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diehardbiker- are you serious its $2.90? i find this funny...

i used to work in enviroment where i collect tips... i earn the federal min wage.. and its $5.15 that time(1998). and recieve tips... its same as the writress.. myself was a delivery guy earning federal minumum wage. however combined with tips its an average of $15 an hour. anyhow i believe that's the same with writress.. and i find it odd that they earn $2.90.. because federal law requires u enter taxes which the minumum wage above the federal income..

and a friend of mine who works as a writress at perkins he earns little above the federal minumum wage.. he earns $6.50 a hour.. plus tips.. giving him combined of $12 a hour. (he works part time druing lunch hours)

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Liebling:-)))

Better ask Pvt. Parts because he/she knows alot since he/she was former manager of the resturant.

Yeah I am very amazing about waitress's very low wage. I would say to $2.90 a hour because waitress's job are work hard... which it's not cheap.

I think $2.90 could be true because Pvt. Parts must have read diehardbiker's previous post before Pvt. Parts responsed my post but the other forums said the same things what diehardbiker said.

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Liebling:-)))

Oh dear, it must be hassle for you and your hubby. I know it's wrong of the man took someone's tip money which it's not belong to him. He must have known that tip to waitress are a voluntarily.

The tipping system to resturants are not known to Europe that's why we have no problem.

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Liebling:-)))

I forget to add my earlier post.

No, it's not just Germany but Norway, England, and other Europe countries and also Australia, Sinpagore, too.

See what Liza said in her earlier post about tipping system.

Normally the owner cover the services for waitresses, not customer... It's good for the owner to be richer because the customers paid the tip to waitress for the owner. No offense.

As what you said $6.50 is still too low, DeafSCUBA98

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I pull one year old thread out and check in other forum few minutes ago. Yes, Most said that waitress's earn between $2.25 and $2.50 a hour.

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oakbluffs

It raises another question: do you know of a deaf person working in a restaurant as a waiter? I've never seen a deaf waitstaffer

Liebling:-)))

Yes, we only know that we have a one deaf waiter in Nürnberg, Germany because my friend is married him. I only saw my friend twice a year at Deaf Club


I didn't know either we have more deafies around Germany or not All what we know is one deaf in Nürnberg.

Yes, Deafies work as waitress/waiter for any deaf clubs

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Reba

If someone can afford to eat at a sit-down restaurant, he/she can afford to pay good tips. If someone can't afford to pay tips, then he/she should not eat at that restaurant. It is not right to deny tips to the servers. They did their work and should be rewarded. Being a cheap customer is no excuse. In America, the tip is part of the normal cost of dining out. If we don't want to pay tips we get "take-out" food.

Also, there is nothing wrong with restaurant owners making a profit. That is the reason they are in business. Owning and managing a restaurant is not a hobby just for fun.

Cookie Monster

Never say never..

There was a deaf wait staff and she had to endure such unbelievable orders from the Deaf customers. It wasn't the food orders, mind you! If the particular Deaf customers arrived at the restaurant, they'd motion to their ears and wave their hands in the air to motion they were Deaf, this meant they wanted the Deaf waitress. Lordy, the manager and supervisor had to deal with those Deaf customers to explain that each waitress was assigned to each table areas when he/she starts a shift.

To see such a scene myself, I wanted to hide myself because if one of the Deaf customers wanted a refill, all they had to do was wave their arms in public. What a way to attract attention! Even a few people from the table tried to pull the sorry old excuse saying "Hey we're the same kind, Deafies, gimme a discount on my meals, eh?"

The next time the very same group came, the Deaf waitress made sure she had the most difficult and "hard to get along with" wait staff serve them!

A wonderful comeuppance!

Cheri

I was a waitress at my dad's resturant years ago, There are some hearings who are bad tippers too not just only deaf people. I guess it depends on the person. And Diehardmaker, I disagree with you, because I used to be a waitress and I was making 4.00 an hour not 2.90 an hour. Where did a waitress made 2.90 an hour at?

