Paleo and Primal Lifestyle

Boult

Active Member
Hi there! I want to share with you this great compendium regarding Paleo and Primal lifestyle.

So here you go!

Read this first: Introduction to the Paleolithic Diet.
http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

The Paleolithic Diet Explained: Ancient Answers to Modern Problems (A PaleolithicDiet Infographic)
http://infographic.paleolithicdiet.com/

Paleolithic lifestyle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_lifestyle

The Paleolithic/Paleo/Caveman/Primal Diet Defined
http://paleodiet.com/definition.htm

Getting Started: A Brief Guide to Paleo / Primal Living
http://paynowlivelater.blogspot.com/2009/08/getting-started-brief-guide-to-paleo.html
(Be sure to watch those nutshell videos!)

Definitive Guide: The Primal Blueprint
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-primal-blueprint/

Paleo eating:
http://whatsinwhatyoueat.org/paleo-diet/

Handy PDF guide to Food Quality and how to choose what’s best.
http://www.balancedbites.com/PDFs/BalancedBites_FoodQuality.pdf

There's a free e-book done by Doug Robb;
A Paleo Diet for the 21st Century
http://www.healthhabits.ca/stuff-i-like/a-paleo-diet-for-the-21st-century/

Paleo vs Primal vs Atkins: What's the difference?
Maybe you will say oh this is like Atkins diet so what's the difference between those two?
http://huntgatherlove.com/content/paleo-vs-primal-vs-atkins
http://paleohacks.com/questions/4034/whats-the-difference-between-atkins-and-the-paleo-diet#axzz1Hg1MTT54

And here's the article on grass-fed beef for dining in and eating out in Tucson, AZ! (For my friends living in Tucson!)
Grass-fed beef for dining in, eating out:
http://azstarnet.com/entertainment/dining/article_6b0d86b2-0547-5274-8533-efc2bd406ea9.html

This link has the direct link to local farms that you can get grass-fed products;
Eat Wild: http://www.eatwild.com/

Priorities for Eating Paleo on a Budget
http://balancedbites.com/2010/10/priorities-for-eating-paleo-on-a-budget.html

Paleo Poor: Your guide to the grocery store
http://whole9life.com/2011/01/paleo-poor-your-guide-to-the-grocery-store/

Five reasons to go seasonal
http://whole9life.com/2010/12/five-reasons-to-go-seasonal/


Do you want to see what kind of Paleo and Primal recipes they have done? Visit those sites to check them out;
The Foodee Project http://www.thefoodee.co/
Chowstalker http://www.chowstalker.com/
Paleo Recipe Resource Page http://www.healthhabits.ca/2010/01/25/paleo-recipe-resource-page/
Paleo Pot http://paleopot.com/
PaleoFood.com http://www.paleofood.com/
The Food Lovers' Primal Palate http://www.primal-palate.com/p/recipes.html
Civilized Caveman Cooking Creations http://www.civilizedcavemancooking.com/

Want to see a story with real results?
Real Results – FTA Feature: http://www.engrevo.com/blog/real-results-fta-feature/
The Unconquerable Dave http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-unconquerable-dave/

PaleolithicDiet: A free members-only guide to the Paleo world.
Members receive a curated email of the best Paleo content and offerings. Become a member now.
http://paleolithicdiet.com/q5hxd

I have told several people I chat with about this: I suggested them to try 30 days without grains, JUST GRAINS! If they still have grains in their pantry cupboard then WEAN from it till it's gone and do 30 days of no grains! Then SEE how you feel so far without grains! The reason I suggested no grains is because it is major cause of Weight gains, IBS and is anti-nutrients! As Ian Lucas quoted this: "The Big Ideas are to avoid grains whose proteins will worm their way through your intestines, vegetable fats that will rust you like a piece of steel, and excessive sugar that will harm you six ways from Sunday."

Let me know how you fared without grains for 30 days! I did… I LOST some weights and I felt better!

