Tim become Kim at the age of 14!!

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    FOXNews.com - 12-Year-Old Boy Becomes 14-Year-Old Girl, World's Youngest Sex Change Patient - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

    A 12-year-old German boy who insisted he was a girl trapped in a boy's body convinced his parents that something had to be done, so they agreed to allow him to receive a series of hormone injections, making him the youngest sex-change patient in the world, according to published reports Monday.

    Now 14, the boy, who went by the name Tim, has now become Kim – a blue-eyed blonde with a growing bust line who is allowed to wear make-up at weekends.

    Kim has no boyfriends at present but her parents say she is interested in what, now, is the opposite sex.

    Her treatment, which has cost more than $40,000, is being funded by German taxpayers.

    Psychiatrists treating her say she was an ‘exceptional case – a person clearly in the wrong body’, even though the decision to grant her wishes when she was so young is still the subject of intense debate.

    Her identity and medical insurance cards have been changed to her new name and sex.

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    Girl of 14 who was a boy until she was 12
    By ALLAN HALL

    Last updated at 16:29pm on 29th January 2007

    Even at the age of two, Tim insisted he was a girl trapped in a boy’s body.

    And when puberty began to approach at the age of 12, he convinced his parents that something had to be done.

    With their agreement, he became the youngest sex-change patient in the world, receiving hormone injections which arrested his male development.

    Now, at 14, Tim has become Kim – a blue-eyed blonde with a growing bust line who is allowed to wear make-up at weekends.

    She has no boyfriends at present but her parents say she is interested in what, now, is the opposite sex.

    Her treatment, which has cost £18,000 so far, is being funded by the German taxpayer.

    Psychiatrists treating her say she was an ‘exceptional case – a person clearly in the wrong body’, even though the decision to grant her wishes when she was so young is still the subject of intense debate.

    Her identity and medical insurance cards have been changed to her new name and sex.

    But she has not been placed at a different school in case of taunting from children who knew her as him in days gone by because, according to her parents, ‘her friends fully accept her as she is’.

    She dresses in trendy clothes and told Germany’s Stern magazine that she ‘dreams of moving to Paris to become a fashion designer’.

    The family’s full identity has not been made public. But Kim’s father, known as Lutz P, told Stern that as a child, Tim liked to play with Barbie dolls, enjoyed wearing dresses and, from the age of two, insisted that he was a girl.

    ‘We saw Kim as a girl, but not as a problem. Our life was surprisingly normal.’

    Kim reacted badly to the first signs of puberty, he said.

    ‘At that stage we realised that she was terrified of growing facial hair and her voice breaking.’

    Kim’s parents consulted psychiatrists across Germany.

    Some condemned their support of their child’s desire to undergo a sex change, or suggested that she be kept under observation in a closed psychiatric ward.

    But others agreed that the child should receive therapy, because growing up to be a man would have damaged her personality.

    Dr Bern Meyenburg, the head of a clinic for children and adolescents with identity disturbances at Frankfurt University, concluded that the child was serious.

    He wrote in his diagnosis: ‘Kim is a mentally well-developed child who appears happy and balanced.

    ‘There is no doubt of the determined wish, which was already detectable since early childhood. It would have been very wrong to let Kim grow up to be a man.

    ‘It is rare to have such a clear-cut case.’

    The sex change will not become complete for another four years because while German law does not forbid hormone treatment for minors, they must be 18 before gender-transforming surgery can be carried out.

    Dr Achim Wuesthof, who is treating Kim at a clinic in Hamburg, said: ‘To the best of my knowledge, Kim is the youngest sex-change patient in the world.

    ‘Imagine a man who suddenly starts growing breasts or a woman who starts growing a beard against their will – that is how Kim and people like her experience puberty.’

    The UK’s youngest sex-change patient was Oliver Wheadon, from Wigton, Cumbria. He was 17 when he was granted the operation on the NHS four years ago and is now known as Angel Paris- Jordan.


    Girl of 14 who was a boy until she was 12 | the Daily Mail
     
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    wow, Kim is very lucky to have open mind and understanding parents who fulfill Kim's wish. I'm really happy for Kim who desire to become who really she is. Its good to know that everyone, she knows before she was he, accept what she is.

    The same example what I fulfill my 2nd son's wish for correct his ears with surgery. He asked for our support last month. Sure, we are happy to fulfill his wish.
     
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    Wow, cool. Thats great that he have such open-minded parents that they willing to let him to change to become a girl. I hope he made the right decision cos when he gets older, maybe feel fool or what. All the best for girl to feel girly stuff to come.
     
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    at the age of 12 years old?....:eek:
     
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    :eek3: ~ 12 yrs old.. whoa.. This child is very open mind and willing open heart to their parent's open and understanding... Approve their child have undergo surgery change sex.

    Amazing!

    But.... as my children.. "Big No" Too Scary out there if happened when grow up oh oppiSe, I got grow hairy on the chest.. Mommy, Change my mind, go back sex again.. because got grow hairy chest.. That mean I'm not trapped girl inside me anymore. I got hormones.

