'blind' Man Caught Driving Committed Disability Fraud

I know this happens every day .. but this absolutely enrages me.
 
This is what happens when you have people with probably a high school diploma and not a degree in medicine doing the background checks of people applying for Social Security disability. The same thing goes on with cops and firefighters when they apply for disability retirements. The boards doing the investigations and approvals of the disability retirements are many times done by other cops and firefighters and there is no medical professionals on the board or anywhere in sight.
 
seb said:
This is what happens when you have people with probably a high school diploma and not a degree in medicine doing the background checks of people applying for Social Security disability. The same thing goes on with cops and firefighters when they apply for disability retirements. The boards doing the investigations and approvals of the disability retirements are many times done by other cops and firefighters and there is no medical professionals on the board or anywhere in sight.
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When I applied for my SSA disability because of my Parkinson's Disease, they sent me to a doctor for the screening plus requested my VA medical records. I had to fill out a stack of paperwork, too, detailing my daily life. It was a very discouraging process.
 
seb said:
This is what happens when you have people with probably a high school diploma and not a degree in medicine doing the background checks of people applying for Social Security disability. The same thing goes on with cops and firefighters when they apply for disability retirements. The boards doing the investigations and approvals of the disability retirements are many times done by other cops and firefighters and there is no medical professionals on the board or anywhere in sight.
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Do you have concrete evidence of this?

While I was quite surprised that I was approved (for deafness- don't recall if my newer vision dx was a part of it), I can't imagine that there would be 'people with high school diplomas' actually doing the deciding. Likely the guy falsified something to say he was blind and likely (depending on state)the SSA physician is overwhelmed (like the SSA workers) with claims. Blindness and deafness are two visible disabilities while with Reba they want more info I am guessing because it's a disease/disorder. Others they want more proof if it's something that is not easily diagnosed (like depression).

Blindness isn't the only thing to be faked...; I knew a guy who faked his mild hearing loss to be profound when testing at Gallaudet's audiology in order to get into Gallaudet.
 
there will always be people who play the system
any system
for personal gain, regardless of what it does to others or costs.

its certainly nothign new, wont be going away anytime soon
there will always be peopele like that

as for who decides.
that's a good question
i was a witness to a friend from Deafie school, who was also born legally blind. he was on odsp (ontario disability support programme) for 22 years.
he left the province to visits family for 3 months.
he even told his worker to make sure no legal plms would catch him. he even asked his worker if he could go. the answer was yes, so he left.

came back went to his worker and was told he no longer qualifies for odsb and that he needed to begin the process all over again which took over three years. in which time he lost his case again and again. appealing it so on so forth. no one in the gov could answer how he was on the system for 22 years then all the sudden is deemed non disabled due to leaving the Provence. (which your allowed to do anyway..) but it didnt matter. he gets the tribunal to look at it the final arbiter of the nameless faceleess bureaucrats who decide these things... he had a laywer. doctors. adiologist, the works. a terp.
the gov had one lady the rest were just in some wee box in the middle of the table which they could hear audio , it wasnt even video conferenced. during the tribunal the women present interrupted the terp and said "your clients not deaf he can talk"
to which the discussion deteriorated. turned out leaving the province to visits family gets you kicked off even if your a grandfather case, (been int he system for over 20 years)but leaving for work wont...(yes i know..i know...but such is the rules), he even did it the honest way told them first even asked for permision. if he would of just left and came back they would of been non the wiser, but he didnt want to break the law...(yawn)
and suffered for it.

he lost the case. and was told to get a job. having never worked before, no education (deafie school drop out). age 50 next...


ive also known literally hundreds of people on odsp for addiction. some getting 23 hundred a month. due to the illness.
which is a high priority illness for getting accepted into disability.

so when faced with a system such as the above...
i do question the education level of those making the decisions...
 
Lau2046 said:
It happens every day....imagine what the statistics are like for Welfare fraud....

Laura
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My situation isn't.

I have Usher Syndrome Type I (CDH23) and I drove for 10 years without major incidents. I didn't know about most of my peripheral visions are gone until last year when I took peripheral vision test. After Usher Syndrome confirmed in lab on 5/25 so my genetic specialist told me to stop driving at all until there is cure or wait for driveless vehicles to be available. It is frustrating me very much about unable to drive.

Usher Syndrome Type I is automatic approval for SSDI without going to court, also you cannot commit fraud by having Usher Syndrome because they require retina imaging to show that your retina is deteriorating with black and gray (damaged cells), also visual field test and ERG result too.
 
Reba said:
When I applied for my SSA disability because of my Parkinson's Disease, they sent me to a doctor for the screening plus requested my VA medical records. I had to fill out a stack of paperwork, too, detailing my daily life. It was a very discouraging process.
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I can imagine that - many people have same problem.

I noticed that PD isn't on list and it means you may have going to court or wait longer.
https://www.ssa.gov/compassionateallowances/conditions.htm#P

Please email or call your representative to get SSA to update the conditions.
 
Foxrac said:
My situation isn't.

I have Usher Syndrome Type I (CDH23) and I drove for 10 years without major incidents. I didn't know about most of my peripheral visions are gone until last year when I took peripheral vision test. After Usher Syndrome confirmed in lab on 5/25 so my genetic specialist told me to stop driving at all until there is cure or wait for driveless vehicles to be available. It is frustrating me very much about unable to drive.

Usher Syndrome Type I is automatic approval for SSDI without going to court, also you cannot commit fraud by having Usher Syndrome because they require retina imaging to show that your retina is deteriorating with black and gray (damaged cells), also visual field test and ERG result too.
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What if you were turned down for disability while a person who was not blind but claimed they were got disability?
 
Steinhauer said:
What if you were turned down for disability while a person who was not blind but claimed they were got disability?
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It will not affect my status, but it will only affect SS Trust. If there are more people on SSDI so SS Trust could be run out earlier.

They cannot deny my case because my condition is met under CAL (See #13) conditions that is necessary for automatic approval, also genetic testing result is sufficient, or visual field test, retina imaging and ERG result.

It will be doctor's fault that overstated on medical condition to make patients look disabled and eligible for SSDI, also doctor offices could be fined by CMS if they catch it, also patients may get charged with fraud.
 
DeafDucky said:
Do you have concrete evidence of this?

While I was quite surprised that I was approved (for deafness- don't recall if my newer vision dx was a part of it), I can't imagine that there would be 'people with high school diplomas' actually doing the deciding. Likely the guy falsified something to say he was blind and likely (depending on state)the SSA physician is overwhelmed (like the SSA workers) with claims. Blindness and deafness are two visible disabilities while with Reba they want more info I am guessing because it's a disease/disorder. Others they want more proof if it's something that is not easily diagnosed (like depression).

Blindness isn't the only thing to be faked...; I knew a guy who faked his mild hearing loss to be profound when testing at Gallaudet's audiology in order to get into Gallaudet.
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I'm speaking for retirements from California police and fire departments where almost 50% go out on a disability pension and get their retirement income tax free and then many go on to work at other police or fire departments doing the same job while earning their regular pay along with their tax free disability pension for the job that they were supposedly to disabled to perform. I have relatives who live in Oregon, Washington and New York and they have told me that the same thing goes on there also, but this is basically hear say on my part. The system is largely broke, but good luck on fixing it. The one thing that differs between SS disability and a public sector one is the public sector one is more lucrative and in many places you can go back to work doing the same job you were doing and still receive the disability pension.
 
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