Deaf Education research......

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Daredevel7 said:
Very interesting article and I am not surprised.
As for the part about the child getting by in a mainstream school but "could be a star" in deaf schools, this can be interpreted in two ways. The common and most predictable way is that in a deaf school, the child understands everything therefore he will do much better instead of "getting by" (fave term for Deaf to describe oral deaf). Another way of interpreting that is.... simply the deaf school is much easier, academic wise. But of course, no one wants to believe that.

I'm a stickler for education and some deaf schools are just not acceptable. Frankly, I don't care that it is accessible. It still doesn't make it right.
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My son's deaf school used the state curriculum. Same one used in the public school system.
 
rockdrummer said:
My comment was not a question on how to do it, just a comment that at some point it needs to be done.
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Ok. I may have misunderstood your post then. Your comment was "Because at some point you need to learn to read and write English. yeah?" when asked by PFH why spoken language is insisted upon. My response is that you can (and we do) still learn to read and write English with just ASL. Spoken language is not a must-have for learning to read and write English. If I'm still misunderstanding your post, then I'm sorry.
 
AlleyCat said:
Ok. I may have misunderstood your post then. Your comment was "Because at some point you need to learn to read and write English. yeah?" when asked by PFH why spoken language is insisted upon. My response is that you can (and we do) still learn to read and write English with just ASL. Spoken language is not a must-have for learning to read and write English. If I'm still misunderstanding your post, then I'm sorry.
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Ahh... you are right. He did say spoken English. My bad!
 
Daredevel7 said:
Very interesting article and I am not surprised.
As for the part about the child getting by in a mainstream school but "could be a star" in deaf schools, this can be interpreted in two ways. The common and most predictable way is that in a deaf school, the child understands everything therefore he will do much better instead of "getting by" (fave term for Deaf to describe oral deaf). Another way of interpreting that is.... simply the deaf school is much easier, academic wise. But of course, no one wants to believe that.

I'm a stickler for education and some deaf schools are just not acceptable. Frankly, I don't care that it is accessible. It still doesn't make it right.
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Like Jillio's son - The school I went to, Colorado School for the Deaf and the Blind adheres to the state standards and the district standards.
I must admit deaf schools can have their own set of issues caused by the mainstream schools having their rejects going to the deaf school. The rejects are the ones that they have to spend too much money on. This makes the schools look bad amongst other issues. This can be discussed in another thread.

However one certain deaf school is currently OUTPERFORMING the public schools in the state by a mile or two. Hearing parents of hearing children wants to send their kids to this certain school. :shock: (psst: This deaf school is run by deaf administrators, deaf teachers, deaf parents, deaf children)

But - no where in this thread I said its better to send kids off to a deaf school. I said its better to cater the deaf kids learning by using their strengths. And in this research it simply says visual strength.

I'll sign this post off with one more paragraph about a deaf school :D :D
The school I went to is undergoing a $11M renovation for the main school building. This renovation includes turning EVERY room into a visual learning space. High end technologies including smartboards in every single class room. That in itself will make education much more interesting and accessible for the deaf. Times are changing :)
 
I hate smartboard. It's a dumboard
 
posts from hell said:
Always the pessimist are you?
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just pragmatic. we do have smartboard and it's troublesome.

whiteboard + markers = simple.... just that you gotta deal w/ toxic odor and dust. :cool2:
 
Not all deaf schools advocate the use of ASL. Make sure you do your research before you put your child in one.

Not all deaf schools use the state curriculum, either. I've worked in one school that used a modified curriculum, and in some grades, none at all. This is really BAD. There's no way I would ever send my own child there.
 
With all respect to Marschark, what he is figuring out with years of hard labor and as an editor of an academic journal of deaf education, is exactly the same thing deaf people have been saying for two centuries.

What's wrong with this picture?
 
Smartboards, when used right, can be really good for deaf kids. You can manipulate words on the board to make sentences. You can do matching vocabulary games. You can do interactive educational games. Link the internet with your fingertip as soon as you start talking about a topic. The whole world is right there, on a Smartboard.

This year I don't have one in my classroom, and I'm lost.
 
flip said:
With all respect to Marschark, what he is figuring out with years of hard labor and as an editor of an academic journal of deaf education, is exactly the same thing deaf people have been saying for two centuries.

What's wrong with this picture?
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Nothing. Just the scientific progress. They also spent oodles of money to find out what was in ketchup decades after it was introduced.

Or did you want me to point out something else? Hearing people manipulating things to their preferences perhaps?
 
deafbajagal said:
Smartboards, when used right, can be really good for deaf kids. You can manipulate words on the board to make sentences. You can do matching vocabulary games. You can do interactive educational games. Link the internet with your fingertip as soon as you start talking about a topic. The whole world is right there, on a Smartboard.

This year I don't have one in my classroom, and I'm lost.
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Would be awesome to see how physics equations work out on an interactive interface. That would interject some learning faster than a static whiteboard I would think.
 
Basically, the article is also reminding us that kids who are being mainstreamed often are not getting the modifications, accommodations, and specialized educational programming they need. Most of their IEPs are a big fat joke because often times a deaf education specialist is not involved to make sure that they are getting the assessments and services they need.
 
posts from hell said:
Would be awesome to see how physics equations work out on an interactive interface. That would interject some learning faster than a static whiteboard I would think.
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Last year, the physics teacher blew me away with her lessons on the Smartboard. VERY creative stuff. I was like :shock:!
 
deafbajagal said:
Basically, the article is also reminding us that kids who are being mainstreamed often are not getting the modifications, accommodations, and specialized educational programming they need. Most of their IEPs are a big fat joke because often times a deaf educations specialist is not involved to make sure that they are getting the assessments and services they need.
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Yup. Many parents do not know this too. I felt it was worthy of posting.
If you don't know what is the best for your child... All IEPs and teaching methods will be of a futile attempts.
 
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