Important! Eat WHOLE REAL foods, Do exercises, rest and sleep LONGER! (don't rely on alarm!) and Get some SUN for Vita D! (I don't lather lotions at all that's another story as I have gone Paleo/Primal on hygiene aspects!)

If you decided you want to do more than without grains then I recommend reading this one page article to go Paleo for 30 days! (it has downloadable PDF that you can print out)
The Whole30, Version 4.0: http://whole9life.com/2011/06/whole-30-v4/

This is a great motivational guide by J. Stanton from Gnolls.com
“Eat Like A Predator, Not Like Prey”: Paleo In Six Easy Steps, A Motivational Guide
http://www.gnolls.org/1141/eat-like-a-predator-not-like-prey-paleo-in-six-easy-steps-a-motivational-guide/

Here's another good "What is Paleo?" link which has some of links from above included and it is good read too!
FITBOMB: What Is The Paleo Diet?
http://www.fitbomb.com/p/why-i-eat-paleo.html

Beef Jerky Drier instruction in PDF:
http://www.rawpaleodiet.com/beef-jerky/

Intermittent Fasting or Interval Fasting:
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s2/sh/4f70955a-0aeb-4fc1-947a-a1377652055c/b338b5f4e9fcf0a0584919803b6b383a
 

Beowulf

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hi there! I want to share with you this great compendium regarding Paleo and Primal lifestyle.

So here you go!

Read this first: Introduction to the Paleolithic Diet.
INTRODUCTION TO THE PALEOLITHIC DIET

The Paleolithic Diet Explained: Ancient Answers to Modern Problems (A PaleolithicDiet Infographic)
The PaleolithicDiet Infographic

Paleolithic lifestyle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Paleolithic lifestyle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Paleolithic/Paleo/Caveman/Primal Diet Defined
The Paleolithic/Paleo/Caveman/Primal Diet Defined

Getting Started: A Brief Guide to Paleo / Primal Living
Pay Now Live Later: Getting Started: A Brief Guide to Paleo / Primal Living
(Be sure to watch those nutshell videos!)

Definitive Guide: The Primal Blueprint
Definitive Guide: The Primal Blueprint | Mark's Daily Apple

Paleo eating:
What's in What You Eat? » Paleo Eating

Handy PDF guide to Food Quality and how to choose what’s best.
http://www.balancedbites.com/PDFs/BalancedBites_FoodQuality.pdf

There's a free e-book done by Doug Robb;
A Paleo Diet for the 21st Century
A Paleo Diet for the 21st Century

Paleo vs Primal vs Atkins: What's the difference?
Maybe you will say oh this is like Atkins diet so what's the difference between those two?
Paleo Vs. Primal Vs. Atkins | Hunt.Gather.Love.
What's the difference between Atkins and the Paleo diet? - Paleo Hacks.com

And here's the article on grass-fed beef for dining in and eating out in Tucson, AZ! (For my friends living in Tucson!)
Grass-fed beef for dining in, eating out:
Grass-fed beef for dining in, eating out

This link has the direct link to local farms that you can get grass-fed products;
Eat Wild: Eat Wild

Priorities for Eating Paleo on a Budget
Priorities for Eating Paleo on a Budget | Balanced Bites | Holistic & Paleo Nutrition Coaching & Seminars

Paleo Poor: Your guide to the grocery store
Paleo Poor: Your guide to the grocery store | Whole9 | Let us change your life.

Five reasons to go seasonal
Five reasons to go seasonal | Whole9 | Let us change your life.


