Double toddler day! Angry 4-year old shot babysitter for stepping on his foot - Page 2

Steel X · 01-09-2009, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

His father taught him how to use gun..... maybe

If he did...oh boy then he's in serious shit.

Jiro · 01-09-2009, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Steel X

If he did...oh boy then he's in serious shit.

which is PROBABLY why he made a comment to cop - "i didn't know he can do that......"

jillio · 01-09-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolie77

From the article --

Wow. The child actually boldly announced he was going to get the gun? Really, That just blows my mind because not many kids at that age would know what to do out of anger and to run off to get the real gun.

Here's what I'm thinking -- Since the father stated that the child did see others shoot a gun but not to the point where the gun is loaded. Someone had to teach the kid how to load the gun one way or another.

That's scary.

I agree. It is obvious to me that someone taught this child to load the gun, either directly or indirectly. As far as him seeing shooting someone as an answer to being angry....the child learned that somewhere, too. Children learn to react to anger by watching others react to anger. I know from working with children of domestic violence in a counseling situation that they believe beating another person up is a solution when they are angry because they have seen the adults in their lives behaving that way. They have to be taught that hitting is not a solution when you are angry. They also believe that it is acceptable for someone to hit them when the other person is angry because that is what they have seen. They also have to be taught that no one has the right to hit them. They have a right to be angry, but they don't have a right to be violent towards others.

What frightens me, and breaks my heart, is the fact that young children are living in environments that teaches them that violence is an answer. When you see a 4 year old child behaving in such a violent and extreme manner, one does not need to look far to find the reason.

Jiro · 01-09-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I agree. It is obvious to me that someone taught this child to load the gun, either directly or indirectly. As far as him seeing shooting someone as an answer to being angry....the child learned that somewhere, too. Children learn to react to anger by watching others react to anger. I know from working with children of domestic violence in a counseling situation that they believe beating another person up is a solution when they are angry because they have seen the adults in their lives behaving that way. They have to be taught that hitting is not a solution when you are angry. They also believe that it is acceptable for someone to hit them when the other person is angry because that is what they have seen. They also have to be taught that no one has the right to hit them. They have a right to be angry, but they don't have a right to be violent towards others.

What frightens me, and breaks my heart, is the fact that young children are living in environments that teaches them that violence is an answer. When you see a 4 year old child behaving in such a violent and extreme manner, one does not need to look far to find the reason.

I'd believe you. sounds like father slaps mom around and the child learned from it?

I have no mercy for wife hitter.

jillio · 01-09-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I'd believe you. sounds like father slaps mom around and the child learned from it?

I have no mercy for wife hitter.

Exactly. They see it on a daily basis, and believe it is a normal way of life.

Phillips · 01-09-2009, 01:51 PM

o myGawd

***Jolie77*** · 01-09-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I agree. It is obvious to me that someone taught this child to load the gun, either directly or indirectly. As far as him seeing shooting someone as an answer to being angry....the child learned that somewhere, too. Children learn to react to anger by watching others react to anger. I know from working with children of domestic violence in a counseling situation that they believe beating another person up is a solution when they are angry because they have seen the adults in their lives behaving that way. They have to be taught that hitting is not a solution when you are angry. They also believe that it is acceptable for someone to hit them when the other person is angry because that is what they have seen. They also have to be taught that no one has the right to hit them. They have a right to be angry, but they don't have a right to be violent towards others.

What frightens me, and breaks my heart, is the fact that young children are living in environments that teaches them that violence is an answer. When you see a 4 year old child behaving in such a violent and extreme manner, one does not need to look far to find the reason.

Exactly, Children are absorbing everything in their head like a sponge. I believe there is more to the story than what it is telling because there is no way that this child had to know it off the bat without being taught. Now I have to wonder what was their home environment like? It is possible that there's domestic violence ongoing, or the kid has seen it elsewhere; perhaps under the babysitter's care prior to that incident? We don't know.

It also does break my heart too, to see these children living in that kind of atmosphere where violence occurs. Counseling can help them but just exactly how much will the counseling help? The scar is still there, so to speak.

jillio · 01-09-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolie77

Exactly, Children are absorbing everything in their head like a sponge. I believe there is more to the story than what it is telling because there is no way that this child had to know it off the bat without being taught. Now I have to wonder what was their home environment like? It is possible that there's domestic violence ongoing, or the kid has seen it elsewhere; perhaps under the babysitter's care prior to that incident? We don't know.

It also does break my heart too, to see these children living in that kind of atmosphere where violence occurs. Counseling can help them but just exactly how much will the counseling help? The scar is still there, so to speak.

The younger they are when they start into counseling, the better chances that it will counteract the effects of the violence they have witnessed. Also, if the family is in counseling to deal with their own issues and correct the negative things the child is being exposed to, it helps. I know in the kids I work with, it seems to be two steps forward, one step back some days.

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