doesn't excuse patrons from leaving tips.

**Reba** · 05-13-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker

Wait a minute! You didn't realize that the waitress could be giving horrible service that she doesnt' get any tips because of it

If her service is horrible, customers should complain to the manager so she can be fired. Apparently, her service was not terrible because the customers kept coming back.

SxyPorkie · 05-13-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker

I forgot to add one more thing, I never tip to waitress, I just feel that they have a paycheck that they earned and they don't need my tip, that is just my opinion, the only thing I tip is strippers

You got wrong opinion... my daughter used to be a waitness... said she got paid about 1.29 per hour and she depended on tips to make the ends meet...

Boult · 05-13-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozzie

I thought it was law in the US to tip?

see this

Tipping by region - US

Some restaurants include an automatic service charge (not to be confused with a discretionary tip or gratuity) on the bill for parties of six or more, while a rare few include an automatic charge for all bills.

Boult · 05-13-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozzie

Fair enough for those with low wages in US. I still don't like this tipping business at all as in Australia and New Zealand, tipping is non-existent. Therefore, it's foreign to me.

see this for Oceania
Tipping by region - Oceania

Boult · 05-13-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

It´s a feeble excuse to blame deafies for poor tipping... *sigh

*

Why do she continue to work as waitress when she know in first place that tipping system is not an obligation. Right? If yes, then no excuse to blame anybody for poor tipping but herself... If she know what kind of job waitress work then look for better job.

If she keep on complaint then job is not right for her.

Actually no, if those students don't expect to tip any at this specific place, then they shouldn't go there in first place. but you see they can afford a $30 meal there! just add $1 then it is $31 nothing wrong!

but glad that Gallaudet will have a workshop! Good!

Byrdie714 · 05-13-2008, 10:14 AM

What are Gallaudet University students doing, having $ 30.00 meals?

They're in college, they're suppose to be "the poor struggling college student." Sounds to me that the students are spoiled.

The waitress is right, deaf people are horrible at tipping but that doesn't excuse her for what she did.

deafclimber · 05-13-2008, 10:30 AM

i know some friends are cheap and selfish. sometimes i tip more when i see my deaf friends tip too little or nothing. that is really embarrased.

Royale · 05-13-2008, 12:24 PM

I always tip well to waitresses and waiters only if they serve me and/or my friends well with good attitude. If not, they get no tips, period.

In some states, the restaurants can add about 15 percent gratuity tax to the bills instead of getting tips.

Royale · 05-13-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

It's an embarrassment for me because I'm deaf, and thanks to those Deaf Gallaudet students for being a lousy tipper. It is considered rude to not to tip, Waiters and Waitresses work their asses off, and and is this a thanks they get? Don't be surprised if you're a regular customer, and the waitress/waiter knows that you don't tip, you will not get a good service. I wouldn't want to be in your place. I've always tip, even if the service was poor I give them 10 percent, if the service was so so, I will give them 15 percent, if the service was excellent, I would give them 20 to 30 percent.

Do not assume too much about the Gally students.

I am familiar with the G G restaurant. Some bartenders and waitresses tend to show their bad attitudes toward the students for no apparent reasons. Trust me. I saw it happened so many times.

Did you know that the D.C. Department of Health and FDA a few times ordered the G G Restaurant to close for a short time of period cuz it violated the D.C. Health and Food Safety acts and laws in the past?

**Cheri** · 05-13-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by deafclimber

i know some friends are cheap and selfish. sometimes i tip more when i see my deaf friends tip too little or nothing. that is really embarrased.

I agree it is so embarrassment.

If the service was lousy or poor, I would take it up to the management, but I'll still tip that waitress or waiter, but only would get 10 percent. So that the waitresses or waiters can improve their quality of service for their next customers if they want better tips.

**Cheri** · 05-13-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Do not assume too much about the Gally students.

The article stated it, so take your complain up to them, not to me.

