Double toddler day! Angry 4-year old shot babysitter for stepping on his foot

naisho · 01-08-2009, 02:25 PM

Just heard this on the radio, and googled up a link.

As if the 6 year old car hijacker wasn't enough today..

CityNews: Angry 4-Yr.-Old Shot Babysitter For Stepping On His Foot: Cops

So who's at fault here?

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Originally Posted by The news, think twice before believing everything!

Angry 4-Yr.-Old Shot Babysitter For Stepping On His Foot: Cops
Tuesday January 6, 2009
CityNews.ca Staff

Just when you thought you'd heard everything comes an incident that shows our violent society can reach new lows you may not have expected.

Police in Jackson, Ohio, a small town near Columbus, are trying to figure out what to do with a 4-year-old boy accused of shooting his babysitter.

The child apparently became incensed on Sunday when 18-year-old Nathan Beavers, who was looking after him, accidentally stepped on his foot. Cops say the enraged youngster ran to a nearby closet, grabbed a gun that was stored inside of it, and fired it at his temporary guardian.

The victim suffered wounds to his arm and side and was treated in hospital, but his injuries were thankfully minor. Another teen was also slightly hurt.

Beavers was watching the child at the mobile home of the boy's grandmother when the incident occurred. Several other teens and a few additional kids were also present.

Authorities have revealed that when the babysitter stepped on his foot, the child boldly announced he was going to go get a gun. Everyone figured he would come back with a toy.

Instead, he found the real thing, even retrieving a shell from a drawer and loading the weapon as he marched back into the room where the others were gathered.

The child is now in the custody of his parents. His father claims his son had seen others shoot a gun before, but he had no idea that the youngster knew how to load and fire the weapon. He maintains the little boy simply thought it was a toy and calls the incident an "accident."

Cops are now investigating, but agree the alleged culprit may be too young to be charged. His father has arranged from his son to receive counselling instead.

Bottesini · 01-08-2009, 02:28 PM

I saw that on Yahoo about the four year old.

I don't think counseling will help since he is really too young to understand what he did.

Jiro · 01-08-2009, 02:29 PM

I think that's kind of close to Jillio's hometown. I'm deeply disturbed and appalled not because the child shot the babysitter.... but at incredibly irresponsible father as the gun owner. we've heard enough of accidental shootings by children at home.

PLEASE USE THE TRIGGER LOCK OR GUN SAFE IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN AT YOUR HOME, FOR F**K SAKE!

WhisperHorse · 01-08-2009, 02:33 PM

Oh my... That's all what I could say for now.

jillio · 01-08-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Just heard this on the radio, and googled up a link.

As if the 6 year old car hijacker wasn't enough today..

CityNews: Angry 4-Yr.-Old Shot Babysitter For Stepping On His Foot: Cops

So who's at fault here?

Who leaves a loaded weapon in reach of a 4 year old? And who conveys the message that it is acceptable to shoot someone who offends you? Answer those questions and you will have the answer to who is responsible.

jillio · 01-08-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I think that's kind of close to Jillio's hometown. I'm deeply disturbed and appalled not because the child shot the babysitter.... but at incredibly irresponsible father as the gun owner. we've heard enough of accidental shootings by children at home.

PLEASE USE THE TRIGGER LOCK OR GUN SAFE IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN AT YOUR HOME, FOR F**K SAKE!

Exactly. And yes, it is close. About 30 miles away.

naisho · 01-08-2009, 02:37 PM

One amazing thing that I want to add that isn't written in the article, but stated in the radio was:
The toddler loaded up a HUNTING RIFLE for this feat, it wasn't your simple handgun bang bang.

Absolutely.. incredible in a sense.

Mrs Bucket · 01-08-2009, 02:38 PM

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His father claims his son had seen others shoot a gun before, but he had no idea that the youngster knew how to load and fire the weapon. He maintains the little boy simply thought it was a toy and calls the incident an "accident."

What parent allows their child to see other people shoot guns at a young age?

This was no accident. A hobbyist that shoot guns at the range with their children and the legal age is sixteen, would know to train their children the proper use of a gun.

Daredevel7 · 01-08-2009, 02:41 PM

Are little kids getting smarter or something?! He actually loaded it!

I feel like a horror movie is about to happen... our children are taking over the world.

Jiro · 01-08-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

What parent allows their child to see other people shoot guns at a young age?

This was no accident. A hobbyist that shoot guns at the range with their children and the legal age is sixteen, would know to train their children the proper use of a gun.

naturally - kids don't know the consequence of shooting at people... that's what happens when you play too much games like GTA. That's why you must frequently emphasize on gun safety. repeat it every time when handling gun with kid. REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT! and KEEP REPEATING!

jillio · 01-08-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

Are little kids getting smarter or something?! He actually loaded it!

I feel like a horror movie is about to happen... our children are taking over the world.

In the area in which this incident ocurred, it would not surprise me in the least if he had been taught to load it!

Mrs Bucket · 01-08-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

Are little kids getting smarter or something?! He actually loaded it!

I feel like a horror movie is about to happen... our children are taking over the world.

Ok, this is where the parents both need the spankings!

Jiro · 01-08-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

Ok, this is where the parents both need the spankings!

Daredevel7 · 01-08-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs Bucket

Ok, this is where the parents both need the spankings!

