I am So Sick of Hearing That Raising Taxes is Bad For the Economy.

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  1. Doug5

    Doug5 New Member

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    It is always the extremely wealthy/rich people making this argument.

    The 99% people should use this argument against them. Lowering taxes on the middle class and poor helps the economy most. THe tax rate on the rich has negilible affect on the economy.

    Get rid of sales taxes and gas taxes which hits the lowest income people the most.
     
  2. rolling7

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    And how would you pay for all the entitlement programs? Should not every person (note:I did not say every "rich" person) participate in funding entitlement programs?
    An example would be those middle class taxpayers who fund alot of the programs but receive not one penny of service. I'm middle class and have never received one penny of SSI, SSDI, C.H.I.P., FOOD STAMPS, ETC. I've paid thousands and thousands of dollars in taxes.
     
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    Reba Retired Terp Premium Member

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    I support the Fair Tax.

    p.s.

    I'm not rich.
     
  4. Doug5

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    who cares? We are already 15T in the whole. Whats wrong with 5T more?

    Seriously, they can cut things like the military and DEA and shrink down the federal govmint. Quit subisidizing illegals. THen audit the Fed Reserve and see whats goin on with the monetary policy.

    The fed taxes the old by lowering interests rates and printing too much money. This makes it impossible for people to make any money of interest in savings accounts and it also lowers the value of the money saved
     
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    Foxrac Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Second here.

    Some states like Oregon doesn't have sale tax.
     
  6. Foxrac

    Foxrac Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Yup, I think that government should stop subsidizing on corns and other commodities, including gas.
     
  7. rolling7

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    Good for you to say that but don't stop there. Go after entitlement abuse also.
    Right now there is a ton of news about WS, banks, mortgage companies, etc. abusing the systems and being charged (some even criminally) for the abuse. When will we see charges against the ordinary man who abuses the entitlement programs?
     
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    i posted that on my FB wall last week. Love it.
     
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    If they were caught abusing their entitlements, they'll be charged.
     
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    It's the best photo caption I've ever seen. I will recycle ad naseum.
     
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    shel90 Audist are not welcome Premium Member

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    LOL, I laughed at that when I saw you posting that on your FB.
     
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    snicker...

    Ah... Where to start... I suppose you are aware of the Federal Reserve System, which was created to further the goals of the moneyed class, which was to get away from gold/silver as money towards fiat currency. Nixon cemented the deal on August 15, 1971, moving the US to a pure fiat system. Look what happened to the value of the US dollar vis-a-vis gold and oil in the 70s. Don't forget to look at what happened during the 20s just a mere decade after the FRS was implemented. Not long after that, the IRS was enacted, I believe, to create the apparent reality that the paper dollar was real, by requiring taxes to support the government, gold, silver, or paper dollars accepted. It has been used to hide the fact that all of your taxes collected each year cannot possibly cover the entire operating budget of the US Govt (I'm talking during the 20th century). Now, it's a well-known fact that our taxes don't pay for it all, thusly the deficits and the bonds/treasury games that serve as shell-games to make it look real. Make it look as though that China and several other countries really make it possible for the gov't to borrow money to operate. It's not real!

    It is NOT that the rich people are not paying their taxes, but that gov't has gotten too big, and the business environment is very hostile to businesses with its numerous regulations and taxes. It's no wonder that jobs keep getting outsourced and more and more people are working on a part-time basis in this country. Please read the labor-relevant portions of this particular blog entry - Harvey Organ's - The Daily Gold and Silver Report: Baltic Dry Index and Related Shipping Problems with Greece/Phony Jobs report,1.2 million jobs seekers removed from BLS

    Read this, folks; this is where the problem lies - Thanksgiving: the triumph of capitalism over socialism - National Conservative | Examiner.com

    Another one here - http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2009/11/great-thanksgiving-hoax.html

    :wave:
     
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    You know what would really hurt the working class and people living in poverty? Poll tax.
     
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    Oh you are right. But who will go after them?

    Think about how many work for ICE.....not enough.
    Think about how many work for Border Patrol....not enough.
    And so on down the list .
    Entitlement enforcement is way, way down the list.
     
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    Whichever departments gave them assistance are the ones who go after them.
     
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    Abusing on entitlement is illegal as always and you could get in trouble with FBI or other agents who take care of entitlement.
     
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    whatdidyousay! Well-Known Member

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    That poster upset me as it is true about how the government think the people are stupid! We where told in my state if we voted for the seat belt law our auto insurance rate would go down. Right!! I voted against the law.
     
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    Foxrac Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Well, regardless on states with seat belt law or without seat belt law, the insurance companies could REFUSE to cover you after car accident without seat belt and it is on their policy.

    If you live in NH and decide to driving without seat belt then get into accident then auto insurance won't cover you, even unable to pay to fix your car or send a fat check if car is declared as totaled. You will be BIG LOSS if you don't wear seat belt and it is on insurance policy.

    In our state, there is no law on seat belt in back seat but it is required by auto insurance. If you want sit in back seat in my car so please click the seat belt or you will be OUT!
     
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