Tipping System - Page 4

***VamPyroX*** · 08-04-2005, 11:45 AM

Since tips are usually 15%, I do something very simple when paying my restaurant bills. When I receive the check, I check the tax and double it and round it up depending on the total cost of the check. That's my tip. Here's an example:

Cost is $16.12
Tax is $1.37
Sub-total is $17.49
Tip (2x tax) is $2.74
Total (sub-total plus tip) is $20.23

On a scale of 1 to 5 (1 being horrible & 5 being great), I base the total payment depending on the service i received:

1 = $18.00 (2.9%)
2 = $19.00 (8.6%)
3 = $20.00 (14.4%)
4 = $21.00 (20.1%)
5 = $22.00 (25.8%)

In most cases, it's usually 4 or 5 for the service I receive. There has been a couple of times when the service was HORRIBLE!

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Waiter came and asked what we wanted to drink. We ordered drinks. Later, waiter came and asked if we wanted anything. We said, "Yeah, our drinks." He left. Later, waiter came and saw us... then walked off quickly realizing he forgot our drink. Later, waiter finally brought us our drinks. He then asked if we were ready to order food. We ordered our appetizers first. Later, he returned and asked if we wanted dinner. We ordered our dinner. Later, he returned and we already emptied our cups. He took our cups and left. He returned and asked if we wanted anything else. We said, "Yes, our food and drinks." He quickly walked off. Later, he returned with our dinner. Later, he returned with our drinks. Later, he returned with our appetizers. WTF? Why is it called appetizer? Yep, it's a small 'snack' that we eat before we have dinner and it is served about 10 minutes before dinner is served. So, we waited about 20 minutes for our drinks. After that, we waited 1 hour for our dinner. After that, we waited 15 minutes for our appetizer. We were extremely disappointed and gave him a few cents in tips.

From that point on, we never had that guy wait on us again.

DeafBiker4JC · 08-12-2005, 04:26 AM

Im upset with some deaf people because they order $10 worth of food then they just use spare change to tip the waitress and I tell them its not proper and they say well i need my money for other things so i tell them why did they even bother going out in the first place if they cant afford the tip? Its like they're taking advantage of the waitress. Just my 2 pennies.

***VamPyroX*** · 08-13-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafBiker4JC

Im upset with some deaf people because they order $10 worth of food then they just use spare change to tip the waitress and I tell them its not proper and they say well i need my money for other things so i tell them why did they even bother going out in the first place if they cant afford the tip? Its like they're taking advantage of the waitress. Just my 2 pennies.

If you were to stand outside of the dorms at RIT and watch as students come out to pick up their pizzas, you'll notice a couple of things...

Almost all deaf students picking up their pizzas don't leave tips. Almost all hearing students picking up their pizzas do leave tips.

When I asked the deafies why they didn't tip, they said... "I just wanted the pizza, I don't care about their service. *rolls eyes*"

Banjo · 08-13-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafBiker4JC

Im upset with some deaf people because they order $10 worth of food then they just use spare change to tip the waitress and I tell them its not proper and they say well i need my money for other things so i tell them why did they even bother going out in the first place if they cant afford the tip? Its like they're taking advantage of the waitress. Just my 2 pennies.

In Canada, it's often expected of people to tip in coins but that's because we have $1 and $2 coins, not dollar bills.

RedWolf · 08-14-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Since tips are usually 15%, I do something very simple when paying my restaurant bills. When I receive the check, I check the tax and double it and round it up depending on the total cost of the check. That's my tip. Here's an example:

Cost is $16.12
Tax is $1.37
Sub-total is $17.49
Tip (2x tax) is $2.74
Total (sub-total plus tip) is $20.23

On a scale of 1 to 5 (1 being horrible & 5 being great), I base the total payment depending on the service i received:

1 = $18.00 (2.9%)
2 = $19.00 (8.6%)
3 = $20.00 (14.4%)
4 = $21.00 (20.1%)
5 = $22.00 (25.8%)

In most cases, it's usually 4 or 5 for the service I receive. There has been a couple of times when the service was HORRIBLE!From that point on, we never had that guy wait on us again.

ugh! that service is horrible as you just stated in the message!

tribalseer · 10-12-2006, 12:02 PM

I hate to break it to you, but I used to work at a restaurant on Capitol Hill in DC, near Union Station... we got lots of Gallaudet students, and 9 times out of 10 we would either get stiffed or get something like a $2 tip on a $58 tab. It was horrible. It was to the extent that all the waiters and waitresses would do whatever they could to get out of waiting on a table of deaf students.

