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Old 11-03-2009, 12:26 AM   #61 (permalink)
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No, it's called common sense.
so why you want to close your curtains if you don't walk around naked in your house at 5:30am?
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:32 AM   #62 (permalink)
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The people who saw him naked... weren't they trespassing on private property?

The article says that they cut through on his front yard.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:33 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Walking thru a neighborhood, looking at the gardens and nice houses, while staying aware of one's surroundings, is not the same as peering into private windows.

When we sit on our front porch in our rocking chairs, we greet and chat to our neighbors as they walk by. We don't expect to see any of them walking down the street with eyes straight ahead like military marchers. People walk by glancing around so they can say "hi" to their neighbors. We greet the mailman, meter reader, UPS and FEDEX deliverers, and anyone passing by.

It's normal to look around in a friendly way. As neighbors, we also look out for each other. It's not like strangers staring into windows.
Agreed. I look around when I am out walking my dog, partly because I don't hear well. It keeps me aware of my surroundings. Also, I am a curious person. I like to see how people do things with their homes, such as decorations, plants and landscaping, etc. It gives me ideas for my home to see the things that are done. I don't look inside the window intentionally. However, people need to visualize walking in the dark. Someone has their window curtains open, and the lights are on. How can people say that I am supposed to stare at the dark street? It is human nature to look at the lighted window, especially if there is movement.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:35 AM   #64 (permalink)
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so why you want to close your curtains if you don't walk naked in your house at 5:30am?
I like privacy. I don't have any desire to display what I'm doing to other people.

I do take showers and get dressed for work at 5:30 a.m., and prefer not to show off for the person delivering my newspaper, or the kids waiting for the school bus.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:37 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I like privacy. I don't have any desire to display what I'm doing to other people.

I do take showers and get dressed for work at 5:30 a.m., and prefer not to show off for the person delivering my newspaper, or the kids waiting for the school bus.
he was naked in his kitchen, brewing some coffee and that's where they saw him. I doubt you walked around naked in your kitchen so that's the issue.

Closing your curtain in your own bedroom makes sense cuz there's a lot of privacy thing going on in there but living room? kitchen? c'mon...... it was just wrong place at the wrong time.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:42 AM   #66 (permalink)
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he was naked in his kitchen, brewing some coffee and that's where they saw him. I doubt you walked around naked in your kitchen so that's the issue.

Closing your curtain in your own bedroom makes sense cuz there's a lot of privacy thing going on in there but living room? kitchen? c'mon...... it was just wrong place at the wrong time.
We spend time in our living room and kitchen at night, so of course we close the curtains at night.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:47 AM   #67 (permalink)
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We spend time in our living room and kitchen at night, so of course we close the curtains at night.
but still not naked. lot of people here at high-rise in NYC do not have curtains or they rarely close the curtains. we can pretty much see the activity going on in there (not always but still)

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but still not naked. lot of people here at high-rise in NYC do not have curtains or they rarely close the curtains. we can pretty much see the activity going on in there (not always but still)
High rise is still not sidewalk level. People aren't walking past the upper levels of a high rise. They aren't using binoculars.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:34 AM   #69 (permalink)
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High rise is still not sidewalk level. People aren't walking past the upper levels of a high rise. They aren't using binoculars.
We can't be too sure about that.
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Why am I reminded about the naked neighbour besides Monica's apartment in the TV show Friends?
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:53 AM   #71 (permalink)
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High rise is still not sidewalk level. People aren't walking past the upper levels of a high rise. They aren't using binoculars.
it's quite visible with naked eyes since high-rise are only one block apart. Some condos are shaped like C so the people living inside C-shape can see each other easily as well. Most do not close their shades or have shades. I just came back from expensive high-rise condo in mid-town Manhattan owned by a doctor. There's not a single shade in his place. When I looked out, I see plenty of New Yorkers resting in their humble abodes, doing whatever they're doing. I guess to each their own.......

using binocular to look.... well that would be "Peeping Tom" which is a criminal offense.
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Why am I reminded about the naked neighbour besides Monica's apartment in the TV show Friends?
that was a fun episode
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:16 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Why didn't he close his curtains the night before he went to bed? We close our window coverings at sunset.
I'm not sure that just because you close your curtains at night that everyone else in the world should do the same.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:21 AM   #74 (permalink)
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plus - some people do not like to close curtain at night because of fear of dark. I like to sleep with curtain off... evening light (moon)... so pretty.
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I sleep with the curtains open because I prefer natural sunrise to wake me up; for some reason, flashing lights doesn't wake me up and oftentimes, my clock get unplugged because of some incident such as me trashing around at night, or I forget to put the ferret away and he pulled it out of the wall.

Of course, I am not usually naked when I am sleeping, and I am in a 4th floor apartment. When I used to live in a streetlevel place, I used to sleep in the room facing the backyard because I didn't want people peering into the house, and the one closest to the backyard was private. Reason why? It was a shady area with high crime.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:10 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Fine. If you don't close the curtains, expect that people can see you. If you don't want privacy, then don't complain if someone reports you standing naked in front of your window in public view.
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Fine. If you don't close the curtains, expect that people can see you. If you don't want privacy, then don't complain if someone reports you standing naked in front of your window in public view.
complain that they're trespassing, then.
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complain that they're trespassing, then.
They aren't trespassing if they can see you from the street.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:55 AM   #79 (permalink)
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They aren't trespassing if they can see you from the street.
No... but the point is it was 5:30 in the morning... IF he wanted to be seen by the public... He should have chose a better time of day to do it...