    Careful..

    I've seen the cases and seen on T.V. under TLC
     
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    I don't think that this girl is going to change her mind and go back to her orgingal sex. She's lucky to have parents so open minded.
     
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    I don't think an ear nip and tuck is on the same psychological, emotional, physiological, and sociological level as a sex change, not to mention the financial and legal aspects of the change.
     
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    I hope this child doesn't change her (his?) mind in 10 or 20 years.
     
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    If the child hasn't yet had the surgery, why did they issue new ID and insurance cards with the new sex? "Kim's" body hasn't been fully "changed" yet so the sex on the body and the sex on the cards don't yet match. Is that legal? Also, I didn't read in the story anything about the child's chromosomes. Does the child have male or female chromosomes?
     
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    I know what a hermaphrodite is but I don't think that is what this child is. From what I read, this child was born anatomically a male (which would include male chromosomes), but felt psychologically like a female. (Unless there is more to this story that I haven't yet seen.) That's why I'm asking the question about the chromosomes. The posted story didn't mention it, so I'm trying to get more facts about the situation.
     
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    I'm proud of Kim..
    I support her and Transexual/transgender Rights..
    Everyone should become true themself..If not then they wont be happy for rest of their life!
    :wiggle:
     
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    I know..it is so risky at that age cuz they are not usually pychologically nor emotionally mature for such a life-changing event. If my daughter wanted to be a man at the age of 14, I would tell her to wait until she is 18 but I would be worried that she will have emotional damage from being forced to stay a woman for much longer. It can become very sticky.
     
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    Yeah I was just thinking the same as you were.....Goodness she's so young to make this kind of decision....I just hope it was the right one...

    If my child wanted a tattoo at the age of 12, it would be a big NO NO!! I really don't care if people call me a closed minder, I rather them to wait until they're older....wellll I hope it's a good tattoo not bloody or scary ones... :ugh3: but for :ahem: sexually change, heck NO!
     
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    No, Kim won't have it because she have female hormone in her body.
     
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    Good point!

    I read as much the same as you, I cannot understand why!
     
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    For me he/she is too young to have this operation.

    If he/she is my child, I won't support the operation until 18th Birthday, otherwise I would feel responsible if she/he changed mind afterward!

    What if he realised being woman is not what he is looking for, and want to reverse as a male again?

    I remember a French man received an artificial hand from donor, as he lost his through accident, and he wasn't happy with it, and want it to be removed again through surgery, as he thought having two hands would make his life easier but it don't work for him, the doctors wasn't impressed with him!!
     
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    Yes, that's right...

    babies/toddlers who plays with dolls/cars or dress as lady or man are normal but soon before they hit puberty is not okay. The teenagers who have puberty will be unhappy to being himself/herself to end to damage their good personality because they don't know who they really are.

    Yes, Kim's very lucky to have the parents like this who focus to help her until there're 100% absolutely with no doubt. I would prefer Kim enjoy herself in experience of puberty time than deny her wish and then end unhappy and suffer.

    I know a boy at school, we grow up together at school. He like to dress woman clothes and play the doll when he was a little boy in doll house with us. During puberity time, he was being bullied by boys because of this. It ends him crying and unhappy.... His movement like girl... He was unpopular at school...
    Many years later, my hubby & I visited at my school at 175th anniversary festival in 1992. We met him there... He become "She"... She look so beautiful and happy. Of course he wear make up and dress like woman but not transexual yet. Everyone talked to "her" and realized how cruel they was to "her" in the past... and accept what I don't know what happened with him now because I haven't see her since 1992. Good thing is that he didn't kill himself at puberty time...
     
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    Oh yes... they are the same because ear belongs part of body.

    If I deny to fulfil his wish to have ear surgery until he is 18 years old then he will suffer physcial emotional in puberty/teenage time. No way, I prefer to let him to have ear surgery soon before he hit puberty...


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    Interesting link.
    Does having a Y chromosome make someone a man? | Intersex Society of North America

    Google-Ergebnis für http://geneticsassociates.com/images/toddler.jpg

    Yes I know the article didn't write much either ambiguous genitalia, intersex, hermaphrodite, etc. he suffer but it written in article that Kim's parents check with Psychiatrists. I beleive they made tests including cytogenetic test until 100% absolutely before he become she. If the parents suspect something not okay with toddlers and children then have doctors to make cytogenetic test on toddlers and children.
    Example David Reimer:
    CBC News Indepth: David Reimer

    What the doctor did to David is not right. First doctor did accidently to burn David's skin under circumcison surgery. It's impossible to correct his penis so he suggest David's parents to change David into girl without test his genetic either he have male hormone or not. He was She until puberty time, she feel in her body that she is man... She suffer during puberty time... pretty unhappy.... end to damage her good self-esteem... but what Kim did is not same thing as David... The tests was done by doctors on Tim before he become Kim... Without tests, is an illegal... I thought you aware that every makes tests.
     

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