Cheri

Ravensteven,


You want my honest opinion here? When people are going to look in AllDeaf and go through this page they are only going to be laughing at your post here.. You think too much what is going on in the brains of yours. Just stick with the topic and what the news stated and respond and then zip it up? That my best advice for you dude.


*asking ^Angel^ for a whole bottle of aspirin*

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Liza

LMAO @ Angel & Cheri about aspirins (pssst, I skipped reading you-know-whose posts) Sometimes some posts are not just worth reading.... LOL... agreed?

I dont have my own kids... but it sounds like those kids really needed to be taught a lesson, and besides the parents tried many things with them that didn't work. Definitely sounds like they truly care about them to suffer living outside, and be in the news. I hope those kids grow up soon, and quit giving their dear parents grey hairs. LOL

Oceanbreeze

*Asks Cheri to please pass me the asprin now*
It would seem to me that your point of view is undetermined. Everytime someone challeges a point Steve, you jump to something totally unrelated to what this topic is about. This thread was orginally about two parents who got tired of dealing with their two nearly adult and or/ teenage children not taking their responsibilities seriously. That's what this was about, Steve. Nothing else.

So, you're opinions, while valid, really don't hold water.

I've basically stated the same thing at least three times now, so I'm done with this thread now, and I'm offering the bottle of aspirin to the next taker.

***Passing the asprin on to the next person***

I'm out.

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Oceanbreeze

Before I leave the thread...

I think Rush Limbaugh has too much on his mind right now to care. He's too busy trying to get his backside out of some serious hot water with the authorities over that nasty little drug habit of his.

I would'nt go looking to Rush to give an opinion on this anytime soon.

Okay, now I'm gone.

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ravensteve1961

For those who did watch jimmy kimmel live last night heres the quotes the parents said. "" Oh we been contacted mostly around the world" Like BBC,Spanish News was talking to us,CBC, Mexico some european network news was talking to us too.And jimmy said not to mention you were on good morning america and i also hear you having movie or tv deals comming at you. Parents mom said,, And we had several offers from hollywood possibily making a TV movie deal about us, We even had offers from TBS, MTV ,HBO And MGM Studios contacted us as well. What does that spell? Ill even add a little math you figure it out M+O+N+E +Y = MILLIONS . Right its not about the strike ITS ABOUT MONEY! You ever wonder why people run to lawyers and sue everybody. Because people see this kind if crap on TV and if they cant do it they sue! Cause TV influance people. I want yall read the lyrics frank zappa song ( IM THE SLIME) This song is the truth about you TV.

I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime
From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks . . .
Don't touch that dial
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

And thats the truth! TV is influancing people. Every watch TV shows like Dallas,Dynasty,Falcon crest and Flamingo road? And you see all them people driving rich fansy cars living in great big giant mansons wearing all that glitter on the clothes. Doest that tell you something? You wanna get rich too! Thats why people are finding every oppitunity to make millions People like Joey Buttafuoco,John Hinkley and people running to lawyers to sue a company And now these parents on strike cant wait to cash it in! TV is is influancing people. And i one of those who wanna GET RICH TOO!! And i cant get on TV like that genus parents are doing. Its all a media publicy stunt its a way to make a fast quick buck without even investing or working for it like the hard way.

Y

raven, guess what i just watched TV
"Mary had a little lamb and
she was eating a soup where
there was a spider crawling down"

Hmm, Hope this is still on or off topic here ?

:-)

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Fly Free

Ravensteve keep going off this thread is NOT discussing abt how to get on TV

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Ok I was showing this to my neighbor here...
My neighbor said that he understood what
raven was trying to making another point and
to explain about the parents using the
"media control/influence people"
(I try to abbreviate this anyway)

Thats all for now...
Have a Good Day...

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ravensteve1961

See Y knows. People should ignore this story cause its all a publicy stunt. These parents are not doing to shape up their kids. Its all about fame & fortune. Like all you democratic ex polictians are doing book sales its a way to get more wealth. Boy i like to have wealth too ya know. So how bout yall giving me $100 and you can make me get rich too!

Angel

Raven,

I understand what you're trying to say about parents being in the newspaper and on TV just trying to get the attention, money, or whatever if that the case then fine, can we please move on?...

*grins*

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ravensteve1961

Sure thing angel.
* smiles*

Mommyof3

I disagree with you about Daughters are for helping moms drying the dishes after mom cleans them. And sons take out the garbage and go upstairs do their homework.

It is not have to be only Mom and Daughter to clean dishes all the time. Sons take out of the garbage all the time. No way.. It will be always take turn to do their chores. It is not like 1950s that Mom have to do all work in house and Husband go out to work and bring money to put on Table. It is change today as they put on share 50/50. That s what i want to Teach my kids to watch us to learn take turn, do our chores, help each other, and ask for help. So that s how my dd learned and always ask me for help to clean so i let her like put away Towels in Bathroom. My ds always pick up dirty clothes in hamper or dirty diaper to throw out of trash. I feel more happy and good to see both of kids help out. Also my honey sometime ask my kids to put away or ask nice to pick it up as they know their chores and rules.
My point to parent:
They should teach kids younger to learn how to do chores, help out, rules, allowance with money or fun, and share. So they will become habit to know same "rules" everyday as grow up. If they didn't teach them until later their kids are much older. it will be more harder to teach them to help out as they will ingore and already habit to be "nothing to do" in house. But hopefully one day, Parent can teach them to responsible to keep clean, chores, take care of, and make look like "home" than "homewrecker" when they turn over 18 and on their own apartment.


