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Unread 06-01-2012, 02:18 AM   #121 (permalink)
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How can government be responsible? Government doesn't have money. The only money government has access to is the money it takes from people. So, basically you are saying other people should be required to pay for your health care.
huh? no. we all are taking care of each other. it's less costly that way. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Unread 06-01-2012, 02:25 AM   #122 (permalink)
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huh? no. we all are taking care of each other. it's less costly that way. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I have a number of problems with it....when it's forced. Thus, politics.
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From taxpayers, shares, bonds, monthly premium, money from commodities, etc to funding on healthcare.
So, like i said..... taking from others.
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I have a number of problems with it....when it's forced. Thus, politics.
then that's for another thread. in here... it's about outrageous cost of medical care.
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So, like i said..... taking from others.
can I safely assume that you must have taken numbers of ways in order to reduce as much taxes as you can when when paying up to Uncle Sam?
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Unread 06-01-2012, 02:29 AM   #126 (permalink)
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then that's for another thread. in here... it's about outrageous cost of medical care.
You should probably leave obamacare out of it then....well unless you want it to get political again
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can I safely assume that you must have taken numbers of ways in order to reduce as much taxes as you can when when paying up to Uncle Sam?
I thought you just said this thread was about the high cost of medical care....
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You should probably leave obamacare out of it then....well unless you want it to get political again
PPACA is a very broad subject. In this thread, it's about cost of medical care. Under PPACA, it would be cheaper.

You, on the other hand, chose to politicize it like "stealing from people".
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I thought you just said this thread was about the high cost of medical care....
yes and I'm looking at your reasoning and strong detest - forced. taking from others.

I'm following up on it to understand more by asking you a question. Most of taxes owed to government are relating to helping each other out such as social security, medicaid/medicare, etc.

so.... can I safely assume that you must have taken numbers of ways in order to reduce as much taxes as you can when when paying up to Uncle Sam?
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So, like i said..... taking from others.
It looks like you don't care about healthcare.

I'm starting hate my life due to health problems and make more difficult to keep up with jobs, even I'm closer to getting fired due to numerous absences. I'm not happy with capitalism based healthcare and already suffered from that.
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PPACA is a very broad subject. In this thread, it's about cost of medical care. Under PPACA, it would be cheaper.

You, on the other hand, chose to politicize it like "stealing from people".
Again, those costs are disputed. I believe costs will increase. Just IMHO
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yes and I'm looking at your reasoning and strong detest - forced. taking from others.

I'm following up on it to understand more by asking you a question. Most of taxes owed to government are relating to helping each other out such as social security, medicaid/medicare, etc.

so.... can I safely assume that you must have taken numbers of ways in order to reduce as much taxes as you can when when paying up to Uncle Sam?
One would have to be insane to pay more taxes than they are required to.
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It looks like you don't care about healthcare.
That would be incorrect.
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Again, those costs are disputed. I believe costs will increase. Just IMHO
oh ok. we can agree to disagree on that then
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can I safely assume that you must have taken numbers of ways in order to reduce as much taxes as you can when when paying up to Uncle Sam?
It seems like he is hypocrite because he doesn't like people to be on welfare program because of unable to work or keep up with job due to health problems. If he wants to put people back to work so we should improve the healthcare.

The welfare program, especially SSDI isn't about deafness but got approved because of health problems and other disabilities that prevented me from ability to keep up with job.
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One would have to be insane to pay more taxes than they are required to.
well that's what tax refund is for but that's not what I asked.

I'll rephrase - do you take numbers of steps to reduce as much as you can to pay less than required/usual amount such as tax incentives, loophole, tax write-off etc?
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That would be incorrect.
No, you don't because you are doing nothing with healthcare.

If you care so you should support to improve the healthcare but... You don't, except for true free market based healthcare reform and helpless conservatives, that's obviously nothing to help with patients who suffered from health problems.

You left my paragraph out about my health problems so it means you don't care.
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oh ok. we can agree to disagree on that then
I reckon so.
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It seems like he is hypocrite because he doesn't like people to be on welfare program because of unable to work or keep up with job due to health problems. If he wants to put people back to work so we should improve the healthcare.

The welfare program, especially SSDI isn't about deafness but got approved because of health problems and other disabilities that prevented me from ability to keep up with job.
Not my responsibility....sorry
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I reckon so.
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No, you don't because you are doing nothing with healthcare.

If you care so you should support to improve the healthcare but... You don't, except for true free market based healthcare reform and helpless conservatives, that's obviously nothing to help with patients who suffered from health problems.

You left my paragraph out about my health problems so it means you don't care.
You are incorrect again.
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You are incorrect again.
this post contradicts your response.
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Not my responsibility....sorry
It's all about word game to you. "It's not that I don't care. It's just that it's not my responsibility, not my problem."
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well that's what tax refund is for but that's not what I asked.

I'll rephrase - do you take numbers of steps to reduce as much as you can to pay less than required/usual amount such as tax incentives, loophole, tax write-off etc?
No,tax refunds are for people who overpaid in the first place. Again, it would be silly for someone to pay more than they are required to. Quite simple.
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No,tax refunds are for people who overpaid in the first place.
there you go. Paying more than required to is refunded back to you.

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Again, it would be silly for someone to pay more than they are required to. Quite simple.
please do elaborate more on that. tax incentives? loopholes? tax write-off?
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Exactly....at least not in the legal sense...
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Exactly....at least not in the legal sense...
there you go. it's an euphemism to "I don't care" but of course..... you naturally disagree so we'll just leave it at that.
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Not my responsibility....sorry
Good for you so don't whine at people who rely on welfare program because of unable to work due to health problems.
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You are incorrect again.
No doubt about you are playing game with us.

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there you go. Paying more than required to is refunded back to you.


please do elaborate more on that. tax incentives? loopholes? tax write-off?
No need to elaborate.... No one should pay more than they are required.....unless they just like throwing money away.
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Good for you so don't whine at people who rely on welfare program because of unable to work due to health problems.
Absolutely I will. Our welfare program is tremendously flawed.
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