Fly Free

Further reading: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...79.htm&sc=1110

i think the parents did the RIGHT thing to do this -- set up tent in front of the house and etc just to get thru to the kids -- i wonder how long would the kids stand it before they give up and make agreements with their parents

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wooohooo for mom and dad


I did went on strike for a week few years ago!

Kids and husband and bro in law gulps up! and they cleaned up.. sometime it work sometime it doesn't work

Now.. kids wants go to boys and girls club after school. they have to do their chores daily and homework pass if not then they miss their day nextday.. they dislike our new rules... *tuff*


Wendy

harleymn

TO CALL NANNY 911 , DONT YOU THINK HUH LIKE THE ONES ON TV

ravensteve1961

Thats against the law! Home alone law. 7 years ago a couple in florida were arrested at the airport leaving their 3 children home alone while vacationing in vegas. Police are very seroius enforcing anti home alone laws. Police officers might place parents under arrest with warrents on anti home alone laws.

DeafSCUBA98

remmy the parents is in front yard of the home...


I agree with this strike 50/50...

reason i disagree with this strike is.. not feeding the kids.. which is somewhat child abuse for not feeding ur own children
i agree with that strike.. making the kids learn their lesson about their responsibility when they move out on their own. but god.. what if that doesn't work and there are ants, snakes, bugs, mice all over the house damage everything?

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Liebling:-)))

Please re-read Flyfree's post.

The parents didn't leave their children. They set the domed tent in their front driveway.. It means that they stay nearst their children.



Back to topic:

I often heard about this before. I think it's good for the children to learn the lesson BUT it doesn't help sometimes. It depends on different humans who can learn their lesson or not.

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ravensteve1961

But by not supervising them leaving in their home is somewhate against the law. Suppose the police officers came over their house and warn them theyre breaking the law and just issue them a citation. Will they end the strike and pay the fine? or will they fight the fine and tell the judge its part of tough love?

Cheri

You do not understand this news do you? Maybe be careful reading it and then post. Think before you post ok?


Now back on topic: I agree with what the Mother did, Those children should learn to do chores that is how they learn on their own when they are adults living on their own somedays.

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Fly Free

most laws says that kids at age 12 and up can be left home alone and Liebling is right -- the article DOES say that the parents are camped out in their front yard not at hotel or anywhere else -- theyre RIGHT there on their front yard!

how can it be "child abuse" if the kids are already OLD enuf to nuke up their own food qq theyre 17 and 12 respectively -- they know how to feed themselves at that age and they have that wonderful kitchen gadget called the microwave -- easy enuf for a kid to use at age 12

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Gemtun

The parents are THERE. The kids are old enough to be left alone in the house while the parents are somewhere on the property.

It is not called child abuse if parents wont cook for the kids..the kids are 12 and 17. They are way old enough to make their own

Read carefully next time, dude

I totally agree with this idea...doing tough love is essential if nothing else works

Angel

LOL

I know how those parents feel, but for myself, I'm not going to do that even if it teach my children to clean up after themselves, I tell them either clean up your mess or you won't be playing out with their friends....and sometimes it works but if I have to often remind them, they know they will be grounded...

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harleymn

Or take his car away for a week, or ground him from going to thier fav sports or video games things like that, when i wouldnt take the trash or rake the leaves then mom or dad would ground me and my brother and our favorite was going ride our motorcross bikes. they sure got our attention so we hurried up and get it done so we could ride our mtorcross bikes . I agree with Angel becuz if it doesnt work camping on the driveway they still acting so then what.same thing over and over. You have to find ways to get thier attention, not the lazy ways. What do you think guys and gals . ohohoh merry christmas everyone.

ravensteve1961

You wanna make kids do their part? Heres what i do. I punish the kids in their rooms or in a seperate room locked in until they can all agree what jobs theyre agreed to it together" like a jury system" If one says no they stay in that room until they all agree. Like a jury system. They stay in there all day until they made their desision. And when they all agreed together what chores they do jobs around the house. Then they sign a contract with there parents. Now if any rules are volated all the kids will suffer together and the parents will decide what punishment they will all suffer when one of them screws up. Like they do it in the army. If one soldier screws up the whole platoon suffers. Now thats a whole lot better than going on strike and living in a tent.

Oceanbreeze

Umm ... The whole PURPOSE of the strike was due to the fact that the kids didn't give a crap about responsibilty or empathy, so your way of handling this wouldn't work! You could put those kids in their rooms for a year, and you wouldn't make a dent in trying to teach them anything. Because, the kids simply DID NOT and DO NOT care!

Nice try, Steve.

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Malfoyish

I am wondering here, ravensteve - do you have children?

I do. Three.