Boult · 05-13-2008, 12:40 PM

Related topic on tipping can be found in this thread:
Tipping System

**highlands** · 05-13-2008, 12:43 PM

In my country, we don't tip..The waitress or waiter gets a fixed wage and the bill includes all .

jillio · 05-13-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozzie

I thought it was law in the US to tip?

Some places do put an automatic gatuity on the bill of 15% of the charges. However, they have to let customers know up front that a tip will automatically be charged. Not all business do that. In fact, most don't.

jillio · 05-13-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Do not assume too much about the Gally students.

I am familiar with the G G restaurant. Some bartenders and waitresses tend to show their bad attitudes toward the students for no apparent reasons. Trust me. I saw it happened so many times.

Did you know that the D.C. Department of Health and FDA a few times ordered the G G Restaurant to close for a short time of period cuz it violated the D.C. Health and Food Safety acts and laws in the past?

If the GG restaurant has employees that demonstrate a bad attitude toward the deaf students, then the deaf students need to stop giving them their business.

On the other hand, the deaf students could be getting a bad attitude because they don't tip.

**Cheri** · 05-13-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

If the GG restaurant has employees that demonstrate a bad attitude toward the deaf students, then the deaf students need to stop giving them their business.

On the other hand, the deaf students could be getting a bad attitude because they don't tip.

Freaky Cat · 05-13-2008, 12:57 PM

That sucks. My sister Dorrie is a waitress at a bar and grill. She doesnt get paid much depend on tips to make the ends meet for bills and etc. She worked at the restaurant 18 years now. She is at better level than when she first started working... it was like 1.75.. i think.. and now its over 7 dollars per hours.. its long way to go..

sometimes when she get busy and need help. I usually helped her out and do get tips in process. I worked in the kitchen and do get tipped. I made more than the waitresses n bartenders? so i share the tips with waitresses and bartenders. all i did was cooked the foods? so wanted to share with them ...

There were few deafies that came over to eat and they didnt tip? my sister said why they dont tip? I siad i dont know? I never understand why?

just like when I went out to Shorty Small's with deaf friends and they didnt tip the waitress? I did tipped the waitress? my friend found the gratituty on her recipet and wanted the waitress to remove it? She said she didnt get the service? The sign said more than 6 people they will get gratituty tips? she still complained about it? I was so embarrassed about it. the manager came over and asked whats wrong? She said remove that? the manager said no if you had looked at the sign you will see that more than 6 people gratiuty tips are included. She got upset. after they left.. i apologized to the manager and the waitress.. They said its ok.. i still felt bad about that day..

Do i go out with that group of deaf frineds again? No I dont. I dont want to be in their company and be embarrassed again. Forget it... sigh..

Still the waitress who forged the credit card did wrong.. .. she should have put it up with the managements and asked the boss what to do?? maybe manager can tell the deaf people if they wont tip next time then they wont get service or something.

sleepytaz · 05-13-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by horselover61

We had a horrible watier. RR spoke to the manager and the manager got a different waitress. So we were happy and tip her well.

See the waiter was so rude and have no patience with us as a deafies. He was tapping his pen on a pad and his eyes was rolling around. He took off and be gone for a long time then come back. Geez so that is why we decided to get a different waitress.

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Originally Posted by Cheri

It's an embarrassment for me because I'm deaf, and . It is considered rude to not to tip, Waiters and Waitresses work their asses off, and and is this a thanks they get? Don't be surprised if you're a regular customer, and the waitress/waiter knows that you don't tip, you will not get a good service. I wouldn't want to be in your place. I've always tip, even if the service was poor I give them 10 percent, if the service was so so, I will give them 15 percent, if the service was excellent, I would give them 20 to 30 percent.

For me, as Cheri said that I put in bold, I do that type of tipping... and if the waitress/waiter was awful, I would report to the manager and request for other person to serve me. I'd rather to be able to enjoy myself at where I am and tip good hard-working people. I usually love to watch the surprises on their faces when they get high tips! tee hee!

