Memphis Teen Shot in Behind Over Sagging Pants

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Police say Memphis man shoots 17-year-old in buttocks during argument over sagging pants

Police say a 45-year-old Memphis man angry over two teens' sagging pants shot one in the buttocks during an argument. He faces aggravated assault charges.

The boys were walking through a southeast Memphis neighborhood when Kenneth E. Bonds yelled at them to pull up their pants, according to an arrest document.

Police Sgt. Ron Perry said the teens refused and the three began arguing in the street. Bonds then brandished a semi-automatic pistol and threatened to shoot the teens.

Perry said Bonds fired several shots and hit one of the teens as the pair ran away. The teen's wound wasn't critical. The other wasn't injured in the Sept. 25 shooting first reported by The Commercial Appeal in Memphis.

A court clerk says it's not clear if Bonds had a lawyer.
Memphis Teen Shot in Behind Over Sagging Pants - ABC News
 
45 years old man who shot at 17 years old boy is just idiot and he should ignore them if he don't like it, stop look at their sagging.

Sagging is happens in anywhere, there is alot more in near city that where I live.
 
Wow! So now people shoot others over the way they dress. :hmm:
 
"Aggravated Assault"?

Um, that should be attempted murder, or in the least assault with a deadly weapon. Sheesh. I don't like sagging pants, but shooting someone over it? Good grief!
 
TheWriteAlex said:
"Aggravated Assault"?

Um, that should be attempted murder, or in the least assault with a deadly weapon. Sheesh. I don't like sagging pants, but shooting someone over it? Good grief!
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His action doesn't meet the legal definition of Attempted Murder.

"Aggravated Assault" is same as "Assault With a Deadly Weapon". Some states worded it differently or have different types in assault category but both charges are same thing.

If I read the Tennessee law correctly - his crime is Aggravated Assault Class C felony that is punishable by 3-15 years.

Aggravated Assault

Aggravated assault is a more serious offense than simple assault. If you commit an assault on a person and:

It results in serious bodily injury; or
Is committed with the use of a deadly weapon
The deadly weapon does not have to be physically used against the victim but merely displayed.
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Jiro said:
His action doesn't meet the legal definition of Attempted Murder.
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We know very little about the circumstances. Was there a threat involved? Do these individuals have prior contact? Etc. Etc. Even though we're both being armchair lawyers here, let's consider the circumstances a little more before jumping to an absolute. Mmmkay?

"Aggravated Assault" is same as "Assault With a Deadly Weapon". Some states worded it differently or have different types in assault category but both charges are same thing.

If I read the Tennessee law correctly - his crime is Aggravated Assault Class C felony that is punishable by 3-15 years.
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Pretty soft punishment for someone firing a weapon into the backside of a person in retreat, dontcha think? To me, that indicates an intent to kill. If this happened in California or other states with strict gun control laws, you can bet this would be attempted 3rd degree murder, as it should be.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
We know very little about the circumstances. Was there a threat involved? Do these individuals have prior contact? Etc. Etc. Even though we're both being armchair lawyers here, let's consider the circumstances a little more before jumping to an absolute. Mmmkay?



Pretty soft punishment for someone firing a weapon into the backside of a person in retreat, dontcha think? To me, that indicates an intent to kill. If this happened in California or other states with strict gun control laws, you can bet this would be attempted 3rd degree murder, as it should be.
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I am casting my vote for TWA to be the next attorney general.
 
rockdrummer said:
I am casting my vote for TWA to be the next attorney general.
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My platform will be legalizing marijuana...


Wait, what are we talking about again?


Hey, where are my pants?


