European sperm harder to get in U.S. after ban

Liebling:-))) · 09-25-2007, 04:16 AM

European sperm harder to get in U.S. after ban
Banked supply dwindling after FDA's halt in effort to stop mad cow disease

Updated: 2:36 p.m. ET Sept. 20, 2007

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LONDON - For American parents looking for donor sperm to produce blond, blue-eyed Scandinavian babies, the search just got a little trickier.

In May 2005, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration decided to ban sperm from any European countries with exposure to mad cow disease, effectively striking off donors from Denmark to the United Kingdom. While some sperm banks have had enough frozen stocks to cope with the demand, they are now running low.

"We still have a little bit left, but not much," said Claus Rodgaard, manager of Cryos International, a Danish-based sperm bank with an office in New York.

"We're not here to promote people to have blond, blue-eyed babies, but if those are the kinds of characteristics you're looking for, then Danish sperm is good for that," Rodgaard said. "That's all we have in Denmark."

Scientists say the ban is not justified.

'A silly ban'

"The consensus in the United Kingdom is that this is a silly ban," said Dr. Allan Pacey, an andrology expert at the University of Sheffield and secretary of the British Fertility Society. "There's no evidence to show that mad cow disease can be transmitted in human semen."

The human form of mad cow disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, is mainly transmitted after people eat infected meat. In rare cases, the disease has also been spread by contaminated surgical equipment or in transplants of brain tissue. There has never been a documented case of the Creutzfeldt-Jakob being passed on after a sperm donation.

Pacey said that concerned doctors could always screen potential donors to see if they might be at high-risk for mad cow disease, but that a blanket ban was unnecessary.

Other experts agreed the possibility of sperm transmitting mad cow disease was negligible. "I'd be more worried about genetic diseases," said Dr. Gianpiero Palermo, an associate professor at Cornell University's Center for Reproductive Medicine.

Risk of other diseases
Diseases including HIV/AIDS, hepatitis, or bacterial infections like chlamydia would be far more likely to be spread by sperm donors, doctors said.

Rodgaard said that the FDA has been asked to reconsider their decision, but that they have not had any signs that the ban might soon be lifted. "It's a completely random decision," he said, pointing out that even though Canada has reported mad cow cases, "you are still allowed to import all the tissue you want from Canada."

For the moment, the best option for American parents set on children of European stock may be to actually travel to Europe. "We just have not been able to import any more Scandinavian sperm," Rodgaard said.

Palermo said that the decision has not had a big impact on their patients.

"There's absolutely no difference between American and European sperm," he said. "If you are looking for a specific type of donor, we can find whatever genetic qualities you want in the U.S."

European sperm harder to get in U.S. - Pregnancy - MSNBC.com

Excuse me, I laughing after read those article...

GarnetTigerMom · 09-30-2007, 02:39 PM

Never heard of that. Please send the link for facts information. Thank u.

jillio · 09-30-2007, 02:54 PM

Ype, and if you don't get a blonde blue eyed baby, you just bleach their hair and have permanent colored contacts stitched into their eyes so you get what you want!

Sorry....guess I spend too much time in the CI forums!

Liebling:-))) · 09-30-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetTigerMom

Never heard of that. Please send the link for facts information. Thank u.

I already provided the link in my first thread... European sperm harder to get in U.S. - Pregnancy - MSNBC.com

See the bottom of my thread.

highlands · 09-30-2007, 05:41 PM

weird ..

shel90 · 09-30-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Ype, and if you don't get a blonde blue eyed baby, you just bleach their hair and have permanent colored contacts stitched into their eyes so you get what you want!

Sorry....guess I spend too much time in the CI forums!

My god..what is this world coming to? Hilter and AGBell are back as other people?

Yep, I spend too much time in the CI forums so I am brainwashed with paranoia!

highlands · 09-30-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

My god..what is this world coming to? Hilter and AGBell are back as other people?

