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Old 05-13-2008, 03:24 AM   #181 (permalink)
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You are obviously ignorant to the fact that most servers work for below the minimum wage. They need the tips to make the ends meet. Thank you for proving the waitress right.
Oh yeah, forgot one more thing, even she works for below the minmum wage, it doesn't give her the right to charge to credit cards for tips without the owners' credit cards permission
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:24 AM   #182 (permalink)
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I second that, and there is absolutely no excuse for deaf's failure to tip.

Here is the truth, most restaurant jobs waitress wage is around 3 dollars an hour! It is getting harder to earn living if there is no tips around.

Easy to find other job? Your must be kidding! Most good jobs starts from lousy job, waitress is one of them.

It is truly embarassement to Deaf world showing hearing people that we are ignorant.

Based on my experience, every time I give tips, they know me, they give us better service.

Deaf, WAKE UP! quit being ignorant, and being insulting... start to respect and give tip when due.

Finally I don't think this waitress should be paying restitution to Deafies, the Deafies is the one who should have pay for the damage.

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Old 05-13-2008, 03:25 AM   #183 (permalink)
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You still miss the point...

If had Deafies giving tips, will she ever commit this crime? I don't think so.

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Oh yeah, forgot one more thing, even she works for below the minmum wage, it doesn't give her the right to charge to credit cards for tips without the owners' credit cards permission
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:25 AM   #184 (permalink)
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I second that, and there is absolutely no excuse for deaf's failure to tip.

Here is the truth, most restaurant jobs waitress wage is around 3 dollars an hour! It is getting harder to earn living if there is no tips around.

Easy to find other job? Your must be kidding! Most good jobs starts from lousy job, waitress is one of them.

It is truly embarassement to Deaf world showing hearing people that we are ignorant.

Based on my experience, every time I give tips, they know me, they give us better service.

Deaf, WAKE UP! quit being ignorant, and being insulting... start to respect and give tip when due.

Finally I don't think this waitress should be paying restitution to Deafies, the Deafies is the one who should have pay for the damage.
Wait a minute! You didn't realize that the waitress could be giving horrible service that she doesnt' get any tips because of it
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:26 AM   #185 (permalink)
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You still miss the point...

If had Deafies giving tips, will she ever commit this crime? I don't think so.
You miss another point, she might be giving horrible service that she doesn't get any tips because of it
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:29 AM   #186 (permalink)
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From what I see, majority of Deafies I have seen dont pay tips. Worse than hearing people.

Want to know how to properly tip waitress?

The best is between 10-20% of the reciept.

IF waitress gives poor service, what to do? Easy, just tip BUT at lower % like maybe 1%, this will tell waitress that I will tip more if you had done good job.

For example, if the reciept calls for 30 dollars, just give 50 cents tip, this is better than zero. That way you can send message that if you do better job I will give more tip. Zero tips tells waitress that they are worthless crap, that is how they view them.

I have done that, and it works!

Zero tipping is sending message as you don't care. low tip that is whole different approach.

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Old 05-13-2008, 03:29 AM   #187 (permalink)
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I thought it was law in the US to tip?
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:31 AM   #188 (permalink)
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I thought it was law in the US to tip?
I don't think so, if it was then people would be arrested for not tipping
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:32 AM   #189 (permalink)
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The tips are based on service and gratuity... the waitress gets a low paying job because they get a lot of tips for the day from customers. No tips is rude and ignorance, if the service is poor, then give less tips. No one is perfect, everyone works hard the best they can. I've always tip the waitress no matter if they do good or poor job.

What the waitress did is a fraud, that's a no no. If she complained that deaf people don't give a tip, either don't serve them, or file complaint at the Gallaudet Officials. She is a mother of two, and struggling to make ends meet which is understandable but putting the tip amount on the receipt without customer knowledge is a forgery and fraud. Good thing she learn lesson and pays them back but on the other hand, the felony is going to be on her record which will not look good for her future reference for another job.
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:33 AM   #190 (permalink)
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No, there is no law in tipping, this is capitalism, government don't control the income, except for minimum wage.
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:35 AM   #191 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, I just remember another thing, isn't working below mininum wage against the law too?
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Not really, know why? Most hearing people knows about it, its common and they hear from waitress or have worked as waitress knew whats going on. So, it won't hurt her reputation as much.

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but on the other hand, it's going to be on her record which will not look good for her future reference for another job.
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:39 AM   #193 (permalink)
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Minimum wage for tipped employment is somewhere 3.50 an hour I think.

Most Deafies don't realize that because not many of them have experience as waitress or had jobs that involved tips. That is the problem, they have no clue which I can understand, but still not an excuse anyway.


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Old 05-13-2008, 03:40 AM   #194 (permalink)
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Not really, know why? Most hearing people knows about it, its common and they hear from waitress or have worked as waitress knew whats going on. So, it won't hurt her reputation as much.
Yeah but I'm bet employers have fired her and the felony makes it hard to find a stable job though. The manager doesn't want to lose customers if they keep her on the job.
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Minimum wage for tipped employment is somewhere 3.50 an hour I think.

Most Deafies don't realize that because not many of them have experience as waitress or had jobs that involved tips. That is the problem, they have no clue which I can understand, but still not an excuse anyway.
Hmm, it must depends on the states..here it's $5.15 an hour but it will go up to $6.55 in July
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Yeah but I'm bet employers have fired her and the felony makes it hard to find a stable job though. The manager doesn't want to lose customers if they keep her on the job.
I agree
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:45 AM   #197 (permalink)
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Do not confuse with standard minimum wage and tipped wages, they are not the same thing.