Do you want to see what kind of Paleo and Primal recipes they have done? Visit those sites to check them out;
The Foodee Project The Foodee Project
Chowstalker Gallery - chowstalker
Paleo Recipe Resource Page Paleo Recipe Resource Page
Paleo Pot PaleoPot – Paleo Diet Crock Pot & Slow Cooker Recipes
PaleoFood.com Paleo Diet/Paleolithic Diet Recipes/Cookbook, Caveman Diet Recipes, Primal Diet Recipes
The Food Lovers' Primal Palate The Food Lovers' Primal Palate: Recipes
Civilized Caveman Cooking Creations Civilized Caveman Cooking Creations

Want to see a story with real results?
Real Results – FTA Feature: » Real Results – FTA Feature engrevo
The Unconquerable Dave The Unconquerable Dave | Mark's Daily Apple

PaleolithicDiet: A free members-only guide to the Paleo world.
Members receive a curated email of the best Paleo content and offerings. Become a member now.
PaleolithicDiet.com - A free members-only guide to the Paleo world. Members receive a curated email of the best Paleo content and offerings. Become a member now.

I have told several people I chat with about this: I suggested them to try 30 days without grains, JUST GRAINS! If they still have grains in their pantry cupboard then WEAN from it till it's gone and do 30 days of no grains! Then SEE how you feel so far without grains! The reason I suggested no grains is because it is major cause of Weight gains, IBS and is anti-nutrients! As Ian Lucas quoted this: "The Big Ideas are to avoid grains whose proteins will worm their way through your intestines, vegetable fats that will rust you like a piece of steel, and excessive sugar that will harm you six ways from Sunday."

Let me know how you fared without grains for 30 days! I did… I LOST some weights and I felt better!

Important! Eat WHOLE REAL foods, Do exercises, rest and sleep LONGER! (don't rely on alarm!) and Get some SUN for Vita D! (I don't lather lotions at all that's another story as I have gone Paleo/Primal on hygiene aspects!)

If you decided you want to do more than without grains then I recommend reading this one page article to go Paleo for 30 days! (it has downloadable PDF that you can print out)
The Whole30, Version 4.0: The Whole30, Version 4.0 | Whole9 | Let us change your life.

This is a great motivational guide by J. Stanton from Gnolls.com
“Eat Like A Predator, Not Like Prey”: Paleo In Six Easy Steps, A Motivational Guide
“Eat Like A Predator, Not Like Prey”: Paleo In Six Easy Steps, A Motivational Guide - GNOLLS.ORG

Here's another good "What is Paleo?" link which has some of links from above included and it is good read too!
FITBOMB: What Is The Paleo Diet?
FITBOMB: What Is The Paleo Diet?

Beef Jerky Drier instruction in PDF:
Beef Jerky

Intermittent Fasting or Interval Fasting:
Intermittent Fasting or Interval Fasting or Irregular Fasting
Wow. I bookmarked this page! Thanks!
 

Smithtr

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Barbaro

Well-Known Member
I do recognize some of your links you posted, Boult. You stated you have lost some weights. Did your skin clear up as well? I've seen many personal blogs and they tried Paleo diet have great results, including psoriasis and acne just disappeared. Their skins are amazing.

Some Paleo diet blogs I noticed that they do eat cheese and heavy cream. Do you eat them or avoid them?

I am not looking for weight loss. I am already thin. However, I have to keep eating, so I don't lose a pound. My goal is to make my muscles lean. I am half-Mexican, and it is going to be difficult for me to give up legumes, including corn tortilla. I don't eat wheat. I am going to give up brown rice to see how I feel for two weeks. If it works out, I will probably making cauliflower rice instead. Thank goodness, Paleo diet permits dark chocolate and coconut. Yum.

Can you tell me why canola oil is not allowed?
 

Boult

Active Member
I do recognize some of your links you posted, Boult. You stated you have lost some weights. Did your skin clear up as well? I've seen many personal blogs and they tried Paleo diet have great results, including psoriasis and acne just disappeared. Their skins are amazing.

Some Paleo diet blogs I noticed that they do eat cheese and heavy cream. Do you eat them or avoid them?

I am not looking for weight loss. I am already thin. However, I have to keep eating, so I don't lose a pound. My goal is to make my muscles lean. I am half-Mexican, and it is going to be difficult for me to give up legumes, including corn tortilla. I don't eat wheat. I am going to give up brown rice to see how I feel for two weeks. If it works out, I will probably making cauliflower rice instead. Thank goodness, Paleo diet permits dark chocolate and coconut. Yum.