If you're a regular and you give high tips, they will treat you really well! For example: a local pizza place in my town, the first time I went, I gave the waitress really high tip... I went back again... again, high tip... the whole resturant knew and were beaming. The owner would give me free dessert, have some things on the house sometimes (free) when I order out. That's what I mean, if you treat them well, you will be treated just as well or better!

Tip tip tip!

**Cheri** · 05-13-2008, 01:28 PM

sleepytaz, Yea sometimes I do ask for another waitress sometimes I don't because I would like to give that waitress a chance to improve.

What horselover61 was speaking of, I was there with them, that waiter was very rude he had no patiences, he kept rolling his eyes back, tapping his pen on the ordering booklet. We were very patient with him until it got to the point where it was enough because his attitude was inappropriate.

**Chase** · 05-13-2008, 01:50 PM

The deaf are not at fault . . . and neither are the vast number of servers for a stupid system that is way out of control. People depend so much on a gratuity that they believe it is a right.

Think about it. It is an added tax on goods and service. It's nothing more than taxation without representation. Only it's not from a government; it's from those who want customers to make their poorly paid help look cheerful while working harder.

The restaurant business isn't the only industry where extra money is expected for nothing more than the help doesn't make as much as they think they should.

I avoid the demand for tips by not eating out unless those I'm dining with know we must pay a 20% additional tax no matter how good or bad the service may be. Same with hotels and motels, taxi rides and limo service, designer coffee, et cetera ad nauseam.

Ha ha ha, maybe I'm just upset we teachers didn't get to act sullen and spread the word about parents and students who didn't leave a few bills on my desk every day.

**lilylover72** · 05-13-2008, 01:54 PM

I would be so embrass that if deaf people wont pay tips. I pay tips every time I go out for eat.

sleepytaz · 05-13-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

sleepytaz, Yea sometimes I do ask for another waitress sometimes I don't because I would like to give that waitress a chance to improve.

What horselover61 was speaking of, I was there with them, that waiter was very rude he had no patiences, he kept rolling his eyes back, tapping his pen on the ordering booklet. We were very patient with him until it got to the point where it was enough because his attitude was inappropriate.

Cheri, I understood Horselover61 and you... what I meant was, same in your situation... if the they contiuned with afwul service, I then would report.

It is not often that I would request for a different person, but rather I would ask the manganger to educate them. I usually refuse their free offer of dessert/coffe ya know as if I wasn't satified and they would offer free food or whatever. I usually would just prefer to educate the waiter/waitress to have a good posure while on the job... off the job, I don't care! haha. Ya know...? Don't bring personal plms to work.

The Highlander · 05-13-2008, 02:55 PM

Gallaudet SUCK!

Give 10% or more to waitress if friendly, listen, and respect.
No tips waitress if rude, careless, won't write on the paper when I ask.

Boult · 05-13-2008, 02:58 PM

I refuse to tip Zero! I will tip less if service sucks but rendered. If I was not served at all then no tip.. hahaha

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WhisperHorse Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 7,706	Wow.. That's suck... My sister worked as Waitress and I'd been seeing how earn she gets money from paycheck and tips... Tips always being very high than paychecks because she earns tips everyday when she works but paycheck in every two weeks and it's still low and not enough for her bills, gas, kids and everything. Good thing that they do get tips to help them out than leaving them suffer... For me to leaving tip, just more depend on how their works and respect for customers. I will decide from my mind to leaving how much tip for them if their work is great and their respect for me is good enough then I will leave more than 5 dollars or so, depends how much on the food that I pay for. If lousy then could be one dollar or nothing with the note to tell them the reason why I leave them a dollar or nothing, they will understand and improve themselves. I think it's helping. __________________ Proud Mommy of my Alexanderia Gayle Born on May 21, 2008 8 lbs 1.4 oz and 21 1/2 inches She's the love of my life. Weight; lose 13 lbs since June 23, 2009 Haven't drink any kind of soda(like pepsi, coke, dr pepper, anyyyy) since July 12, 2009!