I finally got fed up with it. One night we had a table of six deaf girls come in and sit on the patio (a very lucrative spot). They were assigned to a new waitress who was a little inexperienced and nervous. After thet'd finished their food and were waiting for their check, Sue asked me if she should add 15% to their check (which was an option for parties 6 and larger). I looked to see what table she was talking about and said "YES. Absolutely."

A few minutes later, she came and found me, with one of the deaf girls trailing behind and obviously flustered. She said, "They said they can't afford to pay the check with the tip added."

I was furious, but I tried to contain myself. "Tell them to pay whatever they can afford," I said. But then I went to the servers' station and wrote a note and took it to their table. The note said "If you can't afford to treat the people who serve you with a little respect, then you shouldn't go out to eat."

Of course they took it to the manager, and a few days later I was fired (reluctantly, I should add -- the manager said I had been a great waiter and had every right to be mad and he'd give me a recommendation anywhere, but I had violated policy nonetheless). I was out of line, but I was absolutely fed up with the treatment we received almost ALL the time from our deaf customers.

Believe me, I am about the last person to ever stereotype a group of people. I am about as liberal as they come, and I don't dislike deaf people in general. And granted that this was almost 14 years ago, so things might possibly have changed. But this is one stereotype that, in my experience, was absolutely true. I didn't experience this on a widespread basis from blind people, or black people, or any other group except for the hearing-impaired.

If deaf people expect to treated like everyone else (a fair expectation), then they should also accept the same responsibilities as everyone else.

Scott

Liebling:-))) · 10-12-2006, 04:15 PM

tribalseer, I hate to say but I has to...

Please don´t blame deafies.. Not just them but hearing as well...

Like what Pvt. Parts said that tips is voluntarily. Yes I can understand that that waitresses/waiter expect 15% to 20% tip from customers but you can´t expect them.

I would suggest you to read the whole thread from 1st page then you will understand where we come from.

Normally employer should pay waitresses/waiters for their work, not rely customers for tips. In Europe, we don´t tip waitress/waiter in any resturants.

Tousi · 10-12-2006, 06:24 PM

Nope, Leibling; Scott is right. That was his experience and mine also , even though I am deaf.

Kuifje75 · 10-12-2006, 09:08 PM

From one of the links posted here...

PAYING THE CHECK & TIPPING | This is almost always done at the table with the waiter or waitress who served you. The foodserver even carries a money pouch to take care of the financial transaction. He or she also receives an automatic 15 percent of the check, included in the price of the meal. This service fee is known as Bedienung. So don’t add on another 10-15 percent! And don’t leave any tip on the table.

This is why you don't tip waiters in Europe. They always get 15 percent.

Tousi · 10-12-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuifje75

From one of the links posted here...

PAYING THE CHECK & TIPPING | This is almost always done at the table with the waiter or waitress who served you. The foodserver even carries a money pouch to take care of the financial transaction. He or she also receives an automatic 15 percent of the check, included in the price of the meal. This service fee is known as Bedienung. So don’t add on another 10-15 percent! And don’t leave any tip on the table.

This is why you don't tip waiters in Europe. They always get 15 percent.

Hi, K75! Long time, no see! Say, about your last line above; does this include Germany?

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 05:51 AM

Well, I know here in Germany, Switerzland, Austria, Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, Spain, Italy, France, Holland and British culture. "Service charge including" doesn't mean that the employers have to pay % additional service charge to their employees since they paid their employees decent wages. They receive decent wages every month, no matter how many customers visit in their resturants... It's owner's decision either they can afford to keep waiter/waitress or not...