Yep, I spend too much time in the CI forums so I am brainwashed with paranoia!

yeppers, you all have been knights of the CI threads

shel90 · 09-30-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by highlands

yeppers, you all have been knights of the CI threads

Yea cuz I work in that field so it is my passion. Deaf education and language access for all deaf children. I cant sit back and say nothing even if it means getting into ridiculous arguments. Oh well...I have the same arguments in real life too with some other people I encounter at my job or just in public. There is just tooo much misinformation about deaf/hoh people.

jillio · 09-30-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by highlands

yeppers, you all have been knights of the CI threads

Yep, but it seems to be necessary.

jillio · 09-30-2007, 06:03 PM

QUOTE=shel90;845381]My god..what is this world coming to? Hilter and AGBell are back as other people?

Yep, I spend too much time in the CI forums so I am brainwashed with paranoia!

[/quote]

They've been reincarnated!

The Hindus are right!

And, I'm not too sure they haven't been posting on AD!

TFWFalcon · 09-30-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

My god..what is this world coming to? Hilter and AGBell are back as other people?

Yep, I spend too much time in the CI forums so I am brainwashed with paranoia!

I agree with that one as said "For American parents looking for donor sperm to produce blond, blue-eyed Scandinavian babies, the search just got a little trickier." to me more likely Aryan (Hitler's Nazi). PFFFTTT looking for a perfect human.

shel90 · 09-30-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

QUOTE=shel90;845381]My god..what is this world coming to? Hilter and AGBell are back as other people?

Yep, I spend too much time in the CI forums so I am brainwashed with paranoia!

They've been reincarnated!

The Hindus are right!

And, I'm not too sure they haven't been posting on AD![/quote]

OHHH what a SCARY thought!!!!!! Those two people should never ever be reincarnated! *shudders*

jillio · 09-30-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

They've been reincarnated!

The Hindus are right!

And, I'm not too sure they haven't been posting on AD!

OHHH what a SCARY thought!!!!!! Those two people should never ever be reincarnated! *shudders*[/quote]

I knpw! Makes me want to run and hide just thinking about it!

***Jolie77*** · 09-30-2007, 07:59 PM

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The human form of mad cow disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, is mainly transmitted after people eat infected meat. In rare cases, the disease has also been spread by contaminated surgical equipment or in transplants of brain tissue. There has never been a documented case of the Creutzfeldt-Jakob being passed on after a sperm donation.

I think the ban is unnecessary but, my question is, Why would they go ahead with the ban when it has not been formally documented to prove that the sperm can be harmful as it is related to the Mad Cow disease? It's as if they are jumping on the gun without any foundation to structure their theory.

Lil_country_gal · 09-30-2007, 08:50 PM

Wow that's a really intresting ban i wonder if it's even possible

Liebling:-))) · 10-01-2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolie_77

I think the ban is unnecessary but, my question is, Why would they go ahead with the ban when it has not been formally documented to prove that the sperm can be harmful as it is related to the Mad Cow disease? It's as if they are jumping on the gun without any foundation to structure their theory.

Yes I know that's why I laugh so hard after read those article...

Buffalo · 10-03-2007, 01:32 AM

If Hitler is alive today, he would be very proud of the fact that people are seeking blond hair/blue eye babies.

I think I can see how CI implanting in children can be tantamount to Nazism.

Buffalo · 10-03-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jolie_77

I think the ban is unnecessary but, my question is, Why would they go ahead with the ban when it has not been formally documented to prove that the sperm can be harmful as it is related to the Mad Cow disease? It's as if they are jumping on the gun without any foundation to structure their theory.

Better safe than sorry.

R2D2 · 10-03-2007, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo

If Hitler is alive today, he would be very proud of the fact that people are seeking blond hair/blue eye babies.

I think I can see how CI implanting in children can be tantamount to Nazism.

Right....er.....cough! I wonder if my friends who had family members murdered in the holocaust would agree with that...interesting comparison.

Nesmuth · 10-03-2007, 02:40 AM

Fly there and get yourself knocked up. Even the guy will be happy to pay for the roundtrip ticket.

Richard

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 02:54 AM

Well, irregardless, you STILL won't be earning any interest on your deposits over there, either, guys!

shel90 · 10-03-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo

If Hitler is alive today, he would be very proud of the fact that people are seeking blond hair/blue eye babies.

I think I can see how CI implanting in children can be tantamount to Nazism.

If Hilter was alinve today and attempt to use the same practices, he would be thrown in jail right away. I hope we will never have a repeat of that kind of regime. *shudders*

Liebling:-))) · 10-03-2007, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo

If Hitler is alive today, he would be very proud of the fact that people are seeking blond hair/blue eye babies.

