That old hearing saying rings true doesn't it? 'who pays the piper, picks the sign" cough Or something like that. So here we are. si5s. ive been waiting at a distance for it to be fully worked out an dtweaked. i wish i hadnt. here i am now. A complete writing system for ASL designed by native signer. it has according to the web site been now incorporate into the ASL program at Gally. which is some very good huge news as well as other deaf schools. Holy smokes!!! Finally. I need to rub my eyes. Can this really be? pinch me baby! I'm excited about this i am. Nothing was such, and is such the grinding pain in chops as not being able to fully write and truly write ASL in ASL. sure we have vid but thats very recent and very fickle. we need something long term here not a cheap vid file to cyber oblivion. something we can use. an information storage device which is of course what writing is. it will give us far far far better control over our cultural memory, and cultures future. My thoughts as i have them in ASL written in ASL for others to read and sign in ASL. this negates the need for a transition to english then back to ASL. how about that!!! Eventually this, if it picks up and i'm gonna do my part. This is a a very serious answer to the hearing worlds dream of a world without us Deaf. As people and as a culture. If we truly accept this as a system for ASL the hearing world wont be able to have the hearing fantasy fulfilled as fully as it wishes. Who pays the piper picks the sign Deaf culture has been at the mercy of the hearing world for ever. Gov. policy, Deaf schools, main stream, ect ect. By having a true writing system for the language it frees the language from institutions. Institutions which are gov run or gov funded. Thus we have the paymester the gov picking which sign or no sign or how sign is used in schools ect ect. with this. A full writing system for ASL It ends that in my eyes long term. Literacy can be addressed now in ASL fully. The development of a true writing system for any sign language has been a great need. and has been done and attempted with various rates of success. signwriting is an example, which i found to be too bulky and hard to work with. (ill get into my thoughts on it if asked) this may be the alternative. si5s - Home I want to discuss seriously your thoughts and the very huge ramifications of this. Given what we face and its frankly looking grim. This at least gives us a shot in the long term survival of Deaf culture. Its a positive, I cannot find a negative thing so far about this. im curious why this sytem ha sbeen choosen as opposed to sign write to integrate at gally.