Something to think about

[christlovedeaf]

Correct, the word homosexual isn't mentioned in the Bible, but it is the same meaning, if a man sleep (sexual relationship) with another man like sleep with a woman, also, on the other passage said, that man gave up their passion toward women then have passion with another man. It is the same meaning homosexual, bec homosexual mean sex relationship with same sex. Even tho, Teresh, even most of the judiasm doesn't approve homosexual and believe u must married opposite sex and not outside of it. But at the same time which christians therefore should not "cast stone" against them. There are some christians are struggling and been changing step by step become more like Christ. Even in Deutoronomy I think that is where, said that God will show them the way little by little, that is growing process. As of christians, many think, mean repent mean don't make a mistake right then, but I learned it doesn't teach that way in the Bible, the word repenting is by thought pattern. Many many times in the Bible said about the mind, I love the way Joyce Meyer put it this way, your whole life changing start with a mind, like book of Proverbs," whatever he thinks, so does he." Romans 12, says about renewing ur mind and etc with others. Many follow the human theories which contrary what God taught. I have seen and heard testimonies about how God uses really works than psychiastric. True, God gave each of us a choice. My responsiblity is I must examine myself and lt God shows me in many ways what I need to adjust or put to death of the things that is not of God. I learned many ways and keep giving myself to God everyday, then He will reveal what He need me to do. Lately I have seen how God showing me many ways. Smile

 

[Heath]

There's no reference to it in Genesis 19. Apparently you're not reading it as closely as you seem to think you are because there's no reference to homosexuality in the entire book, chapter 19 included.

You're inserting passages that don't exist into the text in order to justify your viewpoint rather than using the viewpoint of the text itself. Funny, but typical for a person who does not understand it.

I am not inserting nothing here and you have just lied twice, Teresh Please pay attention to the beginning of Genesis Chapter 19 and also the whole book of Genesis. God said it right there. God wrote the KJV Holy Bible Himself through holy men living a clean life and obedient to the Spirit of God. Here is the weblink to Genesis Chapter 19

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis 19;&version=9;

God said a lot of things in other books of fiction too, that doesn't make them canonical.

The only Holy Bible that is the Inspired Word of God is the KJV Holy Bible.

No, you have to be a Christian to see that. Alas, you're not smart enough to realise such an obvious fact.

Oh Teresh, so you are telling me that even for a non-believer to not be able to see and understand the 6th or the 8th commandment of the Ten Commandments and I really have to question if you really are that actually interested and that commited enough to judaism and I have to question whom do you serve ? God or satan. You are downright hostile towards Christians and you profess judaism yet, Teresh I am merely pointing these things out because I have begun to study the Old Testament much closer to get a better understanding of the Hebrew Old Testament which is something I did not except to be studying in much more greater detail then next I will study the New Testament of the KJV Holy Bible.

 

[netrox]

Heath, what revelance does this have to do with me if I don't believe in your religion? Why should you impose your religious values on others who disagree with you?

 

[Heath]

Heath, what revelance does this have to do with me if I don't believe in your religion? Why should you impose your religious values on others who disagree with you?

I am not imposing anything on anybody. This is a back and forth debate.

 

[pek1]

Oh Teresh, so you are telling me that even for a non-believer to not be able to see and understand the 6th or the 8th commandment of the Ten Commandments and I really have to question if you really are that actually interested and that commited enough to judaism and I have to question whom do you serve ? God or satan. You are downright hostile towards Christians and you profess judaism yet, Teresh I am merely pointing these things out because I have begun to study the Old Testament much closer to get a better understanding of the Hebrew Old Testament which is something I did not except to be studying in much more greater detail then next I will study the New Testament of the KJV Holy Bible.

as always, Heath! I agree!

 

[netrox]

I am not imposing anything on anybody. This is a back and forth debate.

Ha! Yeah, right!

 

[Foxrac]

I know that JohnnyE is under Heath's account though.

Heath, listen me. I'm not Christian, Jewish, Muslim and other religion, also I'm claim no religion then accept it and I'm agnostic too then accept it again. I don't want hear about shit thing from you and do not encourage me to what doing. There's no word for "Homosexual" in Bible book and quit to bashing on homosexual or you are going more worse in AD. Do not discuss with me about religion related.

 

[Foxrac]

Sorry... I know you are aka JohnnyE.. You bash on gay and lesbians.... You are not TRUE christian... YOU ARE FAKE
SxyPorkie

Wow, that's my truth.

 

[sillycat]

More bashing on Heath AKA JohnnyE!!

More bashing on homosexuals!!

Ok, Im bored...zzzzz

Time to call in the mods if this continues....

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Look, Alex or Mod.(s) would of ban Heath & JohnnyE on the same time if they found out that Heath use JohnnyE as 2nd username without Alex´s permission accord Alex´s forum rule. Why ban only JohnnyE, not Heath?

 

[deafdyke]

that man gave up their passion toward women then have passion with another man.

Incorrect! That wasn't about loving relationships between two consenting people......that was more about ritual sex worship....like not sex as a sacred act, but more sex as a profane act.......

 

[Roadrunner]

Look, Alex or Mod.(s) would of ban Heath & JohnnyE on the same time if they found out that Heath use JohnnyE as 2nd username without Alex´s permission accord Alex´s forum rule. Why ban only JohnnyE, not Heath?

Please let the administration and moderators deal with this.



Thank you!!