Yes, it´s true.

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I think I can see how CI implanting in children can be tantamount to Nazism.

Well, I guess if Hilter is alive today then I would of not be here.

shel90 · 10-03-2007, 07:04 AM

[quote=Liebling:-)));846861]

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Yes, it´s true.

Well, I guess if Hilter is alive today then I would of not be here.

Speaking of AG Bell and Hilter being mentioned in one article..I found this. Very interesting...

Kalalau's Korner: As KKK is to White Supremacy, So is AGB to Hearing Supremacy

"Those who believe as I do, that

the production of a defective race

of human beings would be

a great calamity to the world,

will examine carefully the causes

that lead to the intermarriage

of the deaf with the object

of applying a remedy ."

- Alexander Graham Bell

Whereas the Ku Klux Klan’s (KKK’s) long history of violence grew out of the resentment and hatred many white Southerners felt toward Blacks, the Alexander Graham Bell (AGB) folks had recently launched the complete intolerance of deafness and the resentment of sign languages of all the Deaf. Alexander Graham Bell called Deaf people "a defective race of human beings," and he began a racism--a hate crime.

We the Deaf are now faced with a new struggle against widespread linguistic racism. The menace of AGB folks is now peaking, and they are collecting supporters from people, especially those with cochlear implants, in expropriating the Deaf babies from sign language and distributing “hearing supremacy.” It is better to hear than to be Deaf.

Today it seems incredible that an organization so bigot, so opposed to the American principles of justice and equality, could be regarded such respect. How did the AGB as one of the nation’s prejudice groups so instantly sized the world of medicine and education?

American Sign Language (ASL) is all around us. ASL classes are more demanding than ever before. More and more Americans are learning ASL. But many folks learn, often through AGB, to be intimidated by the world of sounds; they fear ASL is encrypted in a secret code they never got access to.

AGB is a hate group; they hate that Deaf babies do not hear. They hate that we use ASL. They hate to be asked about ASL, too! I hope this blog, “As KKK is to White Supremacy, so is AGB to Hearing Supremacy,” dispels the false notion that there is a society of hearing people who have a hold on the “right” way to hear, to speak, to live, and to make meanings. AGB must be stopped!

At 11:29 AM, JABParis said...
Carl,

Well said! You got it exactly right that AGB advocate to eradicate ASL and I am adding Deaf. I am surprised that Deaf and HOH AGB members are supporting this concept as if AGB is to destroy their Deaf members and supporters just like KKK wanted to destroy other races as well as Deaf people. This is what many other oralist supporters as well as Moogs who wanted to destroy ASL and Deaf people.

This is a good way to use media to educate the public. It is like we are going back to Nazi and KKK period all over again. What are they trying to do to us? Are they afraid that we are as equal as they (hearing people) are?

Judy

At 6:04 PM, Jean Boutcher said...
Not only AGB. There are elitists, influenced by Aristotle, Plato, Hitler, and others who want to dwell in a utopia with "perfect" people. Aristotle told the Greek government to dump deaf people in the forest. Even in the 21st century (2001), North Korea's president Kim Jong II transports deaf people to the remotest villages and lets them starve to death.

They feel that deaf people are a burden to the government in general and taxpayers in particular. See utopism in Plato's "Republic". Again, Nietzsche's "Thus Spake Zarathusthra" (Aryanism in ancient Iran (Persia).

Why?

Simply put: they have no SENSO COMUNE! They do not know that deaf people are educable! Alas!

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jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,814	Ype, and if you don't get a blonde blue eyed baby, you just bleach their hair and have permanent colored contacts stitched into their eyes so you get what you want! Sorry....guess I spend too much time in the CI forums!

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jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,814	QUOTE=shel90;845381]My god..what is this world coming to? Hilter and AGBell are back as other people? Yep, I spend too much time in the CI forums so I am brainwashed with paranoia! [/quote] They've been reincarnated! The Hindus are right! And, I'm not too sure they haven't been posting on AD!

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Nesmuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Southland of California Posts: 3,199	Fly there and get yourself knocked up. Even the guy will be happy to pay for the roundtrip ticket. Richard

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,849	Well, irregardless, you STILL won't be earning any interest on your deposits over there, either, guys!