Here in Germany: "Trinkgeld" (little tip) if you want waiter to keep the change then you have to say "Stimmt so" ... The tips are not expected in Germany but it would be great appreciate to them, no matter what... To them, this is only voluntary with no offence, anything like hotels, maids, toilet cleaner, hairdresser, etc...

The service charge & VAT (value added tax) in bills is an obligation to every Europe countries. Depend on difference % service charges accord employer's decision in different resturants but there're 15% service charge at most resturants in France.

In Italy, the % of service charge is not included but additional. (careful, if you are in Italy then please check how much % service charge additional until you agree before go in resturant. The additional service charge is an obligation, not voluntary). They add service charge in the bill. Example: we went Lake Garda, Italy last August 2006. They bill us €2.50 extra per person for use knife/fork/spoon, glass & table, etc as service charge... which mean is we have to pay €10 together for 4 person extra. We check some resturants and realized that there're difference % and charge per person. Depend on their decision.

In England, some employers or employees are skeptical when they receive generous tips from Americans. They feel that Americans "feel sorry for them" or too flashy and show off that they can afford anything... Little tips would be great appreciated to show your kindness. I know Americans doesn't mean to put them down with that generous tips that's just they are humans from different cultures.

I recommend Americans who want to visit Europe to limit their tip - Don't have to tip them or give them little tip (Trinkgeld) to any resturants. In Italy, you don't have to tip extra. In England, limit with tips.

To me, I do not consider "Service Charge" as tip but price of the meal including utilities used, VAT, decent wages for waiter/waitresses... It's waiter/waitresses's job to be friendly to customers, no matter what. If I'm not happy with waiter's behavior then inform the owner or not happy with foods or whatever then inform waiter/waitress then they inform the owner... The owner serve us drink or ice cream gratis as "apology".

Tousi · 10-13-2006, 01:43 PM

But, Leibling, I thought K75 said that a 15% tip is automatically built-into the final food bill in most of Europe?

Reba · 10-13-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

...does this include Germany?

Berlin Life and Travel Tips: Tipping in Berlin - Berlin, Germany
Tipping is quite discretionary, with taxi drivers usually being given a small gratuity which may be no more than rounding up the fare to the nearest Euro - although this is not essential. Restaurants usually include service charges and these are always clearly stated on the menus. If you were particularly pleased with the service it is customary to round up this figure. You should always pay tips in cash, as this way you can be sure that the person it is intended for receives it fully.
Berlin Life, Travel Tips, Tourism, Tipping: Life, Travel Tips in Berlin Area, Germany

It seems that a German "service charge" is like mandatory tipping. They don't call it "tipping" but it serves the same purpose. Even American restaurants add service charges for large groups.

Reba · 10-13-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

... "Service charge including" doesn't mean that the employers have to pay % additional service charge to their employees since they paid their employees decent wages.

So who gets the service charge money? The people performing the service get the money, right?

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In Italy, the % of service charge is not included but additional. (careful, if you are in Italy then please check how much % service charge additional until you agree before go in resturant. The additional service charge is an obligation, not voluntary). They add service charge in the bill. Example: we went Lake Garda, Italy last August 2006. [b]They bill us €2.50 extra per person for use knife/fork/spoon, glass & table, etc as service charge...

They actually charge you to use utensils? Suppose you eat pizza with your fingers--is that a free service?

Thanks for the warning, Leibling.

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talian restaurants always charge an expense called "coperto" or "pane e coperto", which includes the cost for the use of the table, the tablecloth, napkins and cutlery and the cost of the bread. If you feel the service has been really exceptional feel free to leave a tip of up to 5% of the total cost of the meal.

That is so weird to Americans. We consider those expenses to be "overhead" that the restauranteur is responsible for.

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To me, I do not consider "Service Charge" as tip but price of the meal including utilities used, VAT, decent wages for waiter/waitresses...

Then why is it listed seperately as a "service" charge? The other costs aren't listed, are they? Does the bill actually list the utilities and wages costs? "Service" means serving, right?