"He wanted to be seen by the public"

Right... at 5:30am...
Use that argument if it was Noon or something... not 5 fricken' 30 am.
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It's wrong to trespass his property. That woman knows better NOT to cross on his property if, he was naked in his house. Mind her own business and walk away, leavin' him some privacy since this was HIS house, not hers. It doesn't make sense for someone to call the cops on him just for bein' naked in HIS house. I think it is ridiculous.

Maybe, that man should build his own fence around his yard and put up a sign that says, " Do NOT trespassin'." How about that ?
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It's wrong to trespass his property. That woman knows better NOT to cross on his property if, he was naked in his house. Mind her own business and walk away, leavin' him some privacy since this was HIS house, not hers. It doesn't make sense for someone to call the cops on him just for bein' naked in HIS house. I think it is ridiculous.

Maybe, that man should build his own fence around his yard and put up a sign that says, " Do NOT trespassin'." How about that ?
So true

If it was a man, and the woman was getting coffee... HE would be the one arrested for Peeping...

If he gets convicted, this invites pervs from all over to start voyeurism and claim... the pervert to be the victim.
"No officer, I was just walking around her house and I happened to be in her back yard... she changed right in front of me... So I had to call the cops"

I want to be the judge so bad in this case... I would love to have a few questions answered?

What were you doing in his yard?
Why were you looking in his house?
You honestly think he WANTED to be seen by the public at 5:30am?

Talk about a waste of courts time.
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No... but the point is it was 5:30 in the morning... IF he wanted to be seen by the public... He should have chose a better time of day to do it...

"He wanted to be seen by the public"

Right... at 5:30am...
Use that argument if it was Noon or something... not 5 fricken' 30 am.
I guess you're not an early bird.

There are plenty of people out and about at 5:30 a.m.
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No... but the point is it was 5:30 in the morning... IF he wanted to be seen by the public... He should have chose a better time of day to do it...

"He wanted to be seen by the public"

Right... at 5:30am...
Use that argument if it was Noon or something... not 5 fricken' 30 am.
lol there's usually nobody around at noon in suburb. they're at work!
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:14 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I guess you're not an early bird.

There are plenty of people out and about at 5:30 a.m.
early bird or not, tell me if the rolls were reversed that the guy would not have been thrown in jail or fined for peeping?
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So true

If it was a man, and the woman was getting coffee... HE would be the one arrested for Peeping...

If he gets convicted, this invites pervs from all over to start voyeurism and claim... the pervert to be the victim.
"No officer, I was just walking around her house and I happened to be in her back yard... she changed right in front of me... So I had to call the cops"

I want to be the judge so bad in this case... I would love to have a few questions answered?

What were you doing in his yard?
Why were you looking in his house?
You honestly think he WANTED to be seen by the public at 5:30am?

Talk about a waste of courts time.
Yea, talkin' about "common sense" some people don't have any nowdays. I am more concerned about "feelings" they care about rather than "rights to privacy". I care about the "rights to privacy" than "feelings". Talkin' about "respect" ~ that woman don't have any respect to HIS "rights to privacy".
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early bird or not, tell me if the rolls were reversed that the guy would not have been thrown in jail or fined for peeping?
"A peeping Tom a person who stealthily peeks into windows, other openings with the purpose of getting a sexual thrill from seeing women or girls undressed or couples making love. It is a slang term for a voyeur. Being a peeping tom is treated as a crime based on sexual deviancy, according to state laws, which vary by state. The victim of a peeping Tom can bring a lawsuit for invasion of privacy."
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It would depend if the facts fit the situation as per that state's laws. I don't know what those would be.

I'm guessing that a peeping Tom wouldn't normally take his child with him, nor would he report his own activity to the police.
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Yea, talkin' about "common sense" some people don't have any nowdays. I am more concerned about "feelings" they care about rather than "rights to privacy". I care about the "rights to privacy" than "feelings". Talkin' about "respect" ~ that woman don't have any respect to HIS "rights to privacy".
what about this? what if the man knew you will be up this early so he woke up early too and walked naked in his own kitchen so that you can see him from your window.

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"A peeping Tom a person who stealthily peeks into windows, other openings with the purpose of getting a sexual thrill from seeing women or girls undressed or couples making love. It is a slang term for a voyeur. Being a peeping tom is treated as a crime based on sexual deviancy, according to state laws, which vary by state. The victim of a peeping Tom can bring a lawsuit for invasion of privacy."
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It would depend if the facts fit the situation as per that state's laws. I don't know what those would be.

I'm guessing that a peeping Tom wouldn't normally take his child with him, nor would he report his own activity to the police.
Yeah....it just seems some people don't know where to draw the line when it comes to common decency. I admit, several times I've forgotten to close my blinds when getting ready for bed, but it was accidental....If I was purposely undressing or walking around in the nude, no matter what time it was, it's like I was asking for the whole neighborhood to take a look! There are nude beaches, why not use those? And nudist camps too.....
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Yeah....it just seems some people don't know where to draw the line when it comes to common decency. I admit, several times I've forgotten to close my blinds when getting ready for bed, but it was accidental....If I was purposely undressing or walking around in the nude, no matter what time it was, it's like I was asking for the whole neighborhood to take a look! There are nude beaches, why not use those? And nudist camps too.....
majority of people at nudist camps and nude beaches are wrinkly prunes
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majority of people at nudist camps and nude beaches are wrinkly prunes
Don't you have a restraining order against you for stalking the prunes at the nudist camps?
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