Can you tell me why canola oil is not allowed?
I did not have any skin issues before I started this. I belong to a FaceBook group for Paleo enthusiasts, there are several members having skins issues and recovered from them after doing the 30 days Challenge.

Edit: I went from waist 38 to 32 from March to now this year! I don't care about scale (weight)

There are several kinds of Paleo Diet they partake. Regarding dairy, there's "Lacto-Paleo" which follow Paleo Diet and include dairy. It is good idea to do 30 days challenge without Diary then at end of it and reintroduce them and see how body react. Although those who follow Primal Lifestyle like those of Mark Sission (from Mark's Daily Apple ) do cheese and heavy creams as long it is raw or organic. I have done a paleo recipe, Meatzza, that called for Sour Cream (basically a cultured heavy cream like), shredded organic cheese, parmesans cheese.

Canola oil is a "new" industrial oil and is highly processed from rapeseed and used to be called "rape oil" but they used "canola" as nice name…
The Great Con-ola - Know Your Fats - Weston A Price Foundation
Canola Oil May Be “Paleo Diet” Approved, But I Won’t Eat It | Balanced Bites | Holistic & Paleo Nutrition Coaching & Seminars

Vegetables have better carbs than those grain based foods which can help maintain weight instead of losing weight.

Paleo and Primal lifestyle is not all about losing weight, it's all about getting rid of body fats, getting healthy and avoid all the diseases caused by standard american diet. It can help one get strong by staying active while eating paleo friendly foods than crave on grains, sugars, legumes and dairy as well as processed/junk foods.

That's why I said to eat real whole food, Sleep well, exercise well (Paleo men back then doesn't exercise but were very active like hunting and gathering… they had to drag big animals and climb tress and sprint not run or jog remind me of my old high school PE workout… we do sprint, push up, jumping jack, climb peg board and ropes, sit up… tug of war. ) and enjoy sunshines! (Get outside and get active) Those who follow Paleo Lifestyles tends to join Crossfit to get intense short burst of exercises. no treadmills or stationary bikes! Some take both Crossfit and Krav. I am not in either one. Since I am pretty active as I go out often and bike is my main mode of transportation.

Here's a good real life story: Meet Staci: Your New Powerlifting Super Hero | Nerd Fitness

Cheers!
 
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Aleser

New Member
This "diet" and "lifestyle" is unsustainable. Yes, that's how people ate in "the old days"- when humans died at 30.

Low carb diets in any form are dangerous and stupid. Your body may function and you may temporarily feel good, but that doesn't make it healthy.
 

Boult

Active Member
This "diet" and "lifestyle" is unsustainable. Yes, that's how people ate in "the old days"- when humans died at 30.

Low carb diets in any form are dangerous and stupid. Your body may function and you may temporarily feel good, but that doesn't make it healthy.
Are you going to tell him THAT to Art De Vany which he has been Paleo/Athlete for 25 years that this diet is DANGEROUS?? His famous quote is "What's is bagel?" He never ate bagels! and see his website and find out how old he is! He's much more healthier than my dad who is 10 yrs older than him!
See his website: Welcome to the public section of Arthur De Vany's Evolutionary Fitness. - Arthur De Vany Members

Obviously you are not well informed that back in the Paleolithic era, we don't have house, gun or doctor. The reason the life expectancy is average 30 yrs old is because of accident, mauled by animals, natural disaster etc but not health. Yes, of course, infant mortality rate is high because no protection from predators that eat humans. There were no diseases recorded before farming started!

This diet (which means lifestyle though) is not a temporary or fad… It's long term commitment and I have seen success in long term…

Grains is dangerous and Paleo diet exclude them.

Legumes is not toxic free 100% and Paleo Diet don't include them.

Sugar is toxic and it is like a cocaine! and Paleo Diet don't include them.

Processed Foods is dangerous and Paleo Diet don't include them.

