VamPyroX

Okay... so, we should consider him a man because he has a body of a man? He said he wanted to have surgery to become a man, but decided to keep his female reproductive organs? So, is he truly a man?

What about women who consider themselves men? If they become pregnant, should they be allowed to label themselves as "Pregnant Men"?

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Mizzou

He did not removed his female organs so he is lucky to have it to bear the baby. If he did removed then there is no baby at all.

PuyoPiyo

Actually he doesn't consider himself as man just because he have a man body, he consider himself as man because it is who the way he think he is. Also the only reason why he become pregnant is for to have the baby, that's it. He don't keep his female organ because he think he might be a "Born Man with Pussy", ya know what I mean..

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Jolie_77

Just because he has a "male" body with the reproductive organs, It should still not pass him as a "man". He is still on the fence with this one because he still has BOTH female and male body parts. If he were to have his body as whole for being a male, then therefore, he is still considered to be a male.

Since he/she still has the female organs, It is still considered as a female only he/she has those tweaks that pass off as a male.

deafdyke

Etoile, Agreed. I identify strongly as genderqueer. However, it does seem like a lot of trans people seem to really buy into binaries when it comes to gender. And I gotta say.............if the person is genetically female and has female body parts, then they ARE female. I remember reading that this person just randomly decided in young adulthood that they were male. I can 100% understand a little boy or a little girl feeling uncomfortable with sex roles. You know whatsherface? Stone Butch Blues lady? SHE knew from very early childhood, that she didn't feel like she fit in as a female. One of my friends from college is TS.....he's genetically female, but was raised as a male.

Byrdie714

Curious....could they get themselves pregnant if they have both parts?

Jolie_77

Uhm, I wouldn't know about that but if they were able to, that'd be sort of cloning theirselves, wouldn't it?

PuyoPiyo

Well it won't work out because those pre-transition (before the sexual reassignment surgery) transgenders will want people to refer them the gender they are presented in the sight so they can feel used with being called "he" instead of "she", or "she" instead of "he", but you are right, that man in the article here are still as "female", but processing to be a man. If we still refer them as their biological gender, then they will feel insulted or put down, or quit the process, or even the worst, suicide. It's just that I would prefer to focus on who they think they are, not what they are.

It depends on the hormones therpay, that's all I know.

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VamPyroX

Then it shouldn't be publicly announced as a man being pregnant. It should be more of a transgender being pregnant or a hermaphrodite being pregnant.

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Reba

If you're referring to the Oregon person, she still has a female body and DNA. She has a complete uterus and ovaries. She has a "manly" appearance but everything on the inside of her body is still female.


What male body parts? She hasn't had any surgery for that. She had some hormone treatments for secondary male appearance. That doesn't make her a male.


She never had a male body.


Yep. Born female, and still female.

CCfan

Oh my god! That's impossible for this man get a pregnant?!
I don't believe in a man getting a pregnant, huh?

ADDED AS UPDATED: I never seen FTM using with pregnant!

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CCfan

Yes, they already did it, so now it's now publicity for anyone can
read that how readers/viewers would reacting about it.

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CCfan

Who knows?

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Reba

Not likely, according to this:

"...So, what are we dealing with when we discuss human hermaphrodites? Actually they are more properly called pseudohermaphrodites (which is the term used by biologists) or "Intersexuals" (which is the term that seems to be preferred in the politically correct circles...). If we examine the course of human embryological development we can see that we are all originally equipped with the potential to form both the male and female genitalia ... but we have only one set of gonads. During normal male development, the gonads form into testis, the male based genitalia enlarge and the female based genitalia regress. In female development, the opposite happens, gonads become ovaries, male genitalia regress and female genitalia enlarge. Sexually ambiguous individuals develop in a way that both sets of genitalia enlarge. Notice, that these individuals still only have one set of gonads. These gonads will either be testis or ovaries and that will truly identify the sex of the individual. In some cases, the gonad will itself be ambiguous and share histological characteristics of both testis and ovaries, but in this case it will be able to function as neither. So the individual that develops is not a true hermaphrodite since they lack any functional reproductive organ...."
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