Here's a hot topic I'm sure I may end up banned from this site as well this post being censored or deleted but I don't care anymore I'm done with "Deaf Culture" I have no respect for that culture anymore due to the massive prejudice and inner-culture racism. Its offical ASL is a social retardation upon the Deaf culture weather they like it or not its a FACT provable heck I've always disliked the NAACP for keeping the racism alive etc. But they look perfect compared to Deaf Culture & Pro ASL freaks. Since they don't have so much inner racism like this culture does!! Now on topic... SEE vs. ASL why you wonder... Easy let me show you why It's very critcal that anyone born deaf or being brought up and educated needs to be taught SEE first before taking on other languages thruout the deaf culture in order to avoid these issues mentioned in the next paragraph. They can stay in denial and accuse me of being biased or motivated to move them towards CI/HA/ speaking etc... Which is PURE BULLSH#T and they know it themselves deep inside if they actually have a reasonable logic thinking skillset. I've experinced the best of BOTH WORLDS so those accuscations hold no water at all. Too many instances where ASL folks make no sense whatsoever to the average american /english speaking folk. Its sad that they don't notice it themselves because they ASSume they're speaking proper english or make sense to everyone when in reality they don't at all cept for their own socially retarded ASL partners/ cultures. It's outrageously embrassing since they act like it's all good and normal yet hearing people and real Americans are like WTF?!?! LMAO that dude is out of wack did he ever go to school or is he really DEAF and DUMB? Take a look at a few members it's easy to spot these very issues I'm talking about. Theres a user with a title as ASL GURU as well many ASL hardliners and pro deaf supporters with the same issues themselves that remain in denial, since they REALLY cannot see nor grasp that fact since they started off with ASL instead of SEE. Guess what none of that ASL GURU user's posts make a damn sense at all. Too much ASL= socially retarded period. Thats's why they passed the rehab act to give parents the choice to bring their child into mainstream schools and ensure they don't suffer these consquences of being deeply immersed into ASL/ deaf culture as it's NOT the REAL world. But yes many love to use it as a crunch and remain in that world after school is out and even obtain jobs thruout the nation helping other deafies which is honorable to a certain degree but when they're purely doing it to help growth of the culture and ASL as well push their options and judge those who want to go the other route than ASL and Deaf Colleges etc..It's unacceptable and disgusting. Now let's watch the retards help retards by bashing the living hellva outta of this post brought to you by a profound hearing loss user since birth. My last post and I'm not coming back ever again feel free to do what you want to with this information.