But bear in mind, It's not the waitress or waiter's fault that the food are bad, because they didn't make it, the cooks in the kitchen did. But on the other hand, we should be paying tips based on how the quality of the service are from the waitress or waiter.

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Soonersseth

I agree I used to tip based on meal cost and taste but the server does the same work if you order a $7.00 sandwich or a $15.00 steak and not their fault if the cook did a shit job so I try to tip based only on how good they are with bringing my order, getting re fills, asking if I need any thing ect.

Liebling:-)))

I never say that it´s waitress or waiter´s fault that the foods are bad. I know they are not cooker.

I only said that the waitresses´s job task to ask the customers either the taste of meals is good or not. The waitress/waiter are obligate to inform the owner about bad foods where the customer report with complaint. The owner or Manager come to check the food and give the customer coupon for next gratis meal or bottle of wine.

What could you do if you find the food bad? Get waitress to inform the owner or what? Woudl you still pay if the food are bad?

Germans demand good food because they pay it.

It´s waitress´s job task to ask you either the food is good nor not because the owner want to know either the cooker is good cooking or not.

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Liebling:-)))

I would not pay the cost if the food are bad.

I only pay good food and drink.

Did you complaint the owner about bad food or what?

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Cheri

Oh Liebling, I know you never said that, I was only pointing out about foods that being brought to tables are not the waitress fault, I only copied your quote to remind all that if the food you ordered didn't turn out the way you wanted it, I wouldn't lower her/his earning tips.


If I ordered something, and the food is cold, or burnt. I would tell my waiter/waitress about it. Normally they take care of the problem, and return me a fresh plate.

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Reba

My dad used to tip for good service, and an extra $50 if the cute waitress gave him her name and phone number (yeah, he was bad). That was back in the 70's and 80's.

Dad was a picky customer. He refused to use salad bars. He expected the waiter/waitress to make his salad and bring it to him (and they did it!). If something wasn't right, he sent it back. He was a pain in the neck in a restaurant.

BUT...if the waiter/waitress pleased him, he tipped VERY well. He would also request that server by name the next time he ate there. He was picky and a pain, but also generous.

He loved to eat in full-service restaurants. When I was a kid growing up with him, we never, never ate at a "fast food" place, even when we drove across country (Route 66). We only ate in full-service restaurants, even as little kids. No burgers, hot dogs or french fries allowed. Mostly steak, lobster, and baked potatoes.

I guess that is why I am used to tipping.

Liebling:-)))

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Reba

No one is forcing the waitresses to work at that restaurant. Most of my server friends brag about their big tips. Most servers don't take wait jobs as life-time careers, so they really don't need long-term contracts or retirement plans.

Why shouldn't owners make profits? Restaurant owners take a risk in opening a business, they hire many workers, and they work hard. They deserve their profits.

Pvt. Parts

Yes. That was one of the most heart-wrenching things I've ever experienced in my life.

It is difficult to explain because there is a lot of math involved with the following factors:
- The cost of purchasing the food
- The price at which the food sells
- Speed at which customers come in & leave the restaurant
- Wages
- Taxes

We biggest difference between the U.S. and Germany is the tax structure.

Our tax system in the U.S. is set up so that both the owner and the employees can maximize their personal income based on making good choices and working hard. If you make bad choices and loaf around on the job, you LOSE money, whether you're the owner or a server.

How?

Servers' tips often do not have to be declared for taxation purposes (even if they declare, the tax rate on tips is lower than the rate for wages), whereas wages are ALWAYS declared and taxes levied on both the restaurant's owner and the server.

So, if you provide good service, are efficient with your time, you are able to bring in more customers and sell more food for the owner (more $$ for owner). You also get tipped better (more $$ for server).

Everybody wins!

Many sales jobs in our country have tax structures like this and the dividends are terrific.

Liebling:-)))

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Pvt. Parts

I wanted to address this briefly.

It may not be the server's fault but it is the server's responsibility to rectify the situation and prevent it from happening again.