I happen to think that parents going on strike might not be a complete waste of time. Granted, the parents may not be busting their asses 24/7 for the unappreciative little terrors, but a good parent will always, and I mean ALWAYS supervise somewhat what is going on in the home. Even if the parents are sitting on the couch or in a tent on the front driveway, the kids would be "taught a lesson" if it only means they run out of clothes to wear or get hungry. If they run out of clothing, they'll put on dirty ones. If they get hungry, they'll snack on whatever they can find. Eventually though, they'll start to smell like shit, experience a severe diaper rash from not showering, and develop stomachaches from the shit they've been eating.

THEN, they can go to their parents and say, "All right, point taken, Mom and Dad...thank you for everything that you do and we understand what a tough job you guys have in raising us." That, of course, may be a long shot knowing how kids are these days - but a simple thank-you would do.

Good parents would never willingly put their kids in any sort of danger. If it's being done in a neglectful manner, then yes there is a problem, but if the parent is supervising the whole "strike" operation, then I see nothing wrong with teaching the little ones a lesson in whichever way they see fit.

Angel

Ravensteve,

*ahem*...

Rasing children is not the same thing as joining the army and another thing you do not lock your children in a room for any reason whatsoever, if anyone has caught you do such a thing, u will be charge for child neglect....

When you raise your children you teach them about responsibility to clean up after themselves and etc, you don't scream, swear, force or whatever the hell the army people does, are not the same thing as rasing your children, YOU raise your children by giving them love and attention AND raising your children like an bunch of soliders isn't gonna to help one bit!

I suppose every parents raise their child in a different way but to me its child abuse....

*sigh*

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ravensteve1961

Malfoyish and angel. Its not child abuse. Its psychology. By making kids going to a room like a jury deliberation is making them to decide as a group to which job theyre gonna do together. And by handling punishment like in the army will put it in their heads if i do something stupid others will get angry at me. I when they all agree to do their chores i gurantee you kids will get along and do their jobs. Look at a little league baseball team. Now what happens one player makes a mistake in the game? They all pick on him dont they? Thats what gonna happen if one kid makes a mistake by not doing his chores. They gonna all be punished for it even them two didnt do a thing and theyre gonna pick on him all because he didnt do his job. Try it youll be suprised how well theyre do their chores and it works.I done this to my nephews and my brother and my sister in law never seen their kids behaved so much after they got home from hawaii. But 2 weeks passed they were little brats again and my brother called me and asked me how did i make em behave? His kids begged my brother not to let me come back. So i told him he used my methods and boy they all hate their dad now.

Malfoyish

I said nothing at ALL about child abuse, ravensteve. NOTHING. I simply say that the parents who are on strike, as long as they are "secretly" supervising their children, whether the kids know it or not, just might be onto something in their methods. They are entitled to exercise any form of "training" they desire, too - as long as it is not neglectful to the child(ren) or puts them in any jeopardy. No one here has the authority to tell these parents how to prove their own point to their own kids. I don't think there's any harm in what they are doing, though.

Anyway, you have your opinion, we have ours. You are more than welcome to test your theory out on your kids or nieces or nephews, too. I'm sure they'll appreciate much of what you have to teach them, too.

SpiceHD

i think they have been keep tabs on food and stock it up in secretly i mean i do not think they would starve their own kids and 17 years old can cook... but it is embarassement enough for kids i mean not to be responsible in front of parents is okay but in whole school... boy ... they will definitely think twice next time

ravensteve1961

Ok,,Suppose a kid cause a fire in the kitchen huh? There are things you have to know about cooking. Thats what MOMS! are for! And Daughters are for helping moms drying the dishes after mom cleans them. And sons take out the garbage and go upstairs do their homework.

Fly Free

Steve -- and thats the point of THIS article i had posted at the beginning -- the kids were NOT helping the mom OR dad in or around the house!!! thats the reason why the parents went on strike cuz they have tried every other avenue available and/or have thought of to no avail so this being their last resort and the kids ARE old enuf to feed themselves and know how to use the nuker -- theres food in the kitchen and etc -- if they run out of tv dinners they can find other food to eat -- if they dont like it then they can go up to their local fast food joint and pick up their own food

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It is not a "kid" 17 yrs old is a "teen" How would they learn to cook? If someday they get married.. They would need to learn to cook for their husband right? I am sure a 17 yrs old can manage in the kitchen without start a fire. Ravesteven, You have no children of you own, and you have a lot to learn. We have children of our own and we know responsible and I know those parent who are on strike know their responsible too. And about doing chores, It does not require what each child have to do, Whatever the parent decide for them it their business not yours. When you have children of your own then it would be ur business whatever you want your child to do.

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Oceanbreeze

Your facts don't stack up against your argument, and you're also missing the point! The kids in question here are ages twelve and seventeen. A twelve year old should be old enough to make themselves a sandwich if they are hungry, and a seventeen year old is certainly old enough to make dinner for the two of them! I HIGHLY DOUBT these kids will be starting any fires unless they do so deliberately!

