Ah, the USA needs this.

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    Jiro If You Know What I Mean Premium Member

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    but... that goes against the American Dream.... the melting pot country
     
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    I agree.

    Its things like "English is our main language, deal with it" that doesn't exist here...

    What happens if we got enough illegals in here and they all voted for a dude that only speaked spanish and won?

    OFFFF course that wont happen becuz of the media but, think about it..
     
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    wouldn't worry about that since illegals can't vote :)
     
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    IMMIGRANTS, NOT LOCALS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. We are tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture and what they might do on the excuse of retaliation. Since the conquest and rape, island by island, of Oceania, we have experienced a surge in fear that you would one day come here.

    This culture has been developed over FOUR HUNDRED CENTURIES of struggles, trials and develpments by millions of men and women who have sought peaceful lives.

    We speak many languages, not just English, so if you want local knowledge, learn the local language!

    Most of us believe in the Earth, because it is the Earth which has nurtured and sustained us, and sometimes chastened us if we did not respect it. This is not documented, because ours is a living nation whose valued are passed by word of mouth, parent to child, along with milk and lullabies, we do not hand our culture to the keeping of the ones who can write. It is certainly appropriate to venerate the Earth that is beyond the walls of your schools. If the Earth offends you, then we suggest you consider staying on your boats until you have had time to think better of it. Because the Earth is all of our culture.

    We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us and the Earth.

    This is OUR NATION upon the EARTH's LAND, it is OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our languages, our values, our refusal to exploit the earth at any cost, before you begin to slaughter us, we highly encourage you take advantage of an opportunity you must feel our forefathers missed, and LEAVE.

    If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. We didn't invite you here. You pressed on and on until you came here. So accept the nation upon the land you found.
     
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    Last I heard, illegals can't vote.
     
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    Yet many do..... :hmm:

    Even cartoon characters vote
     
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    No, that reinforces the melting pot philosophy. As new immigrants (ingredients) arrive (are added to the melting pot), their uniqueness (flavor) is blended into the existing culture (stew). They add spice to the stew but they don't stand out of or take over the stew. The stew maintains its basic character with all the new ingredients blended in.
     
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    If they are illegal, then they aren't allowed to vote.
     
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    But were they legal American cartoon characters? :giggle:
     
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    that's not exactly how it works. The "‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It." attitude reeks of ethnocentrism especially Caucasian.

    in America - every immigrant's "ingredient" is added to the melting pot. That's why English is not an official language in here.
     
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    But whose melting pot must the immigrants adhere to? The Native Americans or the English settlers? :hmm:
     
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    English is the de facto language of the United States, even if isn't a statute.

    Melting pot of language means that English is the base and the immigrants add seasonings. Our business and government documents, for example, should be in English. Our daily conversations should be in English, seasoned with words and phrases from other languages but still English.

    Also, it doesn't mean that people can't be bi- or multi-lingual, as long as one of those languages is English.
     
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    language is least of the issue. the biggest issue here is the multi-cultures.

    This is what this person is saying -
    Apparently - one can get a gist that this person wants Australia to be English-only, Christian-only... and as for immigrants - "leave it at your own house."

    Do we want that kind of attitude for America?
     
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    btw.... it's more like English and Spanish are the de facto languages of the United States... :dunno:
     
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    Neither. Until a federal government and borders were established, there was no United States, no melting pot. When that was done, the majority language in use for government and commerce was American English. That became the "pot." As more people immigrated to the United States, they learned English and added flavorings of their native tongues.
     
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    It might seem like that in some areas but it definitely is not true throughout the USA.

    If Spanish-speaking people move to the United States for permanent residence, then they should learn English just like the Germans, Russians, Poles, Chinese, Portuguese, etc., did before them.
     
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    "some areas" outnumbers "throughout the USA" by miles. that's why you see spanish translation pretty much wherever you go.
     
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    that is the American way.... which is opposite of this Australian's agenda
     
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    English speaking, yes.

    I didn't see anything that said immigrants had to convert to Christianity. The writer said that immigrants coming to a nation where Christianity is widespread shouldn't expect all signs of Christianity to be hidden or removed for them.
     
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