Reba · 10-13-2006, 02:37 PM

Hubby didn't remember a restaurant service charge when he was in Italy but that was many years ago.

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

So who gets the service charge money? The people performing the service get the money, right?

of course, the employer. It´s them who pay waiter/waitress decent wages, utitlied used, foods, etc. I thought you know because your hubby is self-employer or what?

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They actually charge you to use utensils? Suppose you eat pizza with your fingers--is that a free service?

Thanks for the warning, Leibling.

Of course we can get piece of pizza from pizza store to eat with our fingers... without charge...

We have to pay the charge if we use their table and chair to sit and eat...

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talian restaurants always charge an expense called "coperto" or "pane e coperto", which includes the cost for the use of the table, the tablecloth, napkins and cutlery and the cost of the bread. If you feel the service has been really exceptional feel free to leave a tip of up to 5% of the total cost of the meal.

This is not my post. I don´t know where you get it from. Of course there´re alway have breads/rolls to prepare on the table for customers to feel free but we still pay additional charge service or charge per person for that. 5% tips? I never heard.

Anyway I only tell you what I know because I visit Italy often and know their custom.

We have to pay additional service charge or charge per person - no service charge included

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That is so weird to Americans. We consider those expenses to be "overhead" that the restauranteur is responsible for.

Well, this is Italy custom.

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Then why is it listed seperately as a "service" charge? The other costs aren't listed, are they? Does the bill actually list the utilities and wages costs? "Service" means serving, right?

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It seems that a German "service charge" is like mandatory tipping. They don't call it "tipping" but it serves the same purpose. Even American restaurants add service charges for large groups.

Service charge
service charge definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta

tip
tip (3) definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta

Service charge and tip are not the same thing. Service charge is an obligation to pay which tip not.

Tip is a volunartily - it´s like a gift to thank them for their kindness service...

Every businesses who want to profit themselves ... they have to work out how much they have to pay utilities, foods, decent wages for their employees, VAT, etc. (service charge) to fix the price for a meal because they have to pay and profit themselves.

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Hubby didn't remember a restaurant service charge when he was in Italy but that was many years ago.

I would suggest you & your hubby to visit Italy for vacation to fresh his memory...

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

But, Leibling, I thought K75 said that a 15% tip is automatically built-into the final food bill in most of Europe?

K75 only say what he knows and I only say what I know.

Kuifje75 · 10-13-2006, 04:38 PM

Liebling, many waiters earn very little here in the US, so they really work for their tips. We feel "obliged" to live a good tip for good service.

In Europe, since the service charge is included already, waiters do not have to work for tips, and therefore, people know that they are paid well. They don't have to pay tips.

Even if tipping is supposedly "voluntarily," you are viewed as "cheap" if you don't leave a good tip in the US. They wont want to serve you again in the future.

Kuifje75 · 10-13-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

It seems that a German "service charge" is like mandatory tipping. They don't call it "tipping" but it serves the same purpose. Even American restaurants add service charges for large groups.

Yes, I see it as mandatory tipping. I agree with you, about larger groups, they will include the tip inside the bill and label it as service charge as well.

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuifje75

Liebling, many waiters earn very little here in the US, so they really work for their tips. We feel "obliged" to live a good tip for good service.

In Europe, since the service charge is included already, waiters do not have to work for tips, and therefore, people know that they are paid well. They don't have to pay tips.

Even if tipping is supposedly "voluntarily," you are viewed as "cheap" if you don't leave a good tip in the US. They wont want to serve you again in the future.

Yes I aware it. I learn from this whole thread here... It´s good for us to prepare for visit America.

*curious question*

As you said that the resturants without service charge in America... or without tax? including tax?

How much a meal cost? Example: Steak, french fries & salad in American resturant? Just estimate...

Here in Germany: Steak, french fries & salad between €10 and €15 including service charge.

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 04:56 PM

No, I do not agree that service charge as mandatory tipping because service charge and tipping are not the same thing.

Liebling:-))) · 10-13-2006, 05:00 PM

I found interesting link

Tip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tips in the world...