~RR

 

[Maria]

Really? Then how come His posistion on things like foods you can eat and clothes you can wear has changed?
YOUR God's posistion on homoseuxality may not have changed, but you know what? People disagree on ALL sorts of points of thelogy. This is just one of them....It's just totally clear that due to this, man cannot accuratly understand God. Everyone Christian agrees that killing people is a sin. However, MY God's posistion is not the same as yours. YOU might think that God doesn't agree with homosexuality, but that doesn't mean that He in fact DOES!!!!!! It's like the way some people think that dancing is a sin....but not everyone agrees that it IS a sin!

God is NEVER changed nor will He ever change since the day one He created this earth. He will always be the same as He was and is. Now, you mentioned about the foods people eat and clothes people wear ... God don't count the foods or clothes that people eat or wear. What God counts is inside the people's heart... that means their behaviour, and how they say such things that could harm to people's feelin'. God will judge people's behavior/mouth. It's how the people treat others and how it affect them spiritually.

 

[Heath]

God did set forth what you can eat or you can not eat in the Old Testament and God is a unchangeable God.

 

[rockdrummer]

No I was not kicked out of boot camp. The heat wave is way too hot to continue and in the interest and safety of people in boot camp it has been postponed until it cools down then will continue with boot camp. I am still in Texas. It is way too hot !!!!!

Who is JohnnyE

Hi Y, The KJV Holy Bible it is the authorized verison. There has been many attempts to destroy the KJV Holy Bible throughout history and God protects His Word. This tract will explain what happened.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0031/0031_01.asp

Boot Camp???? Which branch of the service are you talking about that would shut down boot camp because of the heat?? Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines. Which one... or is it maybe the Coast Guard that you have joined? Just curious.

 

[Heath]

Boot Camp???? Which branch of the service are you talking about that would shut down boot camp because of the heat?? Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines. Which one... or is it maybe the Coast Guard that you have joined? Just curious.

None of these and it is just boot camp and yes the US Armed Forces do shut down boot camp if it gets too hot or unsafe to work out. They have a flag code which shows if the weather is going to be good or not.

 

[Momoftwo]

Homosexuality is a SIN

Heath-

You are SO RIGHT on everything what you said about homosexuality.

I was reading the bible people what they explained about homosexual. What does the bible say? It's www.bible.com.

Here is.....

These scriptures clearly state that these vile affections of men lusting for other men (gay men) or women lusting for other women (lesbians) are not the natural affections God created men and women to have for one another. Let me say here that God loves all homosexuals! However, He hates the deeds of homosexuality because they are sinful. God did not create any human being as a homosexual. They are not born that way, just as murderers are not born that way. However, these spirits can be transmitted to children, especially if someone who had this demonic spirit seduced or raped a child--or even if they were close to gay people. These demons can also be imparted to others through unholy sexual acts.

People become homosexuals because they yield to abnormal acts or lust. It is through some source that they have received a demonic spirit that drives them to their lust. Viewing evil videos or pornographic books is a way of opening the door for Satan to give one an evil, perverse spirit. Though people are not born as homosexuals, the Bible does say all human beings are born with a sin nature. If we yield to the evils of our flesh it will lead to our destruction not only in this life, but in the life to come. However, through faith in Jesus Christ and His death on the cross we can break the hold that sin has upon us. We do not have to yield to the old fleshy nature but we can now overcome evil temptations and live our lives controlled by the Holy Spirit.

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Heath, stand up very strong for God!!! Great job!!

 

[rockdrummer]

None of these and it is just boot camp and yes the US Armed Forces do shut down boot camp if it gets too hot or unsafe to work out. They have a flag code which shows if the weather is going to be good or not.

You didn't say which one you were in. I'm sorry but as an ex-military person I have to dis-agree about armed services shutting down boot camp. When I was in we truged on no matter what. You know why? Because war trudges on no matter what. They don't call a "time out" during battle just because it's too hot. In fact we were trained in GQ (General Quarters) in blistering heat above 110 degrees while wearing full protective gear with all ventillation shut down. This is what would be required in a real world scenero. I guess I shouldn't say I disagree with you but will say with confidence that when I was in this would never happen and I would be very suprised if they do this now for the reasons I mentioned above. Please to share with us which boot camp you were part of.
Thanks

 

[christlovedeaf]

Incorrect! That wasn't about loving relationships between two consenting people......that was more about ritual sex worship....like not sex as a sacred act, but more sex as a profane act.......

Part of it is true, but question is this, in God's view, not people's, that is,,, what is sexual purity?

 

[Heath]

You didn't say which one you were in. I'm sorry but as an ex-military person I have to dis-agree about armed services shutting down boot camp. When I was in we truged on no matter what. You know why? Because war trudges on no matter what. They don't call a "time out" during battle just because it's too hot. In fact we were trained in GQ (General Quarters) in blistering heat above 110 degrees while wearing full protective gear with all ventillation shut down. This is what would be required in a real world scenero. I guess I shouldn't say I disagree with you but will say with confidence that when I was in this would never happen and I would be very suprised if they do this now for the reasons I mentioned above. Please to share with us which boot camp you were part of.
Thanks

In the old days everybody in the service had to work out in all type of weather. Today the focus is on safety. The US Military raises a black flag on their boot camp grounds but during wartime there is no stopping because of hot weather you stay in the fight to the end. The boot camp is for white brothers only beside I need to lose weight and become stronger.

http://www.emilitary.org/article.php?aid=3970

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,usmc1_081105,00.00.html