I have the note 8. My first was the note 2 then held out till the note 7 because like many, I frowned at phones with non removable batteries. We know what happen with that Note 7. As I was forced to turn it in...it actually started getting hot on the way to the Verizon store! I was stuck with the Galaxy 7se for a year till the note 8 came out. Of course I jumped on it and have been very happy since. Note 8 battery is great as well as speed. I do use the pen a lot and a lot of its features too.