Junk Foods is dangerous and Paleo Diet don't include them..

Here's Wheat Belly; Wheat belly | The Heart Scan Blog

You know those beer drinkers have beer belly why? GRAINS!

Before the Agriculture era, we don't eat any grains… we didn't have any diseases… till we farmed and harvested grains… diseases followed… ALL KINDS including CANCER!

Research and see for yourself! My step mother has celiac disease and can't eat grains that has glutens so they must be gluten-free so I have suggested her to forgo no grains for good.

I have friends who reversed type 2 diabetes completely by going Paleo… and doesn't need any shots or do blood check anymore… Paleo Diet completely lower the blood sugar to safest level. see those links;
Paleo Diet and Diabetes: Improved Cardiovascular Risk Factors | Diabetic Mediterranean Diet

Paleo Diet for Heart Patients With Diabetes and Prediabetes | Diabetic Mediterranean Diet

Download and Read this peer reviewed document titled;
The western diet and lifestyle and diseases of civilization This document talk about all those diseases that occurred after Neolithic revolution.

So you think SAD is better than Paleo Diet? Yeah everyone has all kinds of diet… you are saying diet is not good… you already have a diet… your kind! Ha!

Cheers!
 

Aleser

New Member
Hi, I'm Aleser, and I'll be your tour guide this morning.

Are you going to tell him THAT to Art De Vany which he has been Paleo/Athlete for 25 years that this diet is DANGEROUS??
This does not negate the fact that humans are, in fact, meant to eat carbs and live longer now that we have stable access to them.


There were no diseases recorded before farming started!
Yeah, about that.


This diet (which means lifestyle though) is not a temporary or fad… It's long term commitment and I have seen success in long term…
There's also people with all sorts of long term eating disorders. Doesn't make it a great idea, does it?


Grains is dangerous and Paleo diet exclude them.
Hmm.. Hmm...

Legumes is not toxic free 100% and Paleo Diet don't include them.
Hmmm.....


Sugar is toxic and it is like a cocaine!
You do realize that sugar is in fruits and vegetables, and that a no-carbohydrate diet is dangerous, unsustainable, and may result in death?

Even if your body produces enough glucose via gluconeogenesis and fat, a low carbohydrate diet or no-carbohydrate diet (only no carbohydrate diets are sugar free) can, or in the case of no carb, will completely screw up an equally essential process- glycogenolysis- two ways! A lack of carbohydrates reduces your glucagon production, and ketones in your blood (the waste byproducts of a low-carb diet) inhibit release of any glycogen present.

With these two important regulatory features inhibited, your body cannot shield itself from hypoglycemia, and anything from physical activity to a fast of only several hours can deprive your brain and body of sufficient glucose levels (called hypoglycemia), killing brain cells and potentially killing you.

That's why therapeutic ketogenic diets are not used with competitive athletes without extreme caution, including carrying lifesaving injections of glucagon (and sometimes epinephrine) which the person can only pray someone will be trained to use in the event that the above happens.

Eating relatively large amounts of sugars regularly is ESSENTIAL to having glycogen stores. Glycogen stores are are a very important part of healthy human survival, and when depleted (which happens regularly in normal humans) must be replenished with... you guessed it, eating carbohydrates.

So yes, sugar is "addictive". In the same way air is "addictive"- namely, because humans need it.

Processed Foods is dangerous and Paleo Diet don't include them.
Processed how? You're making awfully general statements here.


Junk Foods is dangerous and Paleo Diet don't include them..
A lack of moderation around any food is dangerous. a "paleo" diet is not a moderate diet, it is an extreme diet.


Before the Agriculture era, we don't eat any grains… we didn't have any diseases… till we farmed and harvested grains…
Yeah about that.


mother has celiac disease and can't eat grains that has glutens so they must be gluten-free so I have suggested her to forgo no grains for good.
You do know that celiac disease is a serious MODERN malfunction of the immune system, correct? And that diseases of the immune system are particularly MORE prevalent these days (thanks to modern hygiene) than they ever were in the past? It is, if anything, an anti-natural state: without modern sanitation, Celiac would not likely exist anywhere near the current proportions.