10-13-2006, 05:12 PM

Let me tell you about me.
I work Casino. I make good pay and I am deaf too. I work in Vault, I do get tips. I make good pay. I make 12.47 an hour and plus I get tips. Can you image it that! Not all resturant are same wages. Its depend what state you live in. We live in Arizona. Here I work casino and they are all different wages.
For example Cocktail waitress make 6.00 an hour and plus tips. That is lots of money. Blackjack dealer make lots of tips. I know I count their tips, cause I work in Vault to count their money. Not all the same. I am deaf too I get pay really well. I have notice Europe is different. My husband from England he told me about it.

10-12-2006, 04:15 PM	#97 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 25,671	tribalseer, I hate to say but I has to... Please don´t blame deafies.. Not just them but hearing as well... Like what Pvt. Parts said that tips is voluntarily. Yes I can understand that that waitresses/waiter expect 15% to 20% tip from customers but you can´t expect them. I would suggest you to read the whole thread from 1st page then you will understand where we come from. Normally employer should pay waitresses/waiters for their work, not rely customers for tips. In Europe, we don´t tip waitress/waiter in any resturants. __________________ sniffing you

10-12-2006, 09:08 PM	#99 (permalink)
Kuifje75 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 431	From one of the links posted here... PAYING THE CHECK & TIPPING \| This is almost always done at the table with the waiter or waitress who served you. The foodserver even carries a money pouch to take care of the financial transaction. He or she also receives an automatic 15 percent of the check, included in the price of the meal. This service fee is known as Bedienung. So don’t add on another 10-15 percent! And don’t leave any tip on the table. This is why you don't tip waiters in Europe. They always get 15 percent. __________________ Megvan a repülőjegyem, az útlevelem, kész vagyok az útazásra.

10-13-2006, 05:51 AM	#101 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 25,671	Well, I know here in Germany, Switerzland, Austria, Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, Spain, Italy, France, Holland and British culture. "Service charge including" doesn't mean that the employers have to pay % additional service charge to their employees since they paid their employees decent wages. They receive decent wages every month, no matter how many customers visit in their resturants... It's owner's decision either they can afford to keep waiter/waitress or not... Here in Germany: "Trinkgeld" (little tip) if you want waiter to keep the change then you have to say "Stimmt so" ... The tips are not expected in Germany but it would be great appreciate to them, no matter what... To them, this is only voluntary with no offence, anything like hotels, maids, toilet cleaner, hairdresser, etc... The service charge & VAT (value added tax) in bills is an obligation to every Europe countries. Depend on difference % service charges accord employer's decision in different resturants but there're 15% service charge at most resturants in France. In Italy, the % of service charge is not included but additional. (careful, if you are in Italy then please check how much % service charge additional until you agree before go in resturant. The additional service charge is an obligation, not voluntary). They add service charge in the bill. Example: we went Lake Garda, Italy last August 2006. They bill us €2.50 extra per person for use knife/fork/spoon, glass & table, etc as service charge... which mean is we have to pay €10 together for 4 person extra. We check some resturants and realized that there're difference % and charge per person. Depend on their decision. In England, some employers or employees are skeptical when they receive generous tips from Americans. They feel that Americans "feel sorry for them" or too flashy and show off that they can afford anything... Little tips would be great appreciated to show your kindness. I know Americans doesn't mean to put them down with that generous tips that's just they are humans from different cultures. I recommend Americans who want to visit Europe to limit their tip - Don't have to tip them or give them little tip (Trinkgeld) to any resturants. In Italy, you don't have to tip extra. In England, limit with tips. To me, I do not consider "Service Charge" as tip but price of the meal including utilities used, VAT, decent wages for waiter/waitresses... It's waiter/waitresses's job to be friendly to customers, no matter what. If I'm not happy with waiter's behavior then inform the owner or not happy with foods or whatever then inform waiter/waitress then they inform the owner... The owner serve us drink or ice cream gratis as "apology". __________________ sniffing you

10-13-2006, 04:38 PM	#109 (permalink)
Kuifje75 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 431	Liebling, many waiters earn very little here in the US, so they really work for their tips. We feel "obliged" to live a good tip for good service. In Europe, since the service charge is included already, waiters do not have to work for tips, and therefore, people know that they are paid well. They don't have to pay tips. Even if tipping is supposedly "voluntarily," you are viewed as "cheap" if you don't leave a good tip in the US. They wont want to serve you again in the future. __________________ Megvan a repülőjegyem, az útlevelem, kész vagyok az útazásra.

