Senate votes to cut military retirement pensions

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  1. Reba

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    Senate GOP fails in final bid to block military pension cuts in budget bill | Fox News
     
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    That's unfortunate and federal employee's pension got hammered down under budget bill too. My father's military pension was more generous than newer service members because the congress changed the military pension about decade ago.

    I want to end the corporate welfare, that most I care about.
     
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    To end corporate welfare effectively means no more Republican Party. They live and breath corporate welfare. They personify it. They live it. They are it. It is a Party of corruption so complete that it staggers the mind to try and wrap all the way around it.
     
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    I don't think so and I believe democrats support corporate welfare as well.

    Libertarians oppose corporate welfare and they want defense to be strictly to our country and doesn't want intervene with other countries, oppose any government-run pensions, oppose welfare for low income families, abolish most or all of taxes, doesn't support anti-discrimination for Americans with disabilities.
     
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    How can you not see what the Republican Party does. Do you not understand the relationship between what they do and who benefits the most?
    I am against at least half of what each Party does but I easily see what Republican politics is really about. The superrich who own them are ripping this country off like a monstrous sucking cluster of parasites and you cannot see it?
     
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    What do you think you saw in this vote? What do you think they do? I know that this vote does not benefit military retirees and disabled members.

    Members of all parties are rich, so what does that prove?

    Why should the military retirees suffer?
     
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    House Introduces Bill to Prevent Military Pension Cuts | Washington Free Beacon

    It looks like Fitzpatrick's bill probably won't be easy path in senate because it take a hard on illegal immigrants and democrats got support from latino voters.

    The simple bill to restore the pension for disabled veterans without compromise may have a better chance to pass.
     
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    I'm wondering what else was in it. That's usually what happens. Somebody proposes a bill or amendment for one thing, but they tack on all kinds of nastiness onto it, and they when it doesn't pass because of all the crap that's in it they cry "they don't want the one thing"!!!
     
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    I wonder how many in the Senate are veterans.
     
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    I doubt that this have any senators running to get food stamps.
     
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    Or recruiting Marines.
     
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    We absolutely must protect the rich from paying higher taxes by giving up a portion of our pensions.
     
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    If the bill is passed, I think more people won't join the military once they hear about its cuts on retirees/disabled benefits. It will look bad on Congress. Right?
     
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    Is that a joke?
     
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    Not really, military pension has been cut or reformed over time, to make less generous, but more people want to join the military.

    The change in pension only affect newer veterans, not retired veterans like Reba and her husband, and my father.
     
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    Question; how long does one have to be active before retiring?
     
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    20 years to qualify for military pension benefit.

    but disabled veterans get severance pay if they are less than 20 years.
     
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    :ty:

    So we have three benefits for the military service members?

    Veterans' benefits for those who were active for less than 20 years
    Retirement benefits for those who retired after 20 years of service
    Disabled benefits for those who became disabled while on active

    One co-worker told me that if he died while on active, his life insurance (that is available for military service members only) would cover it, not the government. He had to buy the insurance. I said WTF?
     
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    Possibly. It will certainly make careers in the military look less desirable.
     

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