I have friends who reversed type 2 diabetes completely by going Paleo… and doesn't need any shots or do blood check anymore…
Type 2 diabetes is a PROGRESSIVE disease. It is well known that a low-carbohydrate diet of any type and exercise can TEMPORARILY control it, but eventually the vast majority of type 2 diabetics will require medication and insulin.

Dietary control of type 2 diabetes is not without its downsides, too. Low carbohydrate diets usually leads to the spilling of ketones in the blood and out of the urine, and may further the risk of kidney and organ damage (not to mention, its basically waste products in your blood. NOT a good plan.) A lot of people suffer some pretty nasty complications from changing their major source of food: I know someone on a diet similar or identical to the "paleo" diet (a ketogenic diet for epilepsy, which is considered the last resort after many medications have failed, because it is a dangerous diet that's considered unsustainable!) who suffers kidney stones at a rate of once a month during a good year when on the diet, a known complication of a low-carb high-meat diet.

Additionally, starting insulin shortly after diagnosis is actually becoming popular with well-informed diabetics now, because using injected insulin may delay that beta cell death, keep c-peptide higher (lower c-peptide by beta cell depletion is linked to more diabetes complications and earlier death, even when you take into account factors like glucose control- less c-peptide means more harm among all diabetics), and prolong survival. Insulin isn't a last resort for type 2 anymore, and modern diabetics and endocrinologists are moving to embrace it as the first line treatment for ALL types of diabetes, not just type 1 diabetes.

Your friends are being irresponsible by not testing their blood glucose levels. Without frequent blood glucose monitoring a diabetic has no feedback on the ever-dynamic system of glucose control: yeah, your glucose was good last week, but how's it next week when you're stressed or menstruating or getting sick? Glucose measurement isn't just to form averages, it is for establishing a dynamic glucose control routine.

Type 2 diabetes is an absolutely incurable disease. Your friends MAY be managing it now but they will not forever.


saying diet is not good… you already have a diet… your kind! Ha!
Healthy eating is when you're not on a diet plan. Healthy eating is when you eat what you want, when you want to, enough to be full, on a regular basis. Healthy eating is when you try to eat good foods but don't always do it right.

Healthy eating isn't a "lifestyle". It isn't a program and you don't need websites for it, and you don't need to defend it. Healthy eating doesn't have arbitrary rules or guidebooks, and it doesn't have paranoia about what we put in our mouths.

Your delusion about your diet is fine, but your views about modern diet "causing" all illnesses are simply highly inaccurate, and extremely offensive to people who ARE sick. The "dietary prevention and cure" of illnesses has been around since medicine itself, and its largely been a bunk (save for the sound advice of eating enough calories, protein, fat, CARBS, and nutrients) since then.


That concludes this tour, and I've hoped you've enjoyed the journey through all the factual errors in your post. Please exit through the upper righthand button on your screen.
 

DeafCaroline

New Member
This "diet" and "lifestyle" is unsustainable. Yes, that's how people ate in "the old days"- when humans died at 30.

Low carb diets in any form are dangerous and stupid. Your body may function and you may temporarily feel good, but that doesn't make it healthy.
Fruits and vegetables ARE carbs. So are beans and grains. People keep thinking carbs means flour and sugar....which is a common assumption but false. ALL fruits and vegetables and legumes and grains are broken down within your body into sugar albeit at a slower rate than refined carbs (carbs that have already been broken down and processed, fibers removed). Beans take a lot longer to break down into sugar so it enters your bloodstream more slowly. That's another fact that many people don't know. Refined white sugar is already processed so it enters your bloodstream very very quickly.This is not a bad thing when you need a rush of sugar for energy - say after a long hard workout. But if you are sedentary - then consuming refined white sugar all day long is bad for you because your body doesn't need it nor can it burn it off right away so it gets stored as fat.