They probably would enjoy it and ask for more. Sigh...

Mrs Bucket · 01-08-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

You you you.. come here!

I love you and your smilies!

Daredevel girl.. don't give them ideas!

Hear Again · 01-08-2009, 03:23 PM

why the heck are these parents leaving a gun out in the open where a 4 year old can get at it?

Hear Again · 01-08-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Who leaves a loaded weapon in reach of a 4 year old? And who conveys the message that it is acceptable to shoot someone who offends you? Answer those questions and you will have the answer to who is responsible.

exactly.

naisho · 01-08-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

why the heck are these parents leaving a gun out in the open where a 4 year old can get at it?

Not sure if this is actual fact or not, but the newspaper states that the incident occurred at the child's grandmother's mobile home.

Therefore, it would lead to one of the following possibilities:

- The grandmother has a hunting rifle in her house somewhere, doesn't have it locked up due to laziness, reasons you know why.
- The child didn't get the rifle from her house, but back at his parent's place, if that is closeby (states mobile home area)
- The child took the rifle from someone else.
- Their parents live in with the grandmother, but as stated were not around at this time.

Jiro · 01-08-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

why the heck are these parents leaving a gun out in the open where a 4 year old can get at it?

it was in the closet and the bullets were in the box. Point is - he was able to load it up with ease. I don't know why the parents did not use trigger lock. I hate it when parents just leave the gun high up in the closet or hide it somewhere.... hoping that the kids won't be able to reach it or find it.

Use trigger lock and no such tragedy will ever occur. It's as harmless as toy gun.

Babyblue · 01-08-2009, 03:42 PM

*sigh*

jillio · 01-08-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Not sure if this is actual fact or not, but the newspaper states that the incident occurred at the child's grandmother's mobile home.

Therefore, it would lead to one of the following possibilities:

- The grandmother has a hunting rifle in her house somewhere, doesn't have it locked up due to laziness, reasons you know why.
- The child didn't get the rifle from her house, but back at his parent's place, if that is closeby (states mobile home area)
- The child took the rifle from someone else.
- Their parents live in with the grandmother, but as stated were not around at this time.

Cops say the enraged youngster ran to a nearby closet, grabbed a gun that was stored inside of it, and fired it at his temporary guardian.

Kind of blows all possibilities except the first one out of the water. (Cut and pasted from the OP.)

Mrs Bucket · 01-08-2009, 04:57 PM

Why load a rifle and shoot when he could've easily got his G.I Joe and toss it at his babysitter?!

Where's G.I Joe in all of this... right he's gone & replaced with computer games!

PuyoPiyo · 01-08-2009, 05:00 PM

Wow, crazy..

flyingace · 01-08-2009, 06:08 PM

I guess we can't relax around small children anymore!

shel90 · 01-08-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

Are little kids getting smarter or something?! He actually loaded it!

I feel like a horror movie is about to happen... our children are taking over the world.

I know! I feel the same too...this is very very disturbing cuz he was mad and wanted to hurt the babysitter. How does a 4 year old have the capability to think like that?? My son is 3 years old and I cant imagine him having this way of thinking....scary!!!

Jiro · 01-08-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I know! I feel the same too...this is very very disturbing cuz he was mad and wanted to hurt the babysitter. How does a 4 year old have the capability to think like that?? My son is 3 years old and I cant imagine him having this way of thinking....scary!!!

I don't think he understands the consequence of shooting people. He probably thought it'd be like BB gun with a loud noise. You know how kids are at that age.... they have a "cartoon" sense of reality.

***Jolie77*** · 01-08-2009, 09:32 PM

From the article --

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Authorities have revealed that when the babysitter stepped on his foot, the child boldly announced he was going to go get a gun. Everyone figured he would come back with a toy.

Instead, he found the real thing, even retrieving a shell from a drawer and loading the weapon as he marched back into the room where the others were gathered.

Wow. The child actually boldly announced he was going to get the gun? Really, That just blows my mind because not many kids at that age would know what to do out of anger and to run off to get the real gun.

Here's what I'm thinking -- Since the father stated that the child did see others shoot a gun but not to the point where the gun is loaded. Someone had to teach the kid how to load the gun one way or another.

That's scary.

Steel X · 01-09-2009, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

Are little kids getting smarter or something?! He actually loaded it!

I feel like a horror movie is about to happen... our children are taking over the world.

For a kid like him he must've seen people loading their guns alot or another possiblity is that he was trained to do that.

It is quite surprising for so someone so young as the age of 4, has the ablitiy to load the rifle...obviously it tells me he learned that from someone.

Another thing is that his parents/grandmother obviously suck at hiding the gun, should be COMPLETELY OUT OF REACH from children AT ALL TIMES.

Liebling:-))) · 01-09-2009, 03:27 AM

*shake my head heavy sigh*

Jiro · 01-09-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Steel X

For a kid like him he must've seen people loading their guns alot or another possiblity is that he was trained to do that.

It is quite surprising for so someone so young as the age of 4, has the ablitiy to load the rifle...obviously it tells me he learned that from someone.

Another thing is that his parents/grandmother obviously suck at hiding the gun, should be COMPLETELY OUT OF REACH from children AT ALL TIMES.

His father taught him how to use gun..... maybe

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