That's if they are willing to get off their lazy duffs and do something for themselves! The whole point to the strike to begin with, is because the kids are lazy, and the parents want to teach the kids some responsibility. Please go check your facts before you give an opinion.

Thank you.

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eternity

The news did not say parents are leaving them as home alone also their kids are old enough to be home alone. Kit is 12 and older brother is 17.

You are hilarious. Why do you have to say *suppose a kid cause a fire in the kitchen huh?* The topic is not about what would happen. Speak of kids who are rebelled and refused to do their chores. What do parents have choice? Have their kids to move out of their home ... to see if it helps them to teach them a lesson by respect and cooperate with their parent.

ravensteve1961

Gee,I wonder what rush limbaugh thinks about this?

Malfoyish

Write him a lengthy letter and ask him.

Cheri

ROFLMAO!

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ravensteve1961

I just saw the parents on strike on the jimmy kimmel live. And theyre being contacted by talent agents. Are they gonna get rich quick off thise scheme? I have a feeling theres no real strike going on. Its just another way people trying to become celebrites and become rich & famous. Belive you me i been trying to get on the news i failed 3 times. My first time there was a baltimore news crew down hunt valley mall in space port which is a video game arcade and there was a reporter from WJZ TV 13 NEWS and the reporter came ask me what your name? i said steve? how old are you steve i said 19. Have you ever been addicted to alcohol or drugs? Then i said no. The reporter said well think you very much steve nice talking to ya. Well i watched the news they were trying find kids who are addicted to alcohol or drugs or both. And some teens desribed what they were taking and what type of alcohol they were drinking my mistake was(( NEVER BE HONEST ON TV ) I learned that by watching archie bunker trying to convince edith to lie on a TV commerical by picking the advertisement laundry product even she likes the other leading brand.Edith belives in the bible thou shal not lie. Archie trying to convince her we need the money. They would pay her $5,000 to do that commerical. Archie says i think god would think its ok to lie on television. Why you think the democratic convention get such high ratings? So there i should have lied to the reporter and said YES i was drinking and taking PCP. Second oppitunity i failed I was at memorial stadium on opening day WMAR TV 2 Reporter Tony Pagnogtti was interviewing red sox fans and i was in orioles gear he talked to red sox fans asking them who you think gonna win the game they all said red sox of course and they were from boston, Then he talked to red sox fan right next to me i thought he was gonna get an opinon from an orioles fan but he said Back to you keith. I was suckered out again!! Then the last time to get on televison i went up to a pepsi taste challenge drank pepsi but the first time i picked coke. I said opps can we do this again? then i said this one pepsi. I watched every commerical NOT ONCED i got to be on TV. What do i have to do to get on TV? Shoot the president and i can plea insanity and spend 20 years in the mental hospital just to become a celebrity and i get to be on CBS,NBC,ABC,,CNN or FOX NEWS? I got news for ya. When john hinkley gets out hes gonna be contacted by hollywood and become a tv actor and jodie foster is gonna marry him to grant his wish. Just like Joey Buttafuoco was in the movies after he had sex with a 16 year old girl and promised to marry her if she can kill his wife.Joey Buttafuoco serve 6 months in jail for rape of a minor. And hollywood gave him an acting job he played in Movie #1 Movie #2
And he was in 6 porn movies and poked famous porn actreses like ginger lynn,seka,Traci Lords and even Solange Lecarrio who played amy fisher and told his side of the story and actuly did all kinds of sexaul positions.So what do i have to do just to get on television?

Angel

*scratching my head*

and what's your point Ravensteve and how is this related to this topic here?...

I admit you DO make me laugh when you go off the topic , and have no clue what the heck you're talking about

*taking a couple of asprin*...

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ravensteve1961

Its all a hoax. Those parents are trying to make money off an idea to fool the media theyre going on strike. And guess what,The kids are laughing cause they know it. Their dad is a genus he probily thought of this an quick scam to make a qiuck buck.If you actuly belive this crap you would also belive that wrestling is real too. He said he hasnt taken a shower in days which is true what you think his boss gonna say when he comes to work in inapproreate hygene? Hes gonna get fired. You really think he cares about his job? He knows it hes gonna make millions when the act says kids have made up and came down and agreed to their parents demand.Oh so much for a happy ending. Well real life just doesnt work that way. In reality when a real union goes on strike they get what they want ALWAYS! Just like the baseball strike the MLBPA got what they wanted 2 years ago no salary cap. Like the NHLPA will get what they want NO SALARY CAP. This will be a longer strike than the parents strike and im gonna come right back here and say...SEE I TOLD YOU SO. Just like john hinkley shot the president for,So he can become an instant celebrity and make millions when he gets out. And then jodie foster will marry him. Just like joey buttafuoco made his millions by putting that innocent girl to prison who she shot his wife so he can make millions by making movies in hollywood. I tried to get on TV like that 3 times i failed. If everyone was that smart what those parents pulled off that publicy stunt we all would be making big bucks by now.