Some people do feel better on a gluten-free diet, some don't feel any changes. Everyone's different.

It's all about commonsense - the more whole and natural foods you eat, the healthier you would be for it. doesn't matter if it's the paleo diet or the south beach diet, or the Japanese diet or the Italian peasant diet, one cannot go wrong with eating natural foods and minimizing simplified refined carbs (flour, white sugar).

I'm a vegan and I can attest that since I cut out all meat and dairy and only have refined white sugar with my cup of coffee in the morning, that my skin improved so much that it's now as smooth and as soft as a baby's skin, no skin lotion required. Last time I had a cold was before I became a vegan. The other very interesting side effect of eating "clean" is that my otherwise very very sweet tooth is now barely existent. I still like sweets and chocolates but I don't crave them. I used to be the kid that stole my siblings' hallowe'en candy - I loved sugar that much.

Not that I am pushing everyone to become a vegan, just saying that the healthier the content of the food you eat, the healthier you'll be for it.

An apple is healthier than a cookie. Grilled fish healthier than a Big Mac. Fresh squeezed orange juice healthier than a soda. Salad is healthier than potato chips.

A lot of very obese people who can't stop eating or craving food - it's because their bodies are demanding nutrition that they're not getting so they send signals to the brain to keep eating until the need for nutrients is more or less satisfied. But it never is because the very obese is not eating properly so the cycle repeats itself every day.

My body is getting more than its minimum quota of nutrients a day so I don't get cravings nor do I binge.

Does that mean one can never eat cookies and chips again? Of course not, there's nothing wrong with indulging in a treat once in a while and life would be so boring without little pleasures such as a piece of chocolate mousse cake or french fries drenched with grated cheese and hot gravy but moderation is advised.
 

deafskeptic

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Premium Member
Fruits and vegetables ARE carbs. So are beans and grains. People keep thinking carbs means flour and sugar....which is a common assumption but false. ALL fruits and vegetables and legumes and grains are broken down within your body into sugar. That's another fact that many people don't know. Refine white sugar is already processed so it enters your bloodstream very very quickly. This is not a bad thing when you need a rush of sugar for energy - say after a long hard workout. But if you are sedentary - then consuming refined white sugar all day long is bad for you because your body doesn't need it nor can it burn it off right away so it gets stored as fat.

Some people do feel better on a gluten-free diet, some don't feel any changes. Everyone's different.

It's all about commonsense - the more whole and natural foods you eat, the healthier you would be for it. doesn't matter if it's the paleo diet or the south beach diet, or the Japanese diet or the Italian peasant diet, one cannot go wrong with eating natural foods and minimizing simplified refined carbs (flour, white sugar).

I'm a vegan and I can attest that since I cut out all meat and dairy and only have refined white sugar with my cup of coffee in the morning, that my skin improved so much that it's now as smooth and as soft as a baby's skin, no skin lotion required. Last time I had a cold was before I became a vegan. The other very interesting side effect of eating "clean" is that my otherwise very very sweet tooth is now barely existent. I still like sweets and chocolates but I don't crave them. I used to be the kid that stole my siblings' hallowe'en candy - I loved sugar that much.

Not that I am pushing everyone to become a vegan, just saying that the healthier the content of the food you eat, the healthier you'll be for it.

An apple is healthier than a cookie. Grilled fish healthier than a Big Mac. Fresh squeezed orange juice healthier than a soda. Salad is healthier than potato chips.

A lot of very obese people who can't stop eating or craving food - it's because their bodies are demanding nutrition that they're not getting so they send signals to the brain to keep eating until the need for nutrients is more or less satisfied. But it never is because the very obese is not eating properly so the cycle repeats itself every day.

My body is getting more than its minimum quota of nutrients a day so I don't get cravings nor do I binge.