Mmmm, doughnuts.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
We know very little about the circumstances. Was there a threat involved? Do these individuals have prior contact? Etc. Etc. Even though we're both being armchair lawyers here, let's consider the circumstances a little more before jumping to an absolute. Mmmkay?
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Anybody with reasonable intelligence knows that murder typically means unlawful killing with "malice aforethought". In layman's term - you PLANNED to kill a specific target. That's what makes it different from manslaughter. Now this guy is being charged with Aggravated Assault so I'm pretty sure prosecutor, cops, court, whoever knows enough to charge him with Aggravated Assault. mmmkay?

TheWriteAlex said:
Pretty soft punishment for someone firing a weapon into the backside of a person in retreat, dontcha think? To me, that indicates an intent to kill. If this happened in California or other states with strict gun control laws, you can bet this would be attempted 3rd degree murder, as it should be.
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Now remember - this happened in Tennessee. Its criminal statute regarding this incident is different from California. But let's face it - California, New York, and New Jersey laws do not make sense anyway :)
 
Jiro said:
Anybody with reasonable intelligence knows that murder typically means unlawful killing with "malice aforethought". In layman's term - you PLANNED to kill a specific target. That's what makes it different from manslaughter. Now this guy is being charged with Aggravated Assault so I'm pretty sure prosecutor, cops, court, whoever knows enough to charge him with Aggravated Assault. mmmkay?
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Murder does not have to be premeditated for it to be murder. Typically, if it is premeditated it is 1st degree. The big difference between manslaughter and murder is INTENT TO KILL. Manslaughter is usually considered as little more than an accident and people get off lightly. The way I see it, this man was deliberately firing into the backside of these teenagers as they were running away. He wanted to do more than just scare them; he wanted to kill them. Even if the intent happened in the moment, it's still attempted murder, man.


Now remember - this happened in Tennessee. Its criminal statute regarding this incident is different from California. But let's face it - California, New York, and New Jersey laws do not make sense anyway :)
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No laws make sense, man. That's why you should vote for me. Free drugs for everyone! :smoking:
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Murder does not have to be premeditated for it to be murder. Typically, if it is premeditated it is 1st degree. The big difference between manslaughter and murder is INTENT TO KILL. Manslaughter is usually considered as little more than an accident and people get off lightly. The way I see it, this man was deliberately firing into the backside of these teenagers as they were running away. He wanted to do more than just scare them; he wanted to kill them. Even if the intent happened in the moment, it's still attempted murder, man.
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Being an armchair lawyer, I see? Simply refer to Tennessee's criminal code. His action points to Aggravated Assault.

TheWriteAlex said:
No laws make sense, man. That's why you should vote for me. Free drugs for everyone! :smoking:
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Looking at your post - it's even worse. That's why you should vote for me. Amendment 2 for everyone! :rifle:
 
oh man...perhaps best to keep my cleavage hidden from now and on? :hmm: :Ohno:

worse if you get shot in chest!
 
Aezin said:
Wow! So now people shoot others over the way they dress. :hmm:
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I don't care much for sagging pants but I think shooting other people for wearing sagging pants is going a tad far. :P
 
freckles said:
oh man...perhaps best to keep my cleavage hidden from now and on? :hmm: :Ohno:
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good gracious! that's even worse than being forced to pay for child support :eek3:
 
deafskeptic said:
I don't care much for sagging pants but I think shooting other people for wearing sagging pants is going a tad far. :P
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well - this is what happens. He didn't SHOOT them for wearing sagging pants. He shot OUT of anger. This is exactly same as road rage. He just snapped during a heated argument. According to article - he got into argument with 2 teens. He brandished his gun and threatened to shoot them.

I wouldn't be surprised he got "trolled" into shooting at them for real, looking at how youths' attitudes are.
 
Jiro said:
well - this is what happens. He didn't SHOOT them for wearing sagging pants. He shot OUT of anger. This is exactly same as road rage. He just snapped during a heated argument. According to article - he got into argument with 2 teens. He brandished his gun and threatened to shoot them.

I wouldn't be surprised he got "trolled" into shooting at them for real, looking at how youths' attitudes are.
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What made him angry?
 
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