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Freaky Cat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Central ArKaNsAs Posts: 10,221	That sucks. My sister Dorrie is a waitress at a bar and grill. She doesnt get paid much depend on tips to make the ends meet for bills and etc. She worked at the restaurant 18 years now. She is at better level than when she first started working... it was like 1.75.. i think.. and now its over 7 dollars per hours.. its long way to go.. sometimes when she get busy and need help. I usually helped her out and do get tips in process. I worked in the kitchen and do get tipped. I made more than the waitresses n bartenders? so i share the tips with waitresses and bartenders. all i did was cooked the foods? so wanted to share with them ... There were few deafies that came over to eat and they didnt tip? my sister said why they dont tip? I siad i dont know? I never understand why? just like when I went out to Shorty Small's with deaf friends and they didnt tip the waitress? I did tipped the waitress? my friend found the gratituty on her recipet and wanted the waitress to remove it? She said she didnt get the service? The sign said more than 6 people they will get gratituty tips? she still complained about it? I was so embarrassed about it. the manager came over and asked whats wrong? She said remove that? the manager said no if you had looked at the sign you will see that more than 6 people gratiuty tips are included. She got upset. after they left.. i apologized to the manager and the waitress.. They said its ok.. i still felt bad about that day.. Do i go out with that group of deaf frineds again? No I dont. I dont want to be in their company and be embarrassed again. Forget it... sigh.. Still the waitress who forged the credit card did wrong.. .. she should have put it up with the managements and asked the boss what to do?? maybe manager can tell the deaf people if they wont tip next time then they wont get service or something. __________________ When you miss me just look up to the night sky and remember, I'm like a star; sometimes you can't see me, but I'm always there! Freaky Cat's Blog

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05-13-2008, 10:14 AM	#222 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,941	What are Gallaudet University students doing, having $ 30.00 meals? They're in college, they're suppose to be "the poor struggling college student." Sounds to me that the students are spoiled. The waitress is right, deaf people are horrible at tipping but that doesn't excuse her for what she did.

05-13-2008, 10:30 AM	#223 (permalink)
deafclimber Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: hotlanta Posts: 3,569	i know some friends are cheap and selfish. sometimes i tip more when i see my deaf friends tip too little or nothing. that is really embarrased.

05-13-2008, 12:24 PM	#224 (permalink)
Royale Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: World's Second Coldest Capital City! Posts: 4,412	I always tip well to waitresses and waiters only if they serve me and/or my friends well with good attitude. If not, they get no tips, period. In some states, the restaurants can add about 15 percent gratuity tax to the bills instead of getting tips.

05-13-2008, 12:43 PM	#229 (permalink)
highlands happily engaged Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: the heart of my love Posts: 4,306	In my country, we don't tip..The waitress or waiter gets a fixed wage and the bill includes all .

05-13-2008, 01:50 PM	#236 (permalink)
Chase Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,320	The deaf are not at fault . . . and neither are the vast number of servers for a stupid system that is way out of control. People depend so much on a gratuity that they believe it is a right. Think about it. It is an added tax on goods and service. It's nothing more than taxation without representation. Only it's not from a government; it's from those who want customers to make their poorly paid help look cheerful while working harder. The restaurant business isn't the only industry where extra money is expected for nothing more than the help doesn't make as much as they think they should. I avoid the demand for tips by not eating out unless those I'm dining with know we must pay a 20% additional tax no matter how good or bad the service may be. Same with hotels and motels, taxi rides and limo service, designer coffee, et cetera ad nauseam. Ha ha ha, maybe I'm just upset we teachers didn't get to act sullen and spread the word about parents and students who didn't leave a few bills on my desk every day.

05-13-2008, 01:54 PM	#237 (permalink)
lilylover72 I love purple! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,943	I would be so embrass that if deaf people wont pay tips. I pay tips every time I go out for eat.

05-13-2008, 02:55 PM	#239 (permalink)
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