It is happened to my friend's daughter who refuse to do house chores, help her mom out, respect without cussing, and share with communication. Poor thing that she is only 14 yrs old already as very stubborn girl. As they still struggling relationship between mom and daughter for now 3 years. I learned from my friend's daughter alot lately and knew that i don't want my kids to be like her daughter's ways. It is already much worse for her daughter but pray that she will change her own ways in one day but Who know?
Mommyof3

Mommyof3

Ravensteve,
Read carefully what Cat (mom) told sheriff's deputies that checked up on the family three times Tuesday. They were satisfied that the children were safe.

Mean Cat is not Neglect Mother to 2 boys cuz At Least, She did checked to make sure they are O k.
I agree with Mom and Dad to do right job. They need Respect their mother who just had Oral Surgery and need Rest. So boys need help out like trash, cook, or comfort mom.


The tipping point may have been when Benjamin didn't offer to help his sweating, struggling mother work on the lawn Sunday, even though she should have been recovering from oral surgery.
So That is Benjamin s fault to not listen and help his mom to do Lawn grass. If he might willing to do lawn grass and earn money to buy possible games or Gameroom in Mall. Think about it.


The Barnards have slept on air mattresses in the tent and have barbecued while their children fended for themselves with frozen TV dinners. The parents only go inside to shower and use the bathroom.
At least they bought plenty of tv dinners for boys. They can toss in Micowave to heat it up. They need to learn how to survival and feed themselves when they turn 18 yrs old and live their own place. So they can get an idea what is like to live in Apartment on their own. It is not easy to live on their own apartment, pay bills, buy foods to eat, and take care of cleaning in apartment without embrassing messy or smelling.

Also they are very close to house which they are on their Yard front of house. So they are not "Run away" or "Forget them" to go anywhere distance from the house. That is no againist laws with child neglect.

Child Alone are allowed in States Law which children can live alone over 12 or 13 years old in the house. They do have class to teach children how to live alone, what to do if something happen, and many things from schools, religious institutions, libraries, recreational and community centers, and local youth organizations to create programs that give younger children a place to go and something to do after school -- a homework "haven", with sports, crafts, classes, and tutoring.
Join your Neighborhood Watch group and form a program that offers help to children in cases of emergencies or frightening situations.

So now you know about it, ravensteve1961.
Mommyof3

Liebling:-)))

Exactly!!!!!

My 11 years old son know how to make sandwiches, bake the pizza, fry the eggs eg. He made one for his 8 years old brother.

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Liebling:-)))

It´s same with me too.

My 1st son is a chaotically person. He took his shoes and jacket off and leave it untidy in cloakroom and also his bedroom, too. He took his clothes off and leave them everywhere in his bedroom, also music CD and books too.

I told my son:
When will you tidy things away in your bedroom? Because I want to clean your bedroom. All is what he said: "later" then go off to meet his friends. I told him to not go out until he tidy his things first then......... He´s grumply!

It´s the same with playground in the basement. I told my sons to tidy their things away. They would not watch TV or play the computer until they tidy their rooms or playground room in the basement.

I alway remind them to do with their rooms and playground room in the basement. They are grumply...

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Liebling:-)))

***sigh***

Are you married and father?

What you do with your children is against children protection law. You will be in trouble when they find out what you treat your children like this.

The children will learn to respect your rules when you show them with your patience and attention. All what you has to is sit and have a good talk with your children instead of punishment and treat them as "criminal". It would not work when you punish your children like this. They will disrespect you more and more.

My children respect me more than my husband because I am patience with them.

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Liebling:-)))

Remember:

The children are not soliders. What you did with your children show no love and attention.

Remember that the children are small humans that they need to learn from their parents how to go right path.

That´s parent´s educate job to give their children right way.

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Liebling:-)))

Exactly!!!

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Liebling:-)))

Oh dear, it´s tooooo exaggeration thread. I suggest you to create a new thread, Ravensteve!

This thread, Flyfree create is different than your posts here.

*Give me the asprin please, Angel*


I read all of your posts here and sound that you are not married and not have children, Ravensteve. Right?

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Liebling:-)))

Yes, you are right, Mummyof3!

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ravensteve1961

WHAT??? Theyre not? Well maybe you could explain this?

downing

I have been reading the whole thread. I agree with all mommies here. I feel ravensteven is little too much policitical incorrect here. Sorry, no offense.

I agree with parents camping out on yard on strike to teach kids a lesson, no harm done. Do you have kids yourself? Probably not. Sounds like you were raised by a family member that thinks like military and did not give you affection/love. You probably wanted to use the same influcence on your own kids or sibilings??

My dad was in military, he never used his tactics to raise me like his platoon. He taught me love, affection, along with dispclines with a lot of respect even for the elders. I think this thread may have gone little overboard here.

harleymn

Ravensteve is not saying military Hes trying to be funny. And also if you go on a strike against the kids,they will get used to the fact over and over. So should they (parents) camp out on the front drive way over and over and (kids) get used to it ,no offense.Then what. ? I'am concerned.

MilitaryGirl83

RME at you Ravesteven, my dad was an military guy but he never used that method on me and my younger brother David.. and for two, i agree that the kids should grow up and learn how to clean, do the chores and make dinner themselves!

You always go offtopic so stop it!

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Steel X

if you can really think hard of what she's trying to say, then you got the answer.

Steel X

so...you are saying mothers have to take care of everything that a kid cause a mess to do and not the father?

okey dokey... :sure:

Steel X

Homer Simpson: "D'OH!"

Steel X

yep..sounds more like a dicator than an uncle.