The Last Stand for the Deaf in California

A lot of times, data doesn't explain the real-life reasons why things happen....
 
Banjo said:
*nodding*

I have seen enough to know it's true. Basically, they treat these schools as if they are the dumping grounds for the students with problems.
Click to expand...
I've seen that too at both VSDB in Staunton and MSSD as well.

In Virgina, it'd be the Hampton school for the Deaf that'd be the dumping ground. It was the Black school for the Deaf some 40 odd years ago, hence why we have two VSDBs in Virgina. It's nicknamed Hampton for the Deaf because it's in Hampton. Now it's the place for deaf students with multiple problems and disabilities.
 
With CSD schools' scores continually in the tank and budget woes of California, does it not make them vulnerable?
 
Rather than argue about the cause.....why not agree there are many problems and start talking solutions?????
 
I made the choice to attend a school for the deaf. My parents asked me if I wanted to attend a school for the deaf and I said yes.

Despite the problems they had at the school, I don't regret my decision one bit. People are being puerile by being thankful for something they never experienced.
 
Banjo said:
I made the choice to attend a school for the deaf. My parents asked me if I wanted to attend a school for the deaf and I said yes.

Despite the problems they had at the school, I don't regret my decision one bit. People are being puerile by being thankful for something they never experienced.
Click to expand...

I think most would feel the same way.
 
kokonut said:
With CSD schools' scores continually in the tank and budget woes of California, does it not make them vulnerable?
Click to expand...

I hang out with Deaf people that graduated from Fremont on a regular basis across the country and I can say this with confidence - They're not vulnerable.
 
TXgolfer said:
Rather than argue about the cause.....why not agree there are many problems and start talking solutions?????
Click to expand...

There's one solution... get the parents to work on the language development within the first five years before they are enrolled into a program.

However, only the parents can make that decision. If they fail to, then the taxpayers are forced to pay to fix the "problem" that may never be fixed.

By the time a child is 8, if the child has little or no confidence in reading... the child is more than likely to be doomed for the rest of its life.
 
deafskeptic said:
I've seen that too at both VSDB in Staunton and MSSD as well.

In Virgina, it'd be the Hampton school for the Deaf that'd be the dumping ground. It was the Black school for the Deaf some 40 odd years ago, hence why we have two VSDBs in Virgina. It's nicknamed Hampton for the Deaf because it's in Hampton. Now it's the place for deaf students with multiple problems and disabilities.
Click to expand...

So maybe that's why so many folks think the end-products from manstream schools are superior? Something's gotta give somewhere....
 
Tousi said:
So maybe that's why so many folks think the end-products from manstream schools are superior? Something's gotta give somewhere....
Click to expand...

But in the mainstream theres a ton of issues as well. A friend of mine had to teach a high school senior what the word "Improve" meant last spring. :shock:
 
Banjo said:
There's one solution... get the parents to work on the language development within the first five years before they are enrolled into a program.

However, only the parents can make that decision. If they fail to, then the taxpayers are forced to pay to fix the "problem" that may never be fixed.

By the time a child is 8, if the child has little or no confidence in reading... the child is more than likely to be doomed for the rest of its life.
Click to expand...

Nice but in reality, if the school is a dumping ground, then their students will come with a range of issues like bad family dynamics, are less educable, ad nauseam.....
 
I made this video a while ago... May as well share it because I share the same thing in this thread.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z97eKlEHbyE]YouTube - Deaf Think Tank Team Introduction[/ame]
 
posts from hell said:
I hang out with Deaf people that graduated from Fremont on a regular basis across the country and I can say this with confidence - They're not vulnerable.
Click to expand...

Not the students but the factors today that make the schools vulnerable to cuts and such.
 
posts from hell said:
But in the mainstream theres a ton of issues as well. A friend of mine had to teach a high school senior what the word "Improve" meant last spring. :shock:
Click to expand...

I know but something has to give somewhere to make the wider picture fit...dumping ground schools and their Star scores, etc etc.....complicated
 
Wirelessly posted

Banjo said:
posts from hell said:
Its quite apparent that you haven't spent a semester or so at a deaf school.

The bad seeds I am speaking of is these "trouble kids", these with multiple disabilities, or severely mentally challenged.
Click to expand...

*nodding*

I have seen enough to know it's true. Basically, they treat these schools as if they are the dumping grounds for the students with problems.
Click to expand...

it is true that deaf schools have kids with other disabilities, but that is not the majority of students in california. Plus, those kid's don't test (they are exempted) so they aren't pulling the averages down.
 
faire_jour said:
Wirelessly posted

it is true that deaf schools have kids with other disabilities, but that is not the majority of students in california. Plus, those kid's don't test (they are exempted) so they aren't pulling the averages down.
Click to expand...

Who are you referring to? The students who are mentally challenged?
 
posts from hell said:
But in the mainstream theres a ton of issues as well. A friend of mine had to teach a high school senior what the word "Improve" meant last spring. :shock:
Click to expand...

I remember having to explain the meaning of lurid in my graphic design class. I did a tabloid that was a parody of the Weekly World News. It was called The Lurid News Weekly.
 
Back
Top