10-13-2006, 04:56 PM	#112 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 25,671	No, I do not agree that service charge as mandatory tipping because service charge and tipping are not the same thing. __________________ sniffing you

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08-12-2005, 04:26 AM	#92 (permalink)
DeafBiker4JC Flamin' Redhead~ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 130	Im upset with some deaf people because they order $10 worth of food then they just use spare change to tip the waitress and I tell them its not proper and they say well i need my money for other things so i tell them why did they even bother going out in the first place if they cant afford the tip? Its like they're taking advantage of the waitress. Just my 2 pennies.

10-12-2006, 12:02 PM	#96 (permalink)
tribalseer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1	I hate to break it to you, but I used to work at a restaurant on Capitol Hill in DC, near Union Station... we got lots of Gallaudet students, and 9 times out of 10 we would either get stiffed or get something like a $2 tip on a $58 tab. It was horrible. It was to the extent that all the waiters and waitresses would do whatever they could to get out of waiting on a table of deaf students. I finally got fed up with it. One night we had a table of six deaf girls come in and sit on the patio (a very lucrative spot). They were assigned to a new waitress who was a little inexperienced and nervous. After thet'd finished their food and were waiting for their check, Sue asked me if she should add 15% to their check (which was an option for parties 6 and larger). I looked to see what table she was talking about and said "YES. Absolutely." A few minutes later, she came and found me, with one of the deaf girls trailing behind and obviously flustered. She said, "They said they can't afford to pay the check with the tip added." I was furious, but I tried to contain myself. "Tell them to pay whatever they can afford," I said. But then I went to the servers' station and wrote a note and took it to their table. The note said "If you can't afford to treat the people who serve you with a little respect, then you shouldn't go out to eat." Of course they took it to the manager, and a few days later I was fired (reluctantly, I should add -- the manager said I had been a great waiter and had every right to be mad and he'd give me a recommendation anywhere, but I had violated policy nonetheless). I was out of line, but I was absolutely fed up with the treatment we received almost ALL the time from our deaf customers. Believe me, I am about the last person to ever stereotype a group of people. I am about as liberal as they come, and I don't dislike deaf people in general. And granted that this was almost 14 years ago, so things might possibly have changed. But this is one stereotype that, in my experience, was absolutely true. I didn't experience this on a widespread basis from blind people, or black people, or any other group except for the hearing-impaired. If deaf people expect to treated like everyone else (a fair expectation), then they should also accept the same responsibilities as everyone else. Scott

10-12-2006, 06:24 PM	#98 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,540	Nope, Leibling; Scott is right. That was his experience and mine also , even though I am deaf.

10-13-2006, 01:43 PM	#102 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,540	But, Leibling, I thought K75 said that a 15% tip is automatically built-into the final food bill in most of Europe?

10-13-2006, 02:37 PM	#105 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 16,396	Hubby didn't remember a restaurant service charge when he was in Italy but that was many years ago.

10-13-2006, 05:00 PM	#113 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 25,671	I found interesting link Tip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Tips in the world... __________________ sniffing you

10-13-2006, 05:12 PM	#114 (permalink)
Star Guest Posts: n/a	Let me tell you about me. I work Casino. I make good pay and I am deaf too. I work in Vault, I do get tips. I make good pay. I make 12.47 an hour and plus I get tips. Can you image it that! Not all resturant are same wages. Its depend what state you live in. We live in Arizona. Here I work casino and they are all different wages. For example Cocktail waitress make 6.00 an hour and plus tips. That is lots of money. Blackjack dealer make lots of tips. I know I count their tips, cause I work in Vault to count their money. Not all the same. I am deaf too I get pay really well. I have notice Europe is different. My husband from England he told me about it.