Does that mean one can never eat cookies and chips again? Of course not, there's nothing wrong with indulging in a treat once in a while and life would be so boring without little pleasures such as a piece of chocolate mousse cake or french fries drenched with grated cheese and hot gravy but moderation is advised.
As any diabetic will tell, ya carbs are necessary. I do a combination of Carb counting and exchanges for my meal planning. if I eat too little carbs, I risk dangerously low blood sugar. If its get below 30, I risk dying from too litte blood sugar. If I eat too much I risk dangerously high blood sugar which will result in complications. That is assuming that I'm doing everything possible to keep it under control - ie exercising and taking my meds. Normal blood sugar is from 80 to 140. Below 80 is not good nor is blood sugar above 140.


There are two kinds of carbs: simple carbs and complex carbs. Sugar, corn syurp, and sucrose are all simple carbs. They can cause spikes in blood sugar so diabetics have to limit it. However it's useful to have those on hand when your blood sugar is dangerously low.

Complex carbs on the other hand should make up the bulk of anyone's diet - not just diabetics. Beans, whole grain pasta, ww bread are examples of complex carbs. I have found that I am much less likely to have high blood sugar if I have beans regularly in my diet. i have found that eating plenty of veggies really helps with cravings and that not skipping meals helps too.
 

deafskeptic

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As any diabetic will tell, ya carbs are necessary. I do a combination of Carb counting and exchanges for my meal planning. if I eat too little carbs, I risk dangerously low blood sugar. If its get below 30, I risk dying from too litte blood sugar. If I eat too much I risk dangerously high blood sugar which will result in complications. That is assuming that I'm doing everything possible to keep it under control - ie exercising and taking my meds. Normal blood sugar is from 80 to 140. Below 80 is not good nor is blood sugar above 140.


There are two kinds of carbs: simple carbs and complex carbs. Sugar, corn syurp, and sucrose are all simple carbs. They can cause spikes in blood sugar so diabetics have to limit it. However it's useful to have those on hand when your blood sugar is dangerously low.

Complex carbs on the other hand should make up the bulk of anyone's diet - not just diabetics. Beans, whole grain pasta, ww bread are examples of complex carbs. I have found that I am much less likely to have high blood sugar if I have beans regularly in my diet. i have found that eating plenty of veggies really helps with cravings and that not skipping meals helps too.
Oh yes, I forgot to mention fruits as well. Most could be classified as complex carbs. I plan to have blueberry yogurt soup mixed with my oatmeal tomorrow for breakfast. I made it myself.
 

DeafCaroline

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Oh yes, I forgot to mention fruits as well. Most could be classified as complex carbs. I plan to have blueberry yogurt soup mixed with my oatmeal tomorrow for breakfast. I made it myself.
wow! my mother is the only person I know who made yoghurt herself. That's so cool you made it yourself!
 

deafskeptic

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wow! my mother is the only person I know who made yoghurt herself. That's so cool you made it yourself!
I didn't make the yogurt itself. I made yogurt soup. I hope that cleared it up. The commercial brands tend to have too much sugar in it so I had to make it myself. I just bought plain Greek sytle yogurt.
 

Aleser

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Fruits and vegetables ARE carbs. So are beans and grains.
Uhm, if you'd bothered to read my next post, you'd see me solidly debunking that big old myth. This "lifestyle" focuses heavily on meat eating as a primary nutrition source, and is in practice almost always low carb.

So, uhm, redundant advice is redundant?
 

Aleser

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wow! my mother is the only person I know who made yoghurt herself. That's so cool you made it yourself!
Yogurt is ridiculously easy to make. You need milk, a pot, and some starter culture (some previous homemade yogurt, or a cup of store bought yogurt). That's it- modern contraptions are handy but you don't NEED them.
 

DeafCaroline

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Uhm, if you'd bothered to read my next post, you'd see me solidly debunking that big old myth. This "lifestyle" focuses heavily on meat eating as a primary nutrition source, and is in practice almost always low carb.

So, uhm, redundant advice is redundant?
Oh sorry, I wasn't challenging you directly - just the general misconceptions many people have about what defines "carbs". Just pointing out that complex carbs are carbs too.
 
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