Standard wage now is 6.15, but when you work with a position that involves tips, your minimum wage will drop to around 3.50 an hour. Why not you go and apply job as waitress and find out for yourself?


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Do not confuse with standard minimum wage and tipped wages, they are not the same thing.

Standard wage now is 6.15, but when you work with a position that involves tips, your minimum wage will drop to around 3.50 an hour. Why not you go and apply job as waitress and find out for yourself?
I would but I already have a job but if I didn't then I would apply and find out for myself
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Applying does not mean you will have to get that job. What I am saying go ahead and apply and find out and you can always tell them thanks for the offer but no thanks.

Or ask anyone that you know who works as waitress, they will tell you.

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I would but I already have a job but if I didn't then I would apply and find out for myself
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Applying does not mean you will have to get that job. What I am saying go ahead and apply and find out and you can always tell them thanks for the offer but no thanks.

Or ask anyone that you know who works as waitress, they will tell you.
Okay, I'll do it today and let you know
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:56 AM   #201 (permalink)
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No, there is no law in tipping, this is capitalism, government don't control the income, except for minimum wage.
Fair enough for those with low wages in US. I still don't like this tipping business at all as in Australia and New Zealand, tipping is non-existent. Therefore, it's foreign to me.
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Old 05-13-2008, 04:52 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Fair enough for those with low wages in US. I still don't like this tipping business at all as in Australia and New Zealand, tipping is non-existent. Therefore, it's foreign to me.
I know how you feel,Ozzie. Every time, I'm in the US, I'm always puzzled how much to leave in tip. I think $2 or above is safe to say, no?

DVDFreaker, this single mother needs a lot of flexibility if she doesn't have family support to mind her kids while she's at work.

You should get this book written by a waitress who talked about how to make ends meet on a minimum wage etc. Don't know the title or name of author, though.

My friend in NYC worked as a waitress and said she gets like $20 per shift plus tips, but she has to share her tips among with the other staff.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:09 AM   #203 (permalink)
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I tips waiteress many times. Depending how good they serve, how kind they are. We are not that picky tho. I'm just a big tipper myself. Sometime I tips 20% to 30% if they are really good. My uncle is one biggest tipper. He tips waiteress over $100 and run off. ( he was a millioniare back then and I witnessed him tipped waiteress over $100 and he told him keep it keep it, I don't want $100!! Go go go LOL.)

It is actually rude not to tip waiteress if they are doing great job. It's not fair for waiteress working hard with low salary and struggling end meets.

I had similiar occassion that 15 years ago, Group of deafie including us went to Steak N Ale restaurant. After dinner, I tipped the waiteress for my own food but rest of deafie (I remmy about 10 to 12 peoples) refuse to tip, some just drop a penny and left. The waiteress was upset over it. The next visit we came. Waiteress were rude and told everyone tip it or don't come back! Wow. Actually, it's deafie fault for being rude at first place.


One time I didn't give ONE waiteress tip becasue he was very rude and unfriendly. We paid for drinks and left the restaurant without ordering food.

If I were millioniare, I would LOVE to watch waiteress's face goes when they see big tips (cash only!!). I would rather tip and run away. LOL.

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Old 05-13-2008, 06:43 AM   #204 (permalink)
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My friend in NYC worked as a waitress and said she gets like $20 per shift plus tips, but she has to share her tips among with the other staff.
I don't agree with this method because other staff could be slacking off on the job while the other work their ass off to get good tips.

In Russia, there's no different minimum wages for waitresses but they often do share the tips with other workers. Generally, Russians normally don't tip but many foreigners do.
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I tips waiteress many times. Depending how good they serve, how kind they are. We are not that picky tho. I'm just a big tipper myself. Sometime I tips 20% to 30% if they are really good. My uncle is one biggest tipper. He tips waiteress over $100 and run off. ( he was a millioniare back then and I witnessed him tipped waiteress over $100 and he told him keep it keep it, I don't want $100!! Go go go LOL.)

It is actually rude not to tip waiteress if they are doing great job. It's not fair for waiteress working hard with low salary and struggling end meets.

I had similiar occassion that 15 years ago, Group of deafie including us went to Steak N Ale restaurant. After dinner, I tipped the waiteress for my own food but rest of deafie (I remmy about 10 to 12 peoples) refuse to tip, some just drop a penny and left. The waiteress was upset over it. The next visit we came. Waiteress were rude and told everyone tip it or don't come back! Wow. Actually, it's deafie fault for being rude at first place.


One time I didn't give ONE waiteress tip becasue he was very rude and unfriendly. We paid for drinks and left the restaurant without ordering food.

If I were millioniare, I would LOVE to watch waiteress's face goes when they see big tips (cash only!!). I would rather tip and run away. LOL.

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If there was no tip then the pay would be at 6.15. And if there was the tip then the pay would be 3.50. Get my drift.

Last summer a day before I fly to NYC. It was in Ohio. We went to Ihop for breakfast and we had a horrible watier. RR spoke to the manager and the manager got a different waitress. So we were happy and tip her well.

See the waiter was so rude and have no patience with us as a deafies. He was tapping his pen on a pad and his eyes was rolling